alchemy with the premium ticket

wabbers · Post by **wabbers** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:03 am

i know it say 5% better chance , has anybody noticed this making a difference for them at all though?

139022 · Post by **139022** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:04 am

nope not me, i always fail when i dont pray to allah ^^

wabbers · Post by **wabbers** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:05 am

maybe u facing the wrong direction or something

Gusy · Post by **Gusy** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:06 am

They could be lying :shock:

tedtwilliger · Post by **tedtwilliger** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:08 am

Gusy wrote:They could be lying

Despite the clear fact that it is illegal to do so, it could be. It is quite hard for a normal user to measure luck.

lennonn · Post by **lennonn** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:19 am

Hummm i have my own tought about this lucky stuff...
U have like 50% of getting it done and 50% of fail... with lucky powder
55% and 45% same for Lucky on equip
60% - 40%
and for premmium make 65% - 35%

it to improve a item to +1
And -5% to next lvl and after +6 it is 10% i guess xp
letting u 5% of getting it to +9 ;p

xD
heheheh xD Completely my toughts... xD

Yours,
Len :love:

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:21 am

joymax lies, it doesnt work.
and those who say otherwise, **** that.

wabbers · Post by **wabbers** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:32 am

lennonn wrote:Hummm i have my own tought about this lucky stuff...
U have like 50% of getting it done and 50% of fail... with lucky powder
55% and 45% same for Lucky on equip
60% - 40%
and for premmium make 65% - 35%

it to improve a item to +1
And -5% to next lvl and after +6 it is 10% i guess xp
letting u 5% of getting it to +9 ;p

xD
heheheh xD Completely my toughts... xD

Yours,
Len

good thoughts. I suck at math, but wish I knew more about probability... I know the basic stuff like if you have a 1/2 chance to get heads or tails than say you want head 3 times in a row than its a 1/6 chance :shock:

we dont know the actual %'s behind the alchemy but if you figure 1/2 as just "fail" or "success" and since with powder +1 is gaurenteed than

1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2* 1/2 = 1/8 chance for +5 ? is that seem right?

deep.in · Post by **deep.in** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:36 am

**** PT. I bought it. Then i decided to increase my blades crit. Wasted 27 stones, and now my crit is 1. And, the highest crit i got was 4

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:01 pm

nope 5% if an extermely small amount even with the stat bonus's it gives for example

if you hit 4k with that extra 5% dmg you would hit 4.2k and its an even smaller amount for less dmg

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:37 pm

lmao, its only 5 % ( 1/20), what u expect, that everything will work, 5 % doesnt even f*cking matters

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:42 pm

heroo wrote:lmao, its only 5 % ( 1/20), what u expect, that everything will work, 5 % doesnt even f*cking matters

+1... it's true, not a word more

uBeR · Post by **uBeR** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:12 pm

tedtwilliger wrote:
Gusy wrote:They could be lying

Despite the clear fact that it is illegal to do so, it could be. It is quite hard for a normal user to measure luck.

You know South Korean law?

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:32 pm

deep.in wrote:**** PT. I bought it. Then i decided to increase my blades crit. Wasted 27 stones, and now my crit is 1. And, the highest crit i got was 4

Seems like alchemy success runs in a cycle for me - I'm able to do some nice changes after several tries, but then can also get caught in a crappy pattern where don't get any good results. If you have a bad pattern going (especially with the ruby stones, they suxors) - maybe try breaking that pattern by letting someone else try alchemy on it for a couple of times and see what happens. If it doesn't work for them, try it again - hopefully that will get it to work. Law of averages after that many stones says you have to get a decent result eventually. :banghead:

tranceport- · Post by **tranceport-** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:51 pm

just pure luck. either you're on premium or not.

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:02 pm

Just buy full blue equips? Now that's a thought

zZh4ku · Post by **zZh4ku** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:08 pm

i got str 5 int5 hp400 on garment in 1 try right after i bought premium, idk if it was the premium ticket or just luck but,, later on i was not really lucky on alchemy -.-

i doubt premium ticket helps much

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:13 pm

+5% to such a low chance already isn't gonna make too much of a difference.

At least not $15-20 worth lol.

Itonami · Post by **Itonami** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:45 pm

My 7D and 8D garm set all went to +4 first shot with lucky powders (every piece) and my 60 blade went to +7 with no astral or immortal.

I think its made a difference for me

Sharp324 · Post by **Sharp324** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:50 pm

uBeR wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:
Gusy wrote:They could be lying

Despite the clear fact that it is illegal to do so, it could be. It is quite hard for a normal user to measure luck.
You know South Korean law?

Laws can carry to the country being marketed too. But seriously its just 5% it might give you a couple +s but its not a sure thing

_Shinigami_ · Post by **_Shinigami_** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:03 pm

well for the most part the premium does let u get in the servers 1st try and the Str and Int increase

Suppaman · Post by **Suppaman** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:06 pm

I just avoid alchemy in general and buy + weapons from people who have the gods on their side.

Soulhaitetsu · Post by **Soulhaitetsu** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:20 pm

Definitely not worth $15-$20 for crappy 1 in 20 chance... wth is that?

If they really wanted to be pulling in the punters to buy their glorious PTs... make it something decent like 1 in 4... +25% chance.

@Suppaman...

Alchemy is key if you haven't got alot of cash... but yeah, I get what you're saying: if your luck stat is crap... just don't try.

Suppaman · Post by **Suppaman** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:28 pm

lol yeah thats true, but I made a lot of money selling my gold dragon flag and some low level SOS gear. Still ain't Bill Gates rich, but I was rich enough to buy an SOS glavie that was perfect for me >__>