Snow Shield = Victory of the pure ints ?

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:07 pm

what lvl are you ?O.o

caseyd4 · Post by **caseyd4** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:09 pm

39, So my char actually improves with the skills il gain

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:12 pm

lol, you will find out its much much harder to beat anybody on 7x, all got pimped stuff and everibody is farmed and your weapon is only lvl 72

caseyd4 · Post by **caseyd4** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:14 pm

LOL im not farmed and im beating lvl 46 nukers

, Lets face it INTS are weak and if your new saviour mana shield is used by others it negates its effect just like bows using Shadow Walk

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:19 pm

okay your char is the best and beats anybody easely, i guess i delete mines since the battle is already done on paper :oops:

caseyd4 · Post by **caseyd4** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:29 pm

lol Im not saying mines better, you'll probably make two int nukers in the time it takes me to make my HYB just look at how much i have to farm, TBH thats the sign of a better char, more time spent of course it will be better no matter what build, I just find nukers tend to be too 1 dimensional

srfer · Post by **srfer** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:31 pm

caseyd4 wrote:HYB BOW = death for nukers

on the hybrid subject, my friend is 1:1 blader, 85% phy, 85% mag, he owns.

i wont tell u the name, but hes a few level away from cap

sulfurio · Post by **sulfurio** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:43 pm

guys i really dont know what game are you playng , but the reality is that nukers still die ( im talking of regular gear ++ and weapon ++ not suns) . Im a lvl 80 glavier and nukers cant kill me at all , and when them mana shield time is over they die , game over .
Stop with bullshiat, nukers are not supposed to win in a pvp battle and will never be the best for pvp. But again im not talking of sun owners , thats another story...

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:29 pm

caseyd4 wrote:LOL im not farmed and im beating lvl 46 nukers , Lets face it INTS are weak and if your new saviour mana shield is used by others it negates its effect just like bows using Shadow Walk

Pure ints are weak? At 78 I could tank a pure str glaiver my lvl easily. And im in garms -_-. Not to mention they are in garms too, giving them a distinct advantage and I can still kill them. At high lvls, int can tank! I usually only die from crits. Mana shield just made it so I can tank multiple ppl.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:38 pm

ok to all people saying ''I'll kb/ kd/ stun until the shield go off...''

IF A INT CAN'T KILL YOU IN 2 MINUTE HE WONT STAND THERE

lol <_<

and pure str using mana shield aint really a problem cause if you hit them hard enough they will miss mana to use skill wich mean no stun/kd/kb wich mean no danger for you nd time to put ton of damage

hootsh · Post by **hootsh** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:42 pm

shoto wrote:its true...i really wanted fire but now i'll prolly drop it for ice

Thats exactly what i did

...i was like man...fire was so fun =/ but its just much more logical that i pick ice now since i'm pure INT..thank God i did that at 2x though before its too late.

reddragonz · Post by **reddragonz** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:22 pm

Why stay out after 2 mins? When the times is up, whats wrong with safe zone waiting for it to recharge. So you couldnt kill him in the 2 mins, But a int should have made him use 3x the amount of red pots.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:56 pm

I know Fudge is 6x and hasn't experienced lvl 80 capped / farmed pvp yet. But what about you soxdrop?

Because I can assure you bows are nothing near to 'invincible' 'unkillable' 'the best'. They are simply balanced now.

And whats this bullshit with 'lightning chain' ? Which self-respective nuker is going to pull out that chain in pvp.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:07 pm

[quote="Crumpets"]I know Fudge is 6x and hasn't experienced lvl 80 capped / farmed pvp yet. But what about you soxdrop?

Because I can assure you bows are nothing near to 'invincible' 'unkillable' 'the best'. They are simply balanced now.

And whats this bullshit with 'lightning chain' ? Which self-respective nuker is going to pull out that chain in pvp.[/quote

wizard ninja? :shock:

Glavie's Girl · Post by **Glavie's Girl** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:16 pm

Crumpets wrote:And whats this bullshit with 'lightning chain' ? Which self-respective nuker is going to pull out that chain in pvp.

Lighting chain unlike all prevous chains does a few status effects. This skill I think will benifit the hybrid swords more then the pures. Does the current pills cure the status's of the lighting chain? oO

hitman47 · Post by **hitman47** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:18 pm

Glavie's Girl wrote:
Crumpets wrote:And whats this bullshit with 'lightning chain' ? Which self-respective nuker is going to pull out that chain in pvp.

Lighting chain unlike all prevous chains does a few status effects. This skill I think will benifit the hybrid swords more then the pures. Does the current pills cure the status's of the lighting chain? oO

only the new pills does (( the 50 of them worth 1 million

))

and they also have cool down time :roll:

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:34 pm

ligthning chain makes you bleed lowers magical,physical defence and damage, so your nuke will do some serious damage

new pills cure it but they can be only used every 20 sec and cost 20k a piece, i think those even work against stuning xD

anyway i am lvl 77 and can beat lvl 80 str glavies with 7 gap

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:36 pm

Sounds like it makes ints more durable, but not invincible. Bear in mind that it's all respective, so with future updates, Fire tree will get increased fire protection, Ice will get increased mana shield, and everyone will get more powerful weapons and skills. All in all, everyone's still on the same playing field.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:04 pm

justaskphil wrote:Sounds like it makes ints more durable, but not invincible. Bear in mind that it's all respective, so with future updates, Fire tree will get increased fire protection, Ice will get increased mana shield, and everyone will get more powerful weapons and skills. All in all, everyone's still on the same playing field.

Thanks. Someone finally talks some sense.

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:09 pm

Crumpets wrote:I know Fudge is 6x and hasn't experienced lvl 80 capped / farmed pvp yet. But what about you soxdrop?

Because I can assure you bows are nothing near to 'invincible' 'unkillable' 'the best'. They are simply balanced now.

And whats this bullshit with 'lightning chain' ? Which self-respective nuker is going to pull out that chain in pvp.

i am

it has many powerful status effects

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:49 pm

Disconn3cted wrote:
i am

it has many powerful status effects

Meh my fault, I should have stated Pure ints. Hybrid.. hell go ahead I never played a lvl 80 hyb sword at 80 cap so I have no clue.

An experienced pure int would not whip out that light chain, seriously that's like a glaive switching to a bow to make a stun look better. I mean lol.

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:35 pm

until you haven't see in don't criticise it -.- love these people, they know everything about the game

during a longer battle it can make many sense

Glavie's Girl · Post by **Glavie's Girl** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:26 pm

With the new skill updates everyone is doing more. Ints are more durable with the mana shield, bladers now have an awsome chain, bows finialy get knockback, and glaviers get that new soul spear(have you seen that crit? like omfg). Everyone got something, this update made all the builds not so cookie cutter anymore.

destructionmama · Post by **destructionmama** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:48 pm

Glavie's Girl wrote:With the new skill updates everyone is doing more. Ints are more durable with the mana shield, bladers now have an awsome chain, bows finialy get knockback, and glaviers get that new soul spear(have you seen that crit? like omfg). Everyone got something, this update made all the builds not so cookie cutter anymore.

Well said

Actually so far I don't see things too one sided yet in the new update. Which is good

when everyone become stronger = its really no difference.

I really appreciate JM for adding the Mana Shield + Kb and stun for bows, it just add more fun to pvp, and now you gotta think a little when you fight

I am a hybrid s/s, I don't think I'll take mana shield, since I already have lower damage, but might think about getting the first book maxed, just for tanking party mobs (those guys are scary)

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:14 pm

I cant kill a pure int my level when he is using the snow shield, however if I use my kb arrow on the right time, he cant kill me either. Unless he uses the knockdown & stab moves and I cant pw away soon enough to pot when I get up, then I am done..

If the snow shield is over and they dont run to safe zone they usually tend to die. But that is if I crit.

Every build indeed got some advantages, I just dislike it when nukers run to safe zone after there snow shield is over. When I run to safe zone when they use snow shield I am a fecking retard etc etc and need to learn how to play the game. Then when I come out and use my knockback arrow all the time I am still a weak retard who doenst know how to play the game. And finally when there snow shield is over and they run to safe zone and I ask them to come out, I again need to learn how to play the game cause offcourse every well thinking int nuker doesnt come out when he has no snow shield.

Really makes me wonder where they where before the update.

Offcourse there are some nice nukers who dont mind staying out and either getting beaten or beat me.

Glavie's Girl · Post by **Glavie's Girl** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:17 pm

Tanking party mobs is why I got mana shield as well. but I maxed the first book and got the first lvl of the second book, and then the mp passive increase, that is all I have from that tree, and it will stay there. but then again I grind on pegs with glavie, and I am lvl 53 rofl. (with no sun stuff either, the power of a fully farmed charcter.

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destructionmama · Post by **destructionmama** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:32 pm

I actually have a question for you glavie grl,

Since the 100 cap is comming hopefully soon or in the near future, what are your plans at the cap? de level ice for other trees? or still stay 1st level second book for mana shield? because delvling at least 30 levels of a tree can kill, exspecially when you don't ahve silk XD

And that's the main reason I havn't adding the mana Shield. I am still debating whether I should add it just for tanking party mops for the time being?

thx thx

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:43 pm

destructionmama wrote:I actually have a question for you glavie grl,

Since the 100 cap is comming hopefully soon or in the near future, what are your plans at the cap? de level ice for other trees? or still stay 1st level second book for mana shield? because delvling at least 30 levels of a tree can kill, exspecially when you don't ahve silk XD

And that's the main reason I havn't adding the mana Shield. I am still debating whether I should add it just for tanking party mops for the time being?

thx thx

Ksro is getting the 100 cap soon. We wont be getting it for a VERY long time. We havent even gotten the 90 cap yet

sheeplol5 · Post by **sheeplol5** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:52 pm

Bobby_Rock wrote:Bowmen will be their weakness. With all the knockbacks, criticals, ect, they will keep them at bay long enough for it to wear off, then they're screwed.

Ect

your sayin that a bowman is there weakness right?....ever considered a pure int as a bowman?

destructionmama · Post by **destructionmama** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:55 pm

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Ksro is getting the 100 cap soon. We wont be getting it for a VERY long time. We havent even gotten the 90 cap yet

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Just like to plan ahead, because I hate doing Curse hearts quest

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