Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

zeldazoo22 · Post by **zeldazoo22** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:13 am

But people, just answer this, would you go 90 fire 90 pacheon 60 cold 60 lightning? or what?

zeldazoo22 · Post by **zeldazoo22** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:18 am

lol the bob the veg thing doesnt work! i cliked on head added the stat points but then the magical and physical balances went past 400.....im trying to make it 70:70

Post by **Stress** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:40 am

Damn, raise the level of the character first... :banghead:

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:57 am

doesnt rly answer my question -.-...................

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:18 am

wut people still use bow? :shock:

glavie · Post by **glavie** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:09 pm

Zeldazoo22

Ice Warrior

The 3 most common builds for any bower would be:
max fire/light/bow
max ice/light/bow
max fire/ice/bow with usually 60light for grasswalk and piercing force.
or a sub tree in whatever you want.

1st build is offensive. 2nd build is defensive. 3rd build in between.

If you want to do 60 ice and 60 light go for it you will be fine.
I personally like to run fast so I will have light maxed. But most people get away with 60 light quite easily.

HertogJan I am very glad str bow is still good. I am looking forward to see how the hybrids do with the new skills.
Have you been able to penetrate and kill a nuker with mana shield running?
I did some pvp last night with 2 lvl 55 players 1 with sos+5 sword and 1 with sos+7 blade. With me running around in circles both of them couldn't kill me as long as I had mana shield on. When I lost mana shield i died in about 5 sec. Im lvl 58btw.
I also tanked the bladders zerk with the mana shield up.

Couldn't kill the bladder though

His stupid knockdown.
I killed the hybrid int easily but she is still in 6d gear. I am full7d.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:22 pm

glavie wrote:Zeldazoo22

http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/

click on the head icon and you can answer your own question.

I find it funny how all of a sudden people are like oh my god bow rocks. Especially 70:70 hybrid bow. The bottom line is bow is now competitive with the other builds once you have stun and knock back.
And mana shield helps the hybrid builds.
But seriously people!!!!!
We are now competitive once we get to lvl 74+. Well great I am looking forward to that, in 1 year I will be that level.

And no disrespect to undutchable but he has sosun bow. Any build with sosun will be able to kill someone.

Don't forget every build has disabling moves before us. ..... crossbow has knock back almost instantly.

Im not saying its a bad build. I enjoy it but I hope everyone realizes what they are getting into by going bow.

When do we get bleed on our arrow combo?

well, not so true

how maney people in this forum are really trying the 70:70 bow build? something like 8?? (too lazy to count them,)
if you compare it to pure str glavie it's something like 0,00002%

and i didn't choose it becease it would rock, but becease it was a better pve build then a pure str

also, strong bow is really short to pull of now, it's such a good skill in pvp and pve........so not competive till 76+?? i doubt it...
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Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:47 pm

ppl jus see bowers as pure str because of all the crit increase on bow skills, but going hybrid you can deal more overall dmg with nice crits and also able to use mana shield, it jus depends on ur playing style, and myns 70:70 bow

guillaumetel · Post by **guillaumetel** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:04 pm

I read most part of this thread and I'm interested in doing such a build.

But I have just a question: what masteries can I take at 80 ?
- 80 pacheon, 80 fire, 80 light ?
or 80 pacheon, 80 ice (with ic imbue), 60 fire, 60 light ?

I really don't know what to take...

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:50 pm

whit this build you certainly need mana shield imo
but the question is does it really needs 50%???

im gonna try to have just ice lv 40, and max everything else (pacheon/fire/ligtning)
and @ the 90 cap....don't really know yet....87 pacheon/ligt/fire and 40 points into ice

asumming i will reach 90, which i proberly will only dream off:P

guillaumetel · Post by **guillaumetel** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:52 pm

80 pacheon, 80 ice (imbue), 70 fire (for buffs) and 60 light => 300 masteries.

It can be good thing, and when 90 cap is realease, I'll just have to delevel fire or light. Perhaps 70 ice is enough for imbue, I don't know.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:06 pm

guillaumetel wrote:80 pacheon, 80 ice (imbue), 70 fire (for buffs) and 60 light => 300 masteries.

It can be good thing, and when 90 cap is realease, I'll just have to delevel fire or light. Perhaps 70 ice is enough for imbue, I don't know.

this is certainly not...becease the 70:70 bow build is an INT build

so imbue will make you hit much harder

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:20 pm

70:70 is more int then str, i think you shud go ice/light, since fire is useless except for the imbue and the mag def others are just bonus's, u cud wear garm and use ice as ur main phy def since you have ice wall and mana shield, i'm pretty sure ice imbue or light imbue wil ldo mre then enough dmg to kill as a 70:70

Post by **Rainigul** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:22 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:70:70 is more int then str, i think you shud go ice/light, since fire is useless except for the imbue and the mag def others are just bonus's, u cud wear garm and use ice as ur main phy def since you have ice wall and mana shield, i'm pretty sure ice imbue or light imbue wil ldo mre then enough dmg to kill as a 70:70

It's not pure int though, I think it works best with 80 pacheon, 80 fire, 80 light, 60 ice.

That way you still have the big ice defence along with a 40% snowshield, but the damage of fire imbue and the fire and lightning magical and physical attack buffs, along with every other buff maxed out.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:45 pm

ye true but lvl60 ice i dnt think wil lgive enough phy def, i watched sro euro pvp 2 on youtube and the rogue crossbow raped glavies on ksro in like 3 or 4 hits.

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:43 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:ye true but lvl60 ice i dnt think wil lgive enough phy def, i watched sro euro pvp 2 on youtube and the rogue crossbow raped glavies on ksro in like 3 or 4 hits.

that were proberly the movies from da_realest

he said that they where the top players of euro.....

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:24 am

For the one that dont want to maximized his inbue I have to said that is your worst idea. Im 1:1 and do clearly more magical dmg than phys dmg and if you have a 70:70 build this will be more significative. I use my snow shield at 35% because (i have the 3rd book too), but on hard fights (the fights that really deserve use the snow shield) I runout of mana on middle of the fight if I use 40%. Here are my stats that were request, but always forget to post them:

I think that the 70:70 can use 40% without problem, 45% is probably too much and if he try to max it at 50% he will definitly have no MP to do skills. About how effectively work snow shield on hibrids increseasing their tank capabilities, friday I got this guy trying to kill me

http://www.rev6.com/index.php?site=player&player=9140
(Rev6.com isnt update because his spear is now +7)

I put my snow shield at 35%, switch to my 72+4 shield (no way to kill full sun with 72+5 weapon, so I didnt bother to try) and went afk 2 minutes with him nuking me and doing weapons skills. When I realized that my snow shield is was fading I run to safe zone, wait 1 minutes and go out again; he inmediatly phantom at my side to try to kill me again (he was a bit angry about failling

) so I cast snow shield again and another 2 minutes afk with him :wink:

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muyo · Post by **muyo** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:15 am

i stuck with my blader level 56...get ks no matter where i grind..

this build spice up my SRO life again...i never use bow full time b4...ill try this build..

ill try pac 80,ice,80,light for the moment

EDIT: but not taking fire mean ill loose mag def,body wisdom and fire shield and of coz damage...sigh...joymax should put any if this skill in either ice or light..this is so unbalance

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:40 am

so 70:70 bow ice/light bad idea? ice wall can come in handy?

guillaumetel · Post by **guillaumetel** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:43 pm

Doctor_MOS wrote:
guillaumetel wrote:80 pacheon, 80 ice (imbue), 70 fire (for buffs) and 60 light => 300 masteries.

It can be good thing, and when 90 cap is realease, I'll just have to delevel fire or light. Perhaps 70 ice is enough for imbue, I don't know.

this is certainly not...becease the 70:70 bow build is an INT build

so imbue will make you hit much harder

Ok thanks for the advice you and Tomiotar.

I don't want to level up 4 masteries, because it's too much SP and with 90, you can't have 4 masteries, you have to delevel one.

So if I take this 70:70 build, should I go for Light and Ice ?
This build seems to have good magical defense, so perhaps with garment I can fight without Fire shield. But sure I will miss Fire body...

@tomiator: a 70:70 build will have greater magical defense than you ? And what aobut you pvp success ? I saw on Rev6 you have good stuff but no Sox, can you kill easily in pvp 1 vs 1 ?

glavie · Post by **glavie** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:15 am

Tomiotar
Thanks for posting your stats I really appreciate it.

Could you give us more info on the mana shield?
What % do you run your pots at? You said middle of the fight it runs out. Does that mean if you used a vigor ocasionally you wouldn't runout? How much mp do you have on your clothes?

guillaumetel
Tomiotar does not have sox gear because 3rd tier is better than sox.

Choosing which force trees is difficult. Tomiotar clearly thinks fire imbue is worth the extra damage. I still am not convinced. However he does have both lol. Ultimetly I think it comes down to playing style.
Currently I have ice and light imbue and I always use ice. When I start running into people who are ice immune I may change my mind. For now Ice is best for me.

Edit*
I was just looking at tomiotars build. It is roughly 25 stat points more into str and about 1070 more hp.

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:28 am

this build really need phy defense but if u take ice ull lose magic defense and bigger damage from imbue and body wisdom..

arrghhh...its hard to chose ice buff+mana shield or fire buff

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:12 pm

since u cnt use 50% mana shield anyway wots the point going all ice.......................

TerenceChill · Post by **TerenceChill** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:06 pm

i am also 70:70 bow wearing protector, but i'll think about switching to armor at D7, coz my physical defence isnt very good tbh. i'll max bow, fire and light (mag dam ftw!) and raise ice up to 50 for having manashield at ~35% i guess. if using manashield...maybe ill stay at protector. hm, ill think about it ^^
all in all i like that build and would always prefer it to a pure str bow, coz it deals much more damage and with manashield you can tank nearly the same like pure str without

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:27 am

First of all only doing the 80/80 build for Cin

anyway im not fully farm yet and i use garment Nuker are not a problem to me,higher nuker i kill was level 70 and he had mana shield and everything
and he die quick, ofcurse if i don't got mana shield on i will die in 2-3 hits

so far im level 64 with mastery level 55,light,cold,pancheo.

i can own any1 my level yes i got full garment sos 7d set+4 and sos level 64 bow+4 higher level glavie i have kill is level 68 Thaily you can ask him himself. but without mana shield i die quick. and hes mastery is like level 65 i think cuz last time he told me he was fully farm but he does low damage on me and i use garment and my phy def is slow and he still do low damage on me.thas why for level 78 im thinking of going protector to have a nice phy and magic def.

once im fully farm i will post some of my pvp fight.

zeldazoo22 · Post by **zeldazoo22** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:49 am

Ok..so...i'm farming right now at stronhold, (im a pure str bow so far still not sure which build 70:70 or pure str bower is better at pvp,) and I want to know how I should add my stat points to make character, IF I decide to be a pure str bow. Im not starting over my character though. Also, I want to know if you think these builds sound good.

For Pure Str Bow: 100 pacheon 100 fire 100 Light.

For 70:70: 100 Pacheon 50 Ice 50 Lightning 100 Fire.

I'm realy not sure if I should shoot for the 100 cap or 90 cap.

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:01 am

one more question...is this new update decrease the chance to resist freeze?

im interested on using ice imbue to freeze...ist a good idea???

TerenceChill · Post by **TerenceChill** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:00 pm

zeldazoo22 wrote:Ok..so...i'm farming right now at stronhold, (im a pure str bow so far still not sure which build 70:70 or pure str bower is better at pvp,) and I want to know how I should add my stat points to make character, IF I decide to be a pure str bow. Im not starting over my character though. Also, I want to know if you think these builds sound good.

For Pure Str Bow: 100 pacheon 100 fire 100 Light.

For 70:70: 100 Pacheon 50 Ice 50 Lightning 100 Fire.

I'm realy not sure if I should shoot for the 100 cap or 90 cap.

going for 100 cap as legit player...you will be playing kinda 3 years lol xD i hope something will happen to make that faster, its just insane otherwise

pinkpantha · Post by **pinkpantha** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:29 pm

hey all, ive been looking at this thread for a while now and i have a lv 17 pure str bow... my question is it too late to go 70:70 or to start making him 70:70 now...

also what skills are the best for the build you pick?

thanks,

WrathShielder · Post by **WrathShielder** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:08 pm

I would say no definately not at 17.....just start dumping your 3 points in INT each level.....I don't have time to figure out how many levels it would take to get you back to 70:70 but I am sure someone else can estimate or exactimate it for you.

As far as skills, I can give you my take on what I have taken so far at Lvl 3x on my 70:70 build.

Pacheon
Anti
Combo
Strong (1 hit imbue flowers with it so why not and delay has decreased significantly imo)
White Hawk
Autumn (started but now I will delevel since I never use)
Demon (distance)
Beserker (I always level this up last if I have SP left over since I aint farmed)
Passive
FLower Bloom (new skill - decent crit - helps start kill on next mob)

Ice
Jade (imbue)
Guard
SnowShield
Passive

Light
Must Pierce
Grass-Walk
Nuke(since magic damage is high I figured why not since it helps when getting mobbed as well)
Passive

Fire
Fire shield
Basic Fire Protection
Passive

I may have to delevel some of these in the future since last time I checked I would be over the allotted points but for now