Europeans Overpowered ?

DS^ · Post by **DS^** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:56 pm

Aren't Europeans overpowered ? I mean, is it even necessary to create a China char ? there aren't many things that can stop a rogeu doing Invisibility+Dagger desperate and then attacking a int based charater.
I can kill a lvl 38 ints in armour and lvl 42's ints in garms. If they hit me first, I'm dead but I usually hit them first because of Invisibility

I would like to hear what you guys think of it, oh and let's keep it clean.

Jackowns · Post by **Jackowns** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:12 pm

combustion series would be a good idea ^^

deep.in · Post by **deep.in** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:14 pm

I'd better be weaker chinese than gay looking euro. Btw, lets wait for new skills...maybe situation will change

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:23 pm

Simple answer YES do we got those 50% hp down and 50000000 % att power up??? nooooo we dont

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:45 pm

I don't really care??? Just make one of each. Oh, and I think each has their advantages.

Driver · Post by **Driver** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:49 pm

They are almost as powerfull in lvl 80 as a chinese lvl 80, must must must less sps to farm, they lvl godly well (and fast) in 8 parties, incredible goods buffs...

Chinese are only good if you are planning to play alone, in 4 parties...

I dont see any reason, if you are starting a new char, to choose chinese over european

iBilly · Post by **iBilly** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:37 pm

I prefer Chinese to Euro, so I guess there is a reason or I wouldn't have stopped playing Euro.

doomas · Post by **doomas** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:50 pm

They're not. This game is pretty much balanced. Every build has their own pros and cons.
"Everyone can kill me and I can kill everyone too" (except for bladers - they suc.k

)

IowU · Post by **IowU** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:08 pm

I'd better be weaker chinese than gay looking euro. Btw, lets wait for new skills...maybe situation will change

dude in my humble opinion if u fillin gay playing male char create female char and there will be no problem...

its weird that on 40lvl u say smth about overpower -.-

actually at 60lvl cap full int sux blader/glvier roox
70lvl cap int int hyb s/s roox full sosed glavier is also nice char blader sux
80lvl cap w/o skills int/ int hyb sux (s/s) glvaier is good blader rly sux
80lvl cap with skills int s/s is great int hyb spear is great glavier is great blader is great :>

so u see when u didnt reach max lvl and full farm u cant say anything about chars being overpowered... as u see many things may change each 5-6lvls...

Some facts:
8ppl chinese pt < 8ppl eu pt
chinese are better solo

why u whine u can also 1hit rogue... (if he dont use bless spell)

just be smart...

Ragnorak · Post by **Ragnorak** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:19 pm

europeans do have more power but due to pot delay they will also die....if a shield blocks and atk. from a wizard it will probably be a certain death to them. same thing goes if they get stun by a glaive/spear.

. pure pure str. also have fanning spear to increase magic. def.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:29 pm

Get a chinese pt with a euro buffer, figure the euros will have a hard time..

And you said it yourself, youre can 1 hit them if you hit them first. Oi, what happends when you fight 2 persons? Figure youre dead then also.

Every build has his pro and cons, if some stealth monkey tries to attack me and I am fast enough I knockback combo his ass and hope it will cancel the attack. Then after that I just launch some fast ass attack that deals a lot of damage, done.

realfoxboy · Post by **realfoxboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:40 pm

snigglez · Post by **snigglez** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:24 pm

lawl fight a level 80

i bet when 4 stabs comes out euros = dead ;D

KD STABSTABSTABSTAB

pot delay ftl

ciddy · Post by **ciddy** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:54 am

snigglez wrote:lawl fight a level 80

i bet when 4 stabs comes out euros = dead ;D

KD STABSTABSTABSTAB

pot delay ftl

it depends warrior could just ironskin, rogue xbow could kd you first, rogue dagger could stun and crit you to death before. but the int build yea they would die

-Evan · Post by **-Evan** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:05 am

When did SoSun became a build?

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:06 am

I guess they're overpowered but not really. I mean we can one hit em no problem but what pisses me off the most is how Fire Combustion doesnt do shit. It has the range of like a ghost spear and no rogue is dumb enough to stand that close just so they can get there cover blown...

Nyte · Post by **Nyte** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:10 am

DragonTalon wrote:I guess they're overpowered but not really. I mean we can one hit em no problem but what pisses me off the most is how Fire Combustion doesnt do shit. It has the range of like a ghost spear and no rogue is dumb enough to stand that close just so they can get there cover blown...

yup i agree, annoying.

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:12 am

The only way Fire Combustion could actually work is if you somehow knew the rogue was already there... Yeah Joymax totally farked up the chinese characters big time -_-

im_a_bot · Post by **im_a_bot** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:16 am

im naturaly overpowered its my curse

Scaglietti · Post by **Scaglietti** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:17 am

So far i only fought a 2h warrior 1 on 1 PvP so my answer is yes.

The dude kept on stunning me, knocking me back or down, i could not even stun or use a glavie chain on him, their sucess ratios to knock down/back are way too high, their armour totally owns Chinese armour and their crit ratio is insanely high, my glavie had a 9 crit and his sword had a 7 and he critted about 5 times and i critted only once.

The 2h warrior's skills are so bothering in battle that only a bower will be able to fight them normally without being knocked back every time he uses Soul Spear or some other move.

PiiNoY · Post by **PiiNoY** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:39 am

Yes but die so easy from pot delay.

ThatBluePerson · Post by **ThatBluePerson** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:48 am

Pot delay my ass, they all can 1hit you if your not ready.

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:29 am

yea, u can 1hit them if they're not rdy.

I_Chai_Vang_U · Post by **I_Chai_Vang_U** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:35 am

remenber..chinese can get buff from euro 2....so its balanced....no buff....chinese still owns...

krackhead · Post by **krackhead** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:12 am

No, they have pot delay.

Krad_Red · Post by **Krad_Red** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:36 am

Um, who cares about pot delay? most pvp with euros doesnt last long enough for that to matter. Euro players tend to be the Puss players, they stay in safe zone, then when you're in the middle of another pvp they'll come out and 1 hit you, then run back. Sure a chinese player can 1 hit them, but doesnt make much of a difference if the euro's hit and run, hit and run.

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:44 am

Krad_Red wrote:Um, who cares about pot delay? most pvp with euros doesnt last long enough for that to matter. Euro players tend to be the Puss players, they stay in safe zone, then when you're in the middle of another pvp they'll come out and 1 hit you, then run back. Sure a chinese player can 1 hit them, but doesnt make much of a difference if the euro's hit and run, hit and run.

No thats only Rogues. Sneak outta nowhere. Right when you win a pvp battle they come outta nowhere and steal your happiness :twisted:

Hitman144 · Post by **Hitman144** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:47 am

i still love my chinese no matter what , my first build was a bow , i made a bow build when they use to suck real bad. i play on my chinese not cuz of how powerful he is , i play him cuz i like the skills and i love BOW :love:

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:51 am

I play my nuker cause its more badass to kill people with Fireballs, lightning bolts, and ice glaciers instead of daggers :twisted:

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:54 am

Euro arent overpowered. They have superb attack boosts, for the cost of defense. However, with euro now in isro, the face of pvping will change alot. Maybe theres less 1on1 and more teamplay. No one char type can be independent (and this will become more apparent the higher cap we go, regardless of the char civ).

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