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you removed glory and favor armor from cleric SD
why?
doesnt work when we change wpn??

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so does a Rogue need to be SP farmed because I plan on making one using both weapons but Xbox till lvl 40 then ima start using dagger and xbow. Also my subclass is going to be Bard because of Speed and Noise and I like to Solo and PVP/Job.

So do you need to SP farm and how much do you recommend and what lvl to SP farm again?
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srry glory armor etc were removed because they don't stay when you change weapons...i misunderstood mocha* when he explained it to me...


Also unless you have a GT+SPGT from lvl 1-80 you will need to farm.....with those two things you can 0 gap and should have enough when you reach 80...without those 2 things you will need to farm...and even more for a sub class.....
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Guide is fantastic. Great job :)
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Post by madzoro »

first let me congratulate u on this gr8 guide
Nice work

i am lvl 49 xbow rogue & farming for dagger & cleric subbuild
i made tht decision before i saw tht guide wish i had seen it before ;)
well now i am not sure warlock or cleric :D
anyway i agree with nearly everything thing u said execpt pvping ...

well warlocks don't know y u said they r the ones to beat us
i mean a warlock nvr killed me ... nvr , even with block & remeber rogues have posion circle& range advantage with xbow , even if the stun u can tank just don't use extreme or desparte with them

wiz kill u 1 hit espically if they r higher thn ur lvl but it is just who shots first

now warriors they r very easy to kill until lvl 40 & they get iron skin tht skills sux makes their defense go up & they r wearing heavy armor it will be too tough to take warriors with iron skin on , but too easy with no iron skin lol

hope u get wht i mean cheers

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madzoro wrote:first let me congratulate u on this gr8 guide
Nice work

i am lvl 49 xbow rogue & farming for dagger & cleric subbuild
i made tht decision before i saw tht guide wish i had seen it before ;)
well now i am not sure warlock or cleric :D
anyway i agree with nearly everything thing u said execpt pvping ...

well warlocks don't know y u said they r the ones to beat us
i mean a warlock nvr killed me ... nvr , even with block & remeber rogues have posion circle& range advantage with xbow , even if the stun u can tank just don't use extreme or desparte with them

wiz kill u 1 hit espically if they r higher thn ur lvl but it is just who shots first

now warriors they r very easy to kill until lvl 40 & they get iron skin tht skills sux makes their defense go up & they r wearing heavy armor it will be too tough to take warriors with iron skin on , but too easy with no iron skin lol


i'll make some adjustments but warlocks become even more dangerous as they lvl up....I use my dagger more than i use my xbow so when i get stunned i normally get debuffed or DoT'd to death

Even with iron skin i don't consider warriors a big threat but i will warn ppl about it thx
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What a great guide! Very well done! :O
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BTW, under the gear section, the picture of a crossbow is where your talking about daggers, and the picture of a dagger is where your talking about crossbows. Just letting you know in case you want to fix that. Nice job with the guide.
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i asked this already but i ask again .
sry about double posting .
under stealth can we berseke?
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Post by MrLonely »

I remember this brought up somewhere but never actually answered,
Can we use wizard teleport without equipping wizard's staff?

Lol it wouldnt be worth to max whole tree just for 1 skill, but it would be interesting to know. :roll:

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Hmm, well, it doesn't say ''Used weapon: staff'', like the other wizard skills..
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i want to go rogue but i dont want to farm what should i do? choose only one wpn? skip sub? help me pls
i hate farming >.<
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Check the skillz calculators to plan the SP of your build but im pretty sure you'll have to farm for ANY sro character just not as much for Euros


Also i think you need the staff in hand to teleport so don't sub wizard -_-

You can't zerk while stealth what you can do its as soon as you attack zerk right after s your first attack will have the extra zerk damage
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XemnasXD wrote:Check the skillz calculators to plan the SP of your build but im pretty sure you'll have to farm for ANY sro character just not as much for Euros


Also i think you need the staff in hand to teleport so don't sub wizard -_-

You can't zerk while stealth what you can do its as soon as you attack zerk right after s your first attack will have the extra zerk damage


ok :l
thank you i guess i need to farm :banghead:
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This is reall good guide, it has pictures and everything :)
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XemnasXD wrote:SD-will greatly improve your defensive capabilities while solo. If you choose this form of the build you will basically only need the buffs and should not be prepared to act as a temp-healer if your party should need it. Your a strictly focusing on the buffs that will enhance your soling abilities.
-Healing
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-Holy Word
-Heaven Flash

Why no recovery division? Doesn't it work on yourself?

Because if it doesn't, I feel less inclined to get cleric as a sub for crossbow rogue, since thats the only healing skill that seems worthy (for soloing giants/party mobs).

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Etrad wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:SD-will greatly improve your defensive capabilities while solo. If you choose this form of the build you will basically only need the buffs and should not be prepared to act as a temp-healer if your party should need it. Your a strictly focusing on the buffs that will enhance your soling abilities.
-Healing
-Healing Cycle
-Bless
-Holy Word
-Heaven Flash

Why no recovery division? Doesn't it work on yourself?

Because if it doesn't, I feel less inclined to get cleric as a sub for crossbow rogue, since thats the only healing skill that seems worthy (for soloing giants/party mobs).


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Etrad wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:SD-will greatly improve your defensive capabilities while solo. If you choose this form of the build you will basically only need the buffs and should not be prepared to act as a temp-healer if your party should need it. Your a strictly focusing on the buffs that will enhance your soling abilities.
-Healing
-Healing Cycle
-Bless
-Holy Word
-Heaven Flash

Why no recovery division? Doesn't it work on yourself?

Because if it doesn't, I feel less inclined to get cleric as a sub for crossbow rogue, since thats the only healing skill that seems worthy (for soloing giants/party mobs).


well, i'm lvl 42 with lvl 38 masteries Rogue/Bard, and using large or X-large hp pots (auto pot at 75%), i can kill any party general/giant/champ lvl 42 or under, just switch from Xbow to daggers without DD or XBD of course, I allways have some medium/grain recovery pots (the purple ones) with me, and use it if my hp go below 40%, the trick is not to get mobed, tanks to noise and your wolf, if more than one mob got to you, use the wolf to tank the other/s. So i'm my self still supporting Bard for a Rogue sub instead of cleric.

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lol ..
very nice guide even I think that I know all these informations ..

ppl need to read guide like that ..

I'm lvl 40 rogue / cleric with 38 + 3 crosssbow .. I can kill lvl 48 spiders , 50 mujigi , 52 Hishade , and lvl 54 penons ..

I recorded some vedio and when upload it I will give you the links here

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umm what skills do i max for rouge? this guide only explains the skills but i dont know which 1 to max

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Cheetos wrote:umm what skills do i max for rouge? this guide only explains the skills but i dont know which 1 to max


If you want to be an Xbow rogue max everything except the dagger skillz

if you want to be a dagger rogue max everything except for crossbow..

eventually get both....
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Great guide, helped me alot with my rogue. :D

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is it possible to get 2 subclasses for my rogue?

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You can get 2 sub classes for your rogue, but you wont be able to max them both.

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shieldmaiden wrote:is it possible to get 2 subclasses for my rogue?


i wouldn't advise it.....the skillz you use your subclass for are good at low lvls but really only pay off if you get them to there higher lvls.....


but whatever floats your boat but like ^ said you won't be able to come close to maxing either if you choose 2 subs
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great guide dude

....i shouldve made a rogue guide... i knew this stuff

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So has any rogue with cleric sub tried out Recovery Division yet? Cause healing cycle's duration is too damn short to be useful in a long battle (PVP/boss/party mob), and if thats the only useful battle-use healing skill to get, then I rather take bard as a sub. >_>

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Etrad wrote:So has any rogue with cleric sub tried out Recovery Division yet? Cause healing cycle's duration is too damn short to be useful in a long battle (PVP/boss/party mob), and if thats the only useful battle-use healing skill to get, then I rather take bard as a sub. >_>


yeah you can use recovery division but i'd only choose cleric if you wanted defense.....healing is good and stuff but i'd rather take less damage than rely on my health coming back in time

bard for speed which is all well and good....
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