9th Degree + protectors

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:08 pm

does any1 think that the future protectors feature animals from the chinese zodiac becase that's what it seem's like and I concluded this because I looked at all the drawings on the homepage and and alot of them featured animals from the chinese zodiac,and since we already know that 9th degree features the boar and 10th degree features the ox. so what do u think about it? from 9th-15th degree will the protectors will feature different animals from the Chinese Zodiac. I think that 11th degree will feature the Ram but I dunno about the other protectors

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:11 pm

All I know the 7th degree is based off the monkey.

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:12 pm

HakubiNi wrote:All I know the 7th degree is based off the monkey.

really I never did notice...I thought it just looked pretty

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:19 pm

I know that because the chinese writing on the 7th degree protector female tasset (legs) means "Monkey (of the zodiac)". Other than that, I can only assume depending on the equipment names.

Nenhunter · Post by **Nenhunter** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:24 pm

the ram is already used on the lvl 32+ protector (the yellow ones) i think.
The visible hat clearly looks like a ram. I'll try to find one of those hats and screen it

ThatBluePerson · Post by **ThatBluePerson** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:46 pm

The dragon is already in some shields, and armors... also the ram.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:08 pm

JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.

In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.

the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac

i don't know them all but i think

3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox

anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

GaS · Post by **GaS** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:12 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.

In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.

the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac

i don't know them all but i think

3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox

anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

This is probably a hint that the max cap will go to 120, not 150.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:17 pm

We're missing Rat, Rabbit, Dog, Tiger

Im going to say

1D=Rat
2D=Rabbit ( the armor helmet kinda looks like it has bunny ears)

so the remaining sets should be based of the Dog and the Tiger.....should be awsome

s0017 · Post by **s0017** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:50 pm

I still think 6D and 5D armors both represent the snake. Python Armor, Hard Scale armor.

Nenhunter · Post by **Nenhunter** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:51 pm

well, 7D spear is based off of the Dragon....Its called Dragon Horn spear.... :shock:

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:06 pm

I remember reading somewhere that SRO said the 1D-4D (or something) are based on actual items and weapons of the time, and the rest are based on fantasy.

pinoyplaya · Post by **pinoyplaya** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:16 pm

Is this correct?

As far as weapons go...
Degree - Level
1 - 1
2 - 8
3 - 16
4 - 24
5 - 32
6 - 42
7 - 52
8 - 64
9 - 76
10 - 88
11 - 100 or 102?
12 - 112 or 114?
13 - 124 or 130?
14 - 136 or 146?

LOL, I thought there was a pattern in there. If I was wrong in the 9th degree one, then im wrong with the rest haha.

Edit: Maybe this one is the right one.........

Starting at 9

9 - 75
10 - 88
11 - 101
12 - 115
13 - 130
14 - 145

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:23 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.

In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.

the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac

i don't know them all but i think

3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox

anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

but isn't 1 of the protectors for 7th degree named tiger? U know Tiger Bone Protetctor? so I think we should replace monkey with tiger

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:34 pm

pinoyplaya wrote:Starting at 9

9 - 75
10 - 88
11 - 101
12 - 115
13 - 130
14 - 145

9d is 76, which can be proven. Guessing by the pattern of 2nd and 3rd tier 9d, which is lvl 80 and 85 that there would be a 5 lvl gap between 9d third tier and 10d first tier so my guess is 10d will go 90, 95, 100. Yet again I'm speaking out of theorycraft and basing all that I'm saying on past paterns of equipment.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:06 pm

StuckUP wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.

In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.

the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac

i don't know them all but i think

3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox

anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

but isn't 1 of the protectors for 7th degree named tiger? U know Tiger Bone Protetctor? so I think we should replace monkey with tiger

yeah but 2 ppl up thee said that the writing on the armor says monkey...of course thats not really THAT credible so i guess we could replace it but since we don't know its better to just leave it up in the air i guess.....the thing on the armor shoulder pad does look more like a tiger than a monkey though

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:22 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
JoyMax wrote:The weapons and armor are each divided into 12 different types and from the lowest 1st degree to the 6th degree weapons; these weapons are all taken from historical accounts of weapons and defenses in order to be a grounded in reality as close as possible. The 7th degree to 12th degree equipment are based on elements that do not violate the cultural feel yet have hints of fantasy and use imagery that has a powerful feel but at the same time does not stray too far from the historical.

In the case of the Chinese, 12 spirits of the land, animals, and their images are used on the equipment and for each have uniqueness to them. In the case of the Europeans, the Imperial imagery of 12 constellations differentiates the equipment.

the 12 animals they are refering to are the Chinese zodiac

i don't know them all but i think

3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox

anyone figure out what 1D and 2D are and then we'll be able to figure out what 11D and 12D are

but isn't 1 of the protectors for 7th degree named tiger? U know Tiger Bone Protetctor? so I think we should replace monkey with tiger

yeah but 2 ppl up thee said that the writing on the armor says monkey...of course thats not really THAT credible so i guess we could replace it but since we don't know its better to just leave it up in the air i guess.....the thing on the armor shoulder pad does look more like a tiger than a monkey though

+1

Post by **Rainigul** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:35 pm

Manowar wrote:
pinoyplaya wrote:Starting at 9

9 - 75
10 - 88
11 - 101
12 - 115
13 - 130
14 - 145

9d is 76, which can be proven. Guessing by the pattern of 2nd and 3rd tier 9d, which is lvl 80 and 85 that there would be a 5 lvl gap between 9d third tier and 10d first tier so my guess is 10d will go 90, 95, 100. Yet again I'm speaking out of theorycraft and basing all that I'm saying on past paterns of equipment.

This is the real grid I believe:

1D - 1
2D - 8
3D - 16
4D - 24
5D - 32
6D - 42
7D - 52
8D - 64
9D - 76
10D - 88/90
11D - 102/104/106
12D - 122/124/126

I don't think there's a 13D.

[EDIT:] This might be it:

1D - 1
2D - 8
3D - 16
4D - 24
5D - 32
6D - 42
7D - 52
8D - 64
9D - 76
10D - 88
11D - 102
12D - 116
13D - 132

... Maybe.

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:52 pm

I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:33 am

lol 7th deg is tiger?

vindicated01 · Post by **vindicated01** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:36 am

no d9 prot...only armor and garment for d9...

Rizla · Post by **Rizla** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:52 am

XemnasXD wrote:10D=Ox

Nice thats my year ^^

Hitman144 · Post by **Hitman144** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:06 am

isnt the 3rd deg armor based on the RAM ??

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:08 am

HakubiNi wrote:I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.

Yep. I would bet my glavie on it.

isnt the 3rd deg armor based on the RAM

Nope if you look at 4th degree protector you can clearly tell that it's based on ram.

knredash · Post by **knredash** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:24 pm

And so its goes that the zodia for Chinese gear is a mixed? Key: Observe the "Hat" and "Shoulder" pattern, follow by the "Torso" with "Legs", and finally the "Hands" and "Feet"...

D1 Rat (Parts)
D2 Rabbit (Parts) <= Joymax throws in Hare elements into it... the "ears" are the "feeders"
D3 Rooster (Parts)
D4 Sheep (Parts)
D5 Dragon (Parts)
=> Arm = Dragon "Scales", Prot = Dragon "Claw", Gar = Dragon "Fire"
=> Some artists associate Dragon with snakes as "same family", maybe thats why D5 Prot has "Python" for its name.
D6 Snake (Parts)
D7 Tiger (PArts)
D8 Horse (Parts) <= it seems that Joymax merge it with Pegasus... wings (prot)...
D9 Pig (PArts) <= Joymax transform it into a Boar...
D10 Ox (Parts)

Whats left are the Dog (Wolves mix?) and Monkey (I wonder what mix we going to find here... Apeman or Gorilla? or maybe KING KONG?)? for D11 and D12? [Since Joymax mentioned there will only be 12 Degrees for items]

Link to this thread: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=652873

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:34 pm

knredash wrote:And so its goes that the zodia for Chinese gear is a mixed? Key: Observe the "Hat" and "Shoulder" pattern, follow by the "Torso" with "Legs", and finally the "Hands" and "Feet"...

D1 Rat (Parts)
D2 Rabbit (Parts) <= Joymax throws in Hare elements into it... the "ears" are the "feeders"
D3 Rooster (Parts)
D4 Sheep (Parts)
D5 Dragon (Parts)
=> Arm = Dragon "Scales", Prot = Dragon "Claw", Gar = Dragon "Fire"
=> Some artists associate Dragon with snakes as "same family", maybe thats why D5 Prot has "Python" for its name.
D6 Snake (Parts)
D7 Tiger (PArts)
D8 Horse (Parts) <= it seems that Joymax merge it with Pegasus... wings (prot)...
D9 Pig (PArts) <= Joymax transform it into a Boar...
D10 Ox (Parts)

Whats left are the Dog (Wolves mix?) and Monkey (I wonder what mix we going to find here... Apeman or Gorilla? or maybe KING KONG?)? for D11 and D12? [Since Joymax mentioned there will only be 12 Degrees for items]

Link to this thread: http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=652873

I know that 6D is based of Dragon and 5D is based of snake....

Just look at 5D armor and Protector the Armor has snake bone themes and the protector clearly has Snake Skin theme...

and 6D has dragons all over it everything from the helmet to the chest piece

and this is basically a repeat of everything i posted anyway :roll:

HarshCargo · Post by **HarshCargo** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:56 pm

HakubiNi wrote:I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.

Joymax never translated the game to English, it was another company which did it, They are to blame for poor translation not joymax.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:37 pm

HarshCargo wrote:
HakubiNi wrote:I would not trust Joymax's translation regarding equipment names.

Joymax never translated the game to English, it was another company which did it, They are to blame for poor translation not joymax.

yeah but JM hired them and then ok'd the translations that they gave.....so its still really JM fault

knredash · Post by **knredash** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:50 am

3D= Rooster
4D= ram/sheep
5D=Snake
6D=Dragon
7D= Moneky (didn't know that before)
8D=Horse
9D=Boar
10D=Ox

U have monkey for yr 7D, after some fast compliation, taht is a mistake, Tiger is D7 theme. :wink:

Anyway, doesnt matter much, I only thinking of some KING KONG outfit for D12 Armour (most probably) and furry (read: HAIRY) D12 Garments for the chinese... that would be awesome :twisted:

Tokughavita · Post by **Tokughavita** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:29 am

s0017 wrote:I still think 6D and 5D armors both represent the snake. Python Armor, Hard Scale armor.

hard scale = dragon scale imo.