[GUIDE]: HYBRIDS: An Alternative Build (updated 9/25/06)

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ayumikagari wrote:2:1?

what is that mean?

caz each lvl has 5 points..so 2:1 means 4 points for str and one poins of int?


you have 3 points out of the 5 you can distribute yourself, 2:1 means that you put 2 into STR and 1 into INT (3:2 in total if you prefer ) :D


Tatianasaphira wrote:Right now, what I want to do is kill things fast.

The fastest killer in this game are pure int nukers, so why not try a 2:1INT hybrid. like SuicideGrl was 1:1 till 30 and 2:1 later on you could do the same, spend all points into int and you should have 1:1 at 30 and then go 2int:1str, the problem is that you are sword/shield youo deal less damage but you get more defense, my guild mate is in his 40s now and 2:1 int hybrid and he is happy with his char, killing mobs with 2-3 skills most of the time


Tatianasaphira wrote:Doing only 30's normally to Devil Horses is not fun. With Lightning dmg I do only 60's and 70's. Now I am using the chain sword item, and its lvl 6 now, so its attack I get upwards of 300.

Tanking right now, I don't care about, as I lvl alone. I use Magic every hit, because without it, I only hit for 30's on the horses and the ghosts (stupid 200 flags)

as a hybrid you should always use both phy and mag. skills to dish out the max damage. I always use my spear skill and imbues together, the problem is to keep your balance high enough, for that matter I'm not experienced enough and would like to hear SuicideGrl's comment on this

Tatianasaphira wrote:As for str, that was because I didn't know what I was doing, and noone would tell me, so I pumped up whatever I could to make me hit harder. Now that I am using magic far more, I am trying to pump int more with each lvl, however now that it is so hard to lvl, and I really feel that int gap

As i said above an INT based hybrid would be more suited to your style of playing...
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So, should I toss Sword stuff and switch to bow? Or go Glaive/Spear
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for int hybrids go either sword or spear, sword is more defensive thanks to the shield and a little bit less mag damage in comparison to spear.
if you like to pvp or doing jobs (trader/hunter) sword/shield is good,
if you only want to kill mobs spear will level faster.
however you should note that being a hybrid provides you some extra HP
so you dont need the extra defense from the shield... but thats left to you to decide. as I said before my guildmate is a sword/shield hybrid and it's working fine for him (but he's some levels higher than me so i havent PvPed him to see which is better) :P

but if you can spend some time to farm some SP, could could level spear till 20 and try some skills for yourself

i myself have some sword skills just to have some fun, but some will say it was a waste of SP but het, I play to have fun :D
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Not sure where to go farm things at my lvl, course the thought of getting 200 stupid flags from the stupid soldiers...so where should I go farm?
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Tatianasaphira wrote:Not sure where to go farm things at my lvl, course the thought of getting 200 stupid flags from the stupid soldiers...so where should I go farm?


just continue to do quest without raising your masteries for some levels. try to have a 6lvl gap (or more) and than try to farm on mobs (your level or lower) that you can kill fast. Killing fast means less damage taken so you wont waste pots and get a lot of gold at the same time. And try to farm a little stock.
if you dont know where to look the mob's level look here
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=197

hope I was helpfull :P
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Thank you it is. Now I know what the hell the bandit bowman are. I thought it was a spelling mistake and started beating up the archers and then got frustrated when I wasn't getting a count...Guess I know where to farm Axia...I have 200 to kill
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Hi all! I wanna ask one question, so what are str:int ratio if you have 34xx hp and 13xx mp at 37lvl without any +hp or +mp passive? Thx much! :oops:

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I think that's pure strength... every point you can allocate yourself into strength, so you could say 3:0 strength:int
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strike_freedom wrote:I think that's pure strength...

Okay, that mp just looks much at 37lvl to me.. :wink:

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I will need advice for my character, because higher level im, more confused im :)

Some players saying that my char is lost, some that is on good way...

Im level 29, and my str-int is almost equal. Im using glavie, fire is my primary, lightining secondary. Im with 5 level gap between char and masteries.

So how to manipulate with stat point in future? Shall i go in str only, or 1:1, 2:1 str-int, 3:0 str-int...?

I was with idea to start putting all my stat points in str, but im not sure about result in future.

Is there a good future for this char, or to start with new one?

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Well, after many considerations, I think I`m gonna stick with 2:1 STR.

My point is, I barely do PvP, and I think in my case, a Pure STR would take quite a while to kill anything and a Pure INT would die too often (not even to mention the thousands of pots).

Oh, I`m lvl 32 Fire-Blade.

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wow a korean player, our lvl cap is only 70 LOL, but really nice sword, can u take a pic of the glavie and blade?

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LamaX wrote:Well, after many considerations, I think I`m gonna stick with 2:1 STR.

My point is, I barely do PvP, and I think in my case, a Pure STR would take quite a while to kill anything and a Pure INT would die too often (not even to mention the thousands of pots).

Oh, I`m lvl 32 Fire-Blade.

Bladers tend to do pure, because they're gonna kill stuff slow, even if they're hybrid.

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Sui this one is directed towards you...

I'm hybrid (no exact ratio... but aroun 2:1 int)

and im stuck between sword and spear..

im trying to think about higher levels... sword could knock-down and stab twice... which would give some massive damage...

but a spear can do damage extremely quickly also... with very high nuke damage (but how much more than sword?) and ghost spear, soul spear, etc...

and i LOVE PvP

so i guess my question is... do you have problems with PvP and your build?

at your level... do you see any sword users that have high level chains doing good in PvP?

both sword and spear level fast enough for me so thats not a problem... im just curious about the PvP aspect of these builds... any info?

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Ok, Right now i'm level 16 with masteries in, Bow, Light, fire, and Force. I want to make a hybrid, I was thinking bow/glaive. I'm currently Pure str, is it okay if i go ahead now and start doing sp into glaive??

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first sry for my broken english..

I wanna learn a little thing.. I have lvl21 glave/full str/fire character.. what i must do now for higher dmg? 2int 1str or full str.. and full fire.. I know everybody has recorded to this topic but i dont have advanced english and i cant understanding all thing.. If the somebodies can help me i ll be happy..

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arthun wrote:first sry for my broken english..
I wanna learn a little thing.. I have lvl21 glave/full str/fire character.. what i must do now for higher dmg? 2int 1str or full str.. and full fire.. I know everybody has recorded to this topic but i dont have advanced english and i cant understanding all thing.. If the somebodies can help me i ll be happy..
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Full STR have better criticals them 2:1 str hybrid. 2:1 str hybrid has less damage on criticals and less hp. If u want to do big damages u should make a nuker, hehe. Full str glavies do good damages when they crit. Maybe goin full str and buying a high critical glavie would be the best for u.

I hope this helps. My english inst good either.
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superblur wrote:Sui this one is directed towards you...

Im not as cute as Sui but i will try to help u^^

I'm hybrid (no exact ratio... but aroun 2:1 int)
and im stuck between sword and spear..


First: chains are not good in PvP.
Second: Knockdown is very good, but only at 1vs1 PvP. At
group PvP if u knockdown ur oponent only u can hit him.. ur
friends cant help u to kill him. At 1vs1 Sword+Shield is
better them spear. At group PvP, spear is better. Its
ur choice xP

Oh.. and spear have stun and knockbacks that can disable
the oponent too...
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BlindSpear wrote:
arthun wrote:first sry for my broken english..
I wanna learn a little thing.. I have lvl21 glave/full str/fire character.. what i must do now for higher dmg? 2int 1str or full str.. and full fire.. I know everybody has recorded to this topic but i dont have advanced english and i cant understanding all thing.. If the somebodies can help me i ll be happy..
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Full STR have better criticals them 2:1 str hybrid. 2:1 str hybrid has less damage on criticals and less hp. If u want to do big damages u should make a nuker, hehe. Full str glavies do good damages when they crit. Maybe goin full str and buying a high critical glavie would be the best for u.

I hope this helps. My english inst good either.



Thank you very much for help..

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not sure of the lvls of the people in this battle or some other details, but check it out:

64+ hybrid sword buker vs. 64+ pure str glaiver. the glaiver has a +4 SoSun glaive!! ZOMG :) check it out.

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I've seen that video before sui, I really wish we knew what levels they were. The hybrid sword took a lot of damage without dying, almost seems impossible, and she did a little over 6K with a nuke o_0. Pretty strong for a hybrid, I'm thinking she must have quite a few SoX armor pieces Or she out-levels the glaive a bit because for a SoSun+4 glaive that damage isn't very high. She must also have tons of + stat items because she was doing a ton of damage without dying. Intresting vid though.
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Did u guys saw this other 2 vids? Some Duels with babel's int heay hybrid builds:

VIDEO 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj8KjP_Myyg

* 1st duel: bimbo_xinh (lvl69 glavier PURE STR/COLD) Vs qweeqwik (level 69 hybrid int spear)

* 2nd duel: PuRe (level 65 strength ice bow) Vs AE86 (level 69 hybrid int bow - 91% magic balance)


VIDEO 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CgMQ8nRR44

* bimbo_xinh (lvl69 glavier PURE STR/COLD) Vs Hailey lvl 70 hybrid int (82% magic?) Sword/Shield
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I'm looking forward to seeing how effective the new heuksal chains are once all the str glavies and spear hybrids finish SP farming or the cap is raised. I really think they could be useful.

And since the new alchemy has come out with its STR and INT increasing options, combined with my further PvP experience and some videos I've seen, and added to the fact that my magical balance is almost 100% already... I have been considering some slight additional hybridization in the future. But! I may be crazy.
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questionnnn

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i saw this one skill that looks like a hadouken (from street fighter)
and i was wondering what skill was that o_O

and is that in an elemental mastery or on the weaps mastery.

i decided to go pump all my points into STR until 40 then the rest into INT.
im not a big fan of PvP, never was in any game. but i like how i can currently tank 5-6 mobs at the same time. (pure str blader at lvl18, going to get to level 20, delevel back to 18 and sp farm away at bandit stronghold).

in terms of skills im interested in getting:

Strike n' Smash
Stab n' Smash
Crosswise smash
Illusion Chain
Blood Chain
Billow Chain
Snake Sword Dance
Petal Sword Dance
Bicheon Passive


River Fire Force
Extreme Fire Force
Poison Fire Force
Soul Fire Force
Fire Shield-Phoenix
Fire Shield-Flower
Fire Shield-King
Fire Shield-Emperor
Flame Body-Wisdom
Flame Body-Power
Flame Body-Extreme
Flame Devil Force


Weak Guard Of Ice
Soft Guard Of Ice
Power Guard Of Ice
Might Guard of Ice
Cold Armor Series


Grass Walk-Flow
Grass Walk-Speed
Heaven's Force



and i was wondering if i have space to max out one or two nukes (ie the hadouken that i still don't know the name of >_<) and how bad will i need to pot at higher levels using this path.

EDIT 1: the idea to go pure STR till 40 then go 1:2 was inspired by SG's build of going STR to 30 then int afterwards. my theory is this should give me enough hp to tank a good amount of mobs still but without worrying about MP as much (i pot about 2x mp pot than hp pot atm).
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I think the skill you mean is vital spot from the Force tree.
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the one that damages mobs ? aww i was hoping it was that lion shout thingy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CgMQ8nRR44

in this video the hybrid sword did it! i think it's one of the fire nukes .. it's so cool :oops:

haha wow i think it did 4387 dmg, not sure though, but i want it so bad lol.
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Vital spot does no damage but it shoots out a little red ball like the hadouken. Lion shout hits instantly and the animation is of a grasping hand up at the sky. Not very hadouken-like.
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im backkkk~!

another question

if i do pump str until level 30 then full INT until level 45 then back to STR.

will that be good enough to invest maxing out the whole lion shout thing since it's oh so cool?

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