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Str Hybrid Blader

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Hi all.

Im thinking of switching to Str Hybrid Blader.
I didnt see too many topics about it, so i was thinking of making a huge topic about it. Just post your thoughts about it, and please tell me the reasons.
No need to be like : It sucks, they are shitty.
I want proof. Maybe some people with experience or people that have something to say about it. Like how much int and str should i add... etc

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I will say that hybrids are rare for str blade. Well someone needed to test out this build on str blade and compare it with a pure str. I just started out my str blade, I just like blade, the solo king ever :D

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IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.

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I was/am a hybrid blader. It's bad, trust me.
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Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so
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Dark_Majesty wrote:there is no wich one is better they all are good in different ways
but u should chose the one u like not the one that ppl tell u
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[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so

He's talking about pvp, anyone can tank in pve.

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Ell wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so

He's talking about pvp, anyone can tank in pve.


posts like these make me wonder if anyone on here even knows what a tank is or does for a party
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[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Ell wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so

He's talking about pvp, anyone can tank in pve.


posts like these make me wonder if anyone on here even knows what a tank is or does for a party

A tank is a player who takes damage...and if you're Chinese you don't really grind in parties anyway, and if you do, you don't need to pull mobs off nukers. They use these things called pots, without delay unlike euro.

What he's saying is that bladers are most well known for their survivability in pvp, why would you want to change that, if you really want to deal damage, just go glaive or bow.

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Ell wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Ell wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so

He's talking about pvp, anyone can tank in pve.


posts like these make me wonder if anyone on here even knows what a tank is or does for a party

A tank is a player who takes damage...and if you're Chinese you don't really grind in parties anyway, and if you do, you don't need to pull mobs off nukers. They use these things called pots, without delay unlike euro.

What he's saying is that bladers are most well known for their survivability in pvp, why would you want to change that, if you really want to deal damage, just go bow.



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[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so

there is sometin called KD :wink:
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I think there is no hybrid build for blader. And it doesn't work out that much, well since few of you have experienced before the hybrid build on blader and it sux. And pure str would be the sole build for blader.

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Shinobi wrote:
Dark_Majesty wrote:there is no wich one is better they all are good in different ways
but u should chose the one u like not the one that ppl tell u


And thats what im going to do.
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imo a hybrid blader is kinda pointless...if your gonna be hybrid be sword. As a blader the only chance you have of killing someone the same level equally equipped is a long series of crits, and if you lose str u lose the usefullness of crits. You deal more consisten damage but lets be realistic bladers dont have much damage to start with so improving it still does not help that much...where the hp you lose might be the difference between surviving that extra crit from a glaiver.
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truez wrote:
[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:
Drageath wrote:IMO if ur a blader ur a tanker, so u need hp not dmg. So i wouldn't go hybrid. I would still be very interested to hear wat a hybrid blader is like tho.


yeah sure the perfect tank ahum... cept.... have you ever seen a mob pull away from a nuker to go hit a blader? thats right i didnt think so

there is sometin called KD :wink:


ok obiously none of you have ever played a tank in any game besides sro. so say you are in guild war or job war... who you think you would kill first the person hitting you for 500s mabey 3ks on stabs, or the person whos nuking you for 10ks... think about that.

and in pve, the whole point of a tank is to keep aggro so the massive damage dealers dont die. a blade has absolutly no way of holding aggro, so he may attack first, and could even get a mob to [ ] hp alone before a dps hits it but soon as dps (nuker) hits the mob its ganna go strait for the nuker, meaning hes ganna die. and a blader has no way of stoping it.
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First, you say job/guild war (pvp)
Then you say mob (pve)

In SRO, JM made good tanks. Euro warriors, who actually have provoke and aggro-increasing abilities. However, these warriors cannot easily solo, because they cannot easily regain their health.

Chinese str is their pots. Although death is possible, it is equally possible for a nuker to endure many strikes... many more than their Euro counterparts.

For pvp, bladers can use KD to annoy opponents and allow nukers to run away.
In pve, nukers generally do not require tanks. They kill fast and can survive a hit or two just before the mob dies.

And just FYI - I played a thief, warrior, and paladin on FFXI. I enjoy SRO more because parties are optional here.
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Atsuten wrote:First, you say job/guild war (pvp)
Then you say mob (pve)

In SRO, JM made good tanks. Euro warriors, who actually have provoke and aggro-increasing abilities. However, these warriors cannot easily solo, because they cannot easily regain their health.

Chinese str is their pots. Although death is possible, it is equally possible for a nuker to endure many strikes... many more than their Euro counterparts.

For pvp, bladers can use KD to annoy opponents and allow nukers to run away.
In pve, nukers generally do not require tanks. They kill fast and can survive a hit or two just before the mob dies.

And just FYI - I played a thief, warrior, and paladin on FFXI. I enjoy SRO more because parties are optional here.


lol i cant tell if your aggreing with me or not. a euro warrior is a tank, china blader is not. plan in simple. ive played wow, played sro, played some other free mmos, and sro bladers are in no way a tank. they have no taunt... they have no way to attrack monsters. or players for that mater. look at euro chars, warriors have taunt increase in their skils, and also a seperate skill taht draws mobs to them. rogues have a skill which makes a player attack them. those are tank, bladers are not.
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Atsuten wrote:However, these warriors cannot easily solo, because they cannot easily regain their health.


You haven't played a euro s/s....they are TANKS, they don't need instant pot delay...trust me.

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i thinks maybe u can try 70:70 blader ,70:70 sword,70:70 glavie.

maybe u can get a OMG result .

just likes bow,before this ppl always use pure str....but a stupid ppl go test 70:70 and find out good result ...

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kwfreedom wrote:i thinks maybe u can try 70:70 blader ,70:70 sword,70:70 glavie.

maybe u can get a OMG result .

just likes bow,before this ppl always use pure str....but a stupid ppl go test 70:70 and find out good result ...


Not my preferred choice of words :D .

I have thought about that though. If you do a very heavy int hybrid you could basically tank as well as a bladder for 2 min with snow shield. A 70:70 balance will let you use 40% mana shield maybe up to 45%.

Yet you would do a good amount of damage and your crits will still hit very hard. I don't think anyone on this board has actually tried it though. :D
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kwfreedom wrote:i thinks maybe u can try 70:70 blader ,70:70 sword,70:70 glavie.

maybe u can get a OMG result .

just likes bow,before this ppl always use pure str....but a stupid ppl go test 70:70 and find out good result ...

i don't believe in a 70:70 sword build, i had a 1:2 sword (which is almost the same) and till lv 40 it was good, after that i was getting smashed by every blader/glavie/bow....lol my damage was laaaameeee
70:70 spear is already a known build....1:2 hybrid spear goes in that direction
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Post by Sylhana »

Dont go Hybrid blade. Its better to just go hybrid int sword w/e the balance.

I have a 1:2 hybrid int s/s, and it can tank well enough without snow shield. With snow shield, it can tank even better <.<
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im going to try it out, im the highest hybrid blader on pacific, lvll 77 :D , but i havnt pvp any1 yet cuz i have no garment chest and im not farmed, 1 week or 2 we will see when i pvp, Btw 90%phy and 73% mag.
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ok i just delvl all my pacheon and got blade skills
Im the only high lvl hybrid blader on pacific. Im currrently lvl 77 hybrid blader 90% phy and 75% mag AND ON 5 GAP. I have FULL BLUE ACCESOIRES, FULL SET BLUE GARMENT 72-76 NO SUN, 72+5 BLADE AND SHIELD. Im wearing garment chest lvl 73+3 white.

I fought ROCCO lvl 80, sun sword, 3 sun parts(armor), it was a pot match
I fought cogaidolong lvl 80 full farm, full blue pro +5 and 72+9 spear, it was pot match
Fought Eliteturk, lvl 78 glaiver, unknown gear it was pot match

SO IN THE END, no matter what kind of blader you are, it will always be pot fight of course as long as your not pure int blader. But hybrid would do more damage, so its up to u, more damage or more hp, i survive fine as hybrid blader i dont get kill often, as i said i tanked a lvl 80 full farm with +9 spear and i only have +5 wep and im lvl 77 unfarm and its still a pot fight.
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kwfreedom wrote:i thinks maybe u can try 70:70 blader ,70:70 sword,70:70 glavie.

maybe u can get a OMG result .

just likes bow,before this ppl always use pure str....but a stupid ppl go test 70:70 and find out good result ...


if u look at the weapons, blade/glaive is phy based, sword/spear is int based, and bow is somewhere inbetween...
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