Why do Euro Characters SUCK at PVP!

Colb · Post by **Colb** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:43 pm

I'm level 73 with two sun pieces of garment. I'm INT hybrid.

A level 61 pure INT wizard in NPC white gear using life control nuked me for 4k - 3k. He nuked a level 69 wearing full SOS for 9k.

Keep in mind this is all with +0 white gear. Could you imagine a level 80 with full blue pimped out +6 gear? Jesus he would wreak havoc on us.

Saberdude · Post by **Saberdude** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:24 pm

Euro > china

you know why?

Because Euro is Waaay Over powered at higher lvls -.-"

so they made 15 sec pot delay to make things equal

Euro = china

Understand?

mastersamsam · Post by **mastersamsam** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:19 pm

chinas got the mass pot overdoes
euros got the str overdoes

Take ur pic?
It evens out in the end

No overdoes of pots, no overdoes of str=normal battle :S

Anbu · Post by **Anbu** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:20 pm

Let me cast Healing Orbit, Bless Spell and Bind Spell, then I do offering on you, lets see whos gonna lose

Amelie · Post by **Amelie** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:51 pm

Anbu wrote:Let me cast Healing Orbit, Bless Spell and Bind Spell, then I do offering on you, lets see whos gonna lose

yup.

even tho i'm 42 and i have my Offering skill, i 1 shot players of the my same level and even a 50 player in pvp.

Cant wait to get my Pure Ofering..... at lvl 80....

sleeper24 · Post by **sleeper24** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:34 pm

i hate PURE OFFERING DAMMIT and i realy hate CLERICS STaNDING IN GROUPS WHEN PVPING i can never tell who the **** one hits me DAMMIT its so annoying there just like BOOOOM and theres a huge "F" for FAILURE and i die

Amelie · Post by **Amelie** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:47 pm

sleeper24 wrote:i hate PURE OFFERING DAMMIT and i realy hate CLERICS STaNDING IN GROUPS WHEN PVPING i can never tell who the **** one hits me DAMMIT its so annoying there just like BOOOOM and theres a huge "F" for FAILURE and i die

Offering owns.

Meow · Post by **Meow** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:20 pm

1. Pot delay
2. NPC gear
3. Skill delay....?

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:01 pm

hemagoku wrote:
Cerus wrote:PvP with no pots.
PvP in group.
Group PvP with a mix of Euro and chinese.
These are all the good part.

2X str buff
2X int buff
Group healing
75% damage increase
AOE 9XX% damage
5XX phy def and 8XX mag def increase
Group invisibility
Stun
and much much more

What more do you want? Those are some serious overpower skills.
Imagine a Cleric/Barb Trader buffing hunters hunting for him. Thats awesome.

i agree ,but PvP solo is very hard especially against a chinese with tons of pots

I would not say that. I have a medium farmed rogue bard lvl 42. I was pissing the hell out of several 52+ char as I kept killing them over and over. Granted if they got a hit on me I was dead. But if I got first strike they were the ones on the ground. With the prevalence of botting pre euro most people rely on gear or lvl to kill. Not skills. Euro changes all that. Granted depending on build YMMV but if I PVPed buffed even with NPC gear I would be a real beast. Get to a safe spot and stelth up. Sneak in strike dupe someone without cape and retreat to prepare to kill the next. Done right they never know what killed them and even if they figure it out duping someone not wearing cape or putting on a mask slow them down that much more since they have to alt click.

EngravedDemon · Post by **EngravedDemon** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:12 pm

Colb wrote:I'm level 73 with two sun pieces of garment. I'm INT hybrid.

A level 61 pure INT wizard in NPC white gear using life control nuked me for 4k - 3k. He nuked a level 69 wearing full SOS for 9k.

Keep in mind this is all with +0 white gear. Could you imagine a level 80 with full blue pimped out +6 gear? Jesus he would wreak havoc on us.

Hehe Imagine a Wizard fully pimped out lvl 80... Not even sun gears, just pimped out stuff, grouped with a warrior, a bard, and a cleric... For 2 mins... With successive screen then bless spell buff and bard buffs, turning life control on, can wipe a whole field and survive...

Same with Rogues with their Patk inc/Def Sacrificing skills... Ugghh... LoL!

To add: Wizards have invisible skill, not sure what skill can detect invisible, I only know stealth... LOL! So they can actually do sneak attacks also... OMG! WTF!

Colb · Post by **Colb** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:25 pm

EngravedDemon wrote:
Colb wrote:I'm level 73 with two sun pieces of garment. I'm INT hybrid.

A level 61 pure INT wizard in NPC white gear using life control nuked me for 4k - 3k. He nuked a level 69 wearing full SOS for 9k.

Keep in mind this is all with +0 white gear. Could you imagine a level 80 with full blue pimped out +6 gear? Jesus he would wreak havoc on us.

Hehe Imagine a Wizard fully pimped out lvl 80... Not even sun gears, just pimped out stuff, grouped with a warrior, a bard, and a cleric... For 2 mins... With successive screen then bless spell buff and bard buffs, turning life control on, can wipe a whole field and survive...

Same with Rogues with their Patk inc/Def Sacrificing skills... Ugghh... LoL!

To add: Wizards have invisible skill, not sure what skill can detect invisible, I only know stealth... LOL! So they can actually do sneak attacks also... OMG! WTF!

Yeah a wizard that goes invisible with life control on can be a dangerous thing if he's got gear like most chinese do.

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:10 pm

Botted euro partying dueling:

"Wizard: man i just died why did't you heal me?
Cleric: howdo i heal?
Wizard: wtf man your cleric what do you think ur doing?
Cleric: nuking duh
Tanker: omg the cleric is a nub and wizards suck >.>
Wizard: wth and you didnt tank there, thats what your were supposed to do
Tanker: im here to deal damage u idiot
Cleric: man ur so noobs -_- im leaving"

...yay for retarded bots.

boast · Post by **boast** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:28 pm

EngravedDemon wrote:
To add: Wizards have invisible skill, not sure what skill can detect invisible, I only know stealth... LOL! So they can actually do sneak attacks also... OMG! WTF!

I thought the skilled said once you move, it ends.

5581 · Post by **5581** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:16 am

boast wrote:
EngravedDemon wrote:
To add: Wizards have invisible skill, not sure what skill can detect invisible, I only know stealth... LOL! So they can actually do sneak attacks also... OMG! WTF!

I thought the skilled said once you move, it ends.

once you cast only the skill end, move wont end, cos i saw a clip that a wizard move with invi, and if invi cant move what is the point of invi? people see you disappear and know you at the same place? =.=" what for?

nycxfool · Post by **nycxfool** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:20 am

.... im a lvl61 wizard and bard. if i have a cleric another bard and a warrior (optional) backing me up, i can rape lvl70 glaivers. GG

heres my stats as of now:

true my HP sucks, but if i pull off the first attack, then i can 1 shot just about anyone my own lvl
i also have the bless spell from my clerics and the directly absorbtion from bards and physical fence.
physical fence + guard tambour + earth fence = almost 100% physical absorbtion.

and 2.1k magical attack... thats what most lvl72+ chinese pure ints have
and i have 0 int on any of my gear and using a complete NPC 0% set.

Cerus · Post by **Cerus** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:38 am

Do not forget the fact that euro and chinese can team together.
Its not exactly chinese vs euro.
Its what you build vs what others build.
What your team has vs what other team has.
If you think euro is overpowered, just go and make an euro char.
Fair?

vacacucabina · Post by **vacacucabina** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:37 pm

EUROPEAN WILL OWN YOU AT WAR!
try pvping with two handed swords in party autoshare both buffuing themselves
euorpe is about team work!

RichardDawkins12 · Post by **RichardDawkins12** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:24 pm

nycxfool wrote:.... im a lvl61 wizard and bard. if i have a cleric another bard and a warrior (optional) backing me up, i can rape lvl70 glaivers. GG

heres my stats as of now:

true my HP sucks, but if i pull off the first attack, then i can 1 shot just about anyone my own lvl
i also have the bless spell from my clerics and the directly absorbtion from bards and physical fence.
physical fence + guard tambour + earth fence = almost 100% physical absorbtion.

and 2.1k magical attack... thats what most lvl72+ chinese pure ints have
and i have 0 int on any of my gear and using a complete NPC 0% set.

ur not special this game is balanced. stfu

s0017 · Post by **s0017** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:51 pm

Me and a guildy tried to test out PvP yesterday. He healed me while I tanked a lvl 41 Blader, lvl 38 Glaiver, and lvl 32 Glaiver. I ended up killing the glaivers, but that blader was a bit too high for me i guess lol. I'm only lvl 36 and with a lvl 28 cleric healing me, thats just ALMOST enough to kill them all. Remember the fact that 2H warriors my level have about 4 skills, so yes, Euro is DEFINATELY better for a team play. Otherwise, the lvl 41 blader kinda raped me really fast.

boast · Post by **boast** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:13 pm

are you sure 8 chinese nukers vs a euro party, that euro wins? I just dont see it.

nycxfool · Post by **nycxfool** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:29 pm

RichardDawkins12 wrote:
nycxfool wrote:.... im a lvl61 wizard and bard. if i have a cleric another bard and a warrior (optional) backing me up, i can rape lvl70 glaivers. GG.

ur not special this game is balanced. stfu

who the hell are you

139022 · Post by **139022** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:38 pm

euro characters do suck, i beat a a rogue 11 lvls higher than me easily.

iNunoPT · Post by **iNunoPT** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:41 pm

Why do Euro Characters SUCK at PVP?

cuz they are made to play in party, even in pvp, thats why the potion delay and everything.

Valkorn · Post by **Valkorn** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:24 pm

If you really want to own some1 in pvp.. i suggest, use zerk !

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:00 pm

lol still talking about european chars fighting like chinese chars?

all i can say is rofl

euro pvp = 1 hit most people your lvl, but the moment some 1 beats you oO euros automatically suck at PvP OR solo grind the whole game die alot bitch and whine, then PvP, still using a chinese mentality and of course get owned. angry maybe a little confused (i wonder why) you ask why do euros suck at PvP

china = kill every low lvl euro you see until you end up getting murder cause you 1 hit a duplicate rogue, then whine about it OR get 1 hit by almost every euro you bump into, then whine about euros being overpowered. angry maybe a little confused (i wonder why) you ask why are chinese so weak oO

yep i guess that sums it up.

realy euros dont suck at PvP niether do chinese
its all about preferance and personal experiance ig.
if you think the race your using sucks, then switch.
if you dont want to switch yet still want to maintain your stance, that the current race your using sucks,....

then your an idiot

^ um i think that sums it up