glaive chains

klaus · Post by **klaus** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:28 am

thers is any usefull skill in the chain sereis?
some ppl say that is good for PvM, is really good? or u dont need it at all, until now i only have ghost spear and soul spear, i am a full str glaive fire

ps:pls dont say to me take it cuz looks cool :banghead:

antix · Post by **antix** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:36 am

This move is really great for PvE but is compltely worthless for PvP. You should also get it because in higher levels it looks cool. You get to do backflips!!

zero510 · Post by **zero510** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:36 am

I think you should take it. I have it, but not 2nd book only like lvl 3 on it.

klaus · Post by **klaus** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:58 pm

antix wrote:
antix wrote: it looks cool.

klaus wrote:thers is any usefull skill in the chain sereis?
ps:pls dont say to me take it cuz looks cool

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Mon May 22, 2006 1:11 pm

in some fights lower damage and more speed > big slow hits Simple ,
it disapoints me to see ppl that still think 2 skills +1 imbue will win you every fight

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:47 pm

if ur using same 2 skills to win a PVP think again, if u really are ur just counting on ur crits, if u use soul spear den linked up with ghost and nice crits nearly loadz of health has gone, but wen u charge up for another soul spear dey wud of potted 3/4 of there health and ur not guaranteed to hit another crit, so if u link 2 combos together u can slow down there potting and get a better chance to crit cz u've done 9 hits with 2 combos, den use soul spear this gives a better chance of killing because these moves cast quite slow and ghost spear charges up slow. And i'm ice glavie so combos are great for me.

Kew · Post by **Kew** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:41 am

chain spear nachal is good. 4 very fast hits
chains are also great against shield users. i HAD someone block 2 soul pears and 2 ghosts spears in a row..

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:39 pm

lol same er dats y i went for ice glavie cz alot of ppl are blade builds cz they pwn in PVP, my ice and glavie combos slow dem down alot and also sumtimes cancle their skills, and i also can freeze dem with nova wind and nova woods, this gives me time to pot off there crits on Kd + stabs and also my buff also lets me tank alot of the dmgg of blader, so really i think ice glavie is better for PVP as fire glavie 90% dies frim blader because of no buffs and survivability skills, their just roar power which can be bad sumtime as they often get killed by nukers, and ice glavie are so gud against nukers, i use frost nova just b4 thery use nuke so i have 50% chance of cancling the move den follow uo with SS and ghost, den after that use combos to freeze dem agen and slow down there stupid nukes. And thats wot i call tatical play. But ice glavie usually are better for group den 1 on 1 but also amazing for 1 on 1 dnt get me wrong.

Misaklo · Post by **Misaklo** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:31 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:lol same er dats y i went for ice glavie cz alot of ppl are blade builds cz they pwn in PVP, my ice and glavie combos slow dem down alot and also sumtimes cancle their skills, and i also can freeze dem with nova wind and nova woods, this gives me time to pot off there crits on Kd + stabs and also my buff also lets me tank alot of the dmgg of blader, so really i think ice glavie is better for PVP as fire glavie 90% dies frim blader because of no buffs and survivability skills, their just roar power which can be bad sumtime as they often get killed by nukers, and ice glavie are so gud against nukers, i use frost nova just b4 thery use nuke so i have 50% chance of cancling the move den follow uo with SS and ghost, den after that use combos to freeze dem agen and slow down there stupid nukes. And thats wot i call tatical play. But ice glavie usually are better for group den 1 on 1 but also amazing for 1 on 1 dnt get me wrong.

i cringed at reading that......... anyway you might be right but the logic your using is: i'm ice glaive and i playing smart so i win agaist a fire glaive who isn't. it like saying i'm a 50/50 hydrid and i'm playing smart by killing mangyangs so i'll win against them. what if the mangyangs played smart to?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:30 am

lol i was joking about that tactical play bit, if fire and ice glavie had a fight it wud just be a plain pot fight, der will be no point. its only fun fighting against nukers because the rounds are fast, its either u die fast or they die fast, i hate pot fights waste my money. and i'm not saying ice if better then fire, they are equally matched if u ask me. butg i think fire is bit better at 1 on 1 but ice is bit better for group. but this is just my opinion.

Post by **dom** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:01 am

, . Please use them.

Why does everyone just compare main imbue + weapon? It comes down to much more before just saying it's a "pot fight". Just because you read something on the forum doesn't make it true.

SP farmed, number or sub trees, player skill, player's weapon [crit, damage, sos, +#], level, choice of armor type, etc.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:02 am

dom wrote:, . Please use them.

Why does everyone just compare main imbue + weapon? It comes down to much more before just saying it's a "pot fight". Just because you read something on the forum doesn't make it true.

SP farmed, number or sub trees, player skill, player's weapon [crit, damage, sos, +#], level, choice of armor type, etc.

It's a pot fight once you get past 5k hp. That is, if they don't have an SoSun Glavie with 14 crit and +5.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:18 am

ok wen u hit lvl 70, bladers have 10k hp and glaviers have 12 including buff, no full str builds can take this much unless u have crit 14 weap SOSUN+5 like it was said above, i'm ice glavie and i have bout 12.5 k health including my blues, if u see lvl 70 glavies fight, with maxed out masterys to lvl 70, glavies only shine if they do alot of crits, same with bladers, nukers are the only build dat consistantly does high dmg but they lack in health (3 - 4k at lvl 70) every full str fight after lvl 60 is a pot fight even at lvl 40+ its sumtimes a pot fight, even if u have SOS. All builds have pros and cons, fire glavies are better for group PvP but they die fast if mobbed, ice glavie can last longer if mobbed, well long enuf till sum1 cums and helps, but fire glavie can do more dmg on 1 on 1, but in group u want to do gud dmg and have gud surviability, ice glavie is like a balance between these two, but fire glavie lack in the defence but there power is just unbelieveable wen they do crits. Its more a style of play den whos better then who, there all gud as each other except they made bladers annoying.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 10:24 am

dom maybe ur right but if u ever had a glavie build they dnt take much SP well ice takes more den fire but only a bit, fire only uses soul, ghost and dragon, thats too boring for me, ice uses combos, soul, ghost and dragon, this is more fun cz the combos are so cool ^^. But if bladers have high crit weap they just end up dominating especially ice bladers, they constanly freezing u and constantly doing crits cz the combos hit so fast and linking them together are just unstoppable, even if they get stunned by the glaviers, they can still blok hits and pot off sum dmg, its stupid how they made bladers so strong and made bowers so weak.

johnjohn · Post by **johnjohn** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:06 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:dom maybe ur right but if u ever had a glavie build they dnt take much SP well ice takes more den fire but only a bit, fire only uses soul, ghost and dragon, thats too boring for me, ice uses combos, soul, ghost and dragon, this is more fun cz the combos are so cool ^^. But if bladers have high crit weap they just end up dominating especially ice bladers, they constanly freezing u and constantly doing crits cz the combos hit so fast and linking them together are just unstoppable, even if they get stunned by the glaviers, they can still blok hits and pot off sum dmg, its stupid how they made bladers so strong and made bowers so weak.

LOL Flying Dragon? What's that? I thought glaviers were melee fighters...

Bowers so weak? Bladers so strong? I think Joymax had its reasons : bladers are slow levelers, bowers are not.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:12 pm

flying dragon is a distance skill, if u dnt get it, ur just a twat, cz u wnt have any other distance skills.

johnjohn · Post by **johnjohn** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:43 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:flying dragon is a distance skill, if u dnt get it, ur just a twat, cz u wnt have any other distance skills.

...the only use i have for flying dragon is :
- when surrounded by robbers archers while soloing a giant. It's so funny to one-shot them one by one(when I'm zerked). I don't want those naughty archers to hurt my little wolfy

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- one-shooting newbies at Jangan southgate :twisted:

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- one-shooting white tigers while trading between DH and Jangan.

That's why I took 1st level of 1st book. I don't think it deserves more sp IMHO... I try not to waste my precious sp!