Why Fire 4th Book of Nuke Does Low Damage

umutdem · Post by **umutdem** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:00 pm

I have 79 lvl s*s nuker. 2nd and 3rd books make 11-12k dmg but the 4th book makes 6-8k it is meaningless. That damage is not high as written on skill.

iBilly · Post by **iBilly** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:18 am

Fast casting speed.

umutdem · Post by **umutdem** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:40 am

thx for explanation but i mean something different. At same lvl 2nd book of fire nuke makes 666-1109 %300 dmg. 4th book 687-1145 %263 dmg. So, in practical they should make almost same dmg but the 4th book makes %30-40 less dmg. I m asking that.

Post by **Stress** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:55 am

It comes down to the procentages. The base damage is the same, but here's why bk4 is lower damaging.

This is the damage formula I got from Fly. This is the version for a pure Magical attack.
I don't know if it's correct, but the mag. reinforce has been left out for one reason or another. For a physical attack, replace the magical skill % and magical balance with the physical counterparts.

(mag balance * 100 %) + (magical skill % * magical balance). Given the numbers of bk2 and bk4 are pretty much equal, i've left them out of the equation for a better analisys of it and comparison.

You get a constant value for the mag. balance and the skill damage itself.

Well, there's a bit of Attack ratio/Parri ratio involved, but indeed, by substracting the procentages, you get that book 4 should theoretically do about 37% average less damage.

Glavie's Girl · Post by **Glavie's Girl** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:26 pm

With the other books that do aoe/status effects why would you use the first and fourth books? Most nukers use lion shout right?

Atsuten · Post by **Atsuten** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:22 pm

Although I grudgingly excuse JM's incorrect use of %, I cannot excuse its use in a mathematical formula.

% means that whatever number preceeds it, move the decimal two places to the right. i.e. 100% = 1, 57%=0.57

The formula you posted is actually just:
mag. bal. + (mag. skill% * mag. bal.)

If you follow JM's example, then 100% = 200 or 2

(i.e. Moving March 1 gives 20% run speed, but it should say 120%, since 20% would be an 80% reduction in run speed)

Post by **Stress** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:31 pm

Yes I understand. But joymax sais: Moving speed increase by 20%, not applying the procentage of 20 to the moving speed itself.

Atsuten · Post by **Atsuten** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:33 pm

So how do i use 100% in your formula?