PVP rogue daggers or crossbow

bebrazz · Post by **bebrazz** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:06 pm

can anyone say...
daggers
or
crossbow

CobbZ · Post by **CobbZ** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:39 pm

Matter of taste.

locksmith · Post by **locksmith** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:55 pm

use bolth,

When u are in a party and have tankers use crossbow. But if u only have 1 tanker or none use dagger. The damage between them is not very significant "at low lvl anyway" And they are bolth in same tree so not hard to get bolth. And eventually u should be able to learn the tactics of a rouge and hit at long range and when they charge u stealth up and switch to daggers and get ready for battle "in theory anyway" the damage buff for them sounds really nice "75%" but remember u also lose 75% defence.

But I just tried out the mask's and that is funny.
But u cant use your skills when using it so no Xbow or dagger just straight attack only "Tested only with lvl 1 Euro mob"

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:59 pm

Both applying to each situation of combat

Biscuit · Post by **Biscuit** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:09 pm

locksmith wrote:[...]

hit at long range and when they charge u stealth up and switch to daggers and get ready for battle "in theory anyway"

[...]

If stealth works the same way in PVP as in PVM it might go like this:

1. You charge and fire your strongest crossbow attack
2. You hit your "Stealth" shortkey
3. Nothing happens
4. You hit the same key again
5. Nothing happens
6. You read the message telling you, that you can't use that particular skill in "battle"
7. You need to change your plan.

At least thats the experience from the lower version of the skill.

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:13 pm

You know that stuff of cannot use this item in battle?, the 30 seconds to use the item?, i guess it's like that...

In stealth when you attack someone you turn visible :roll:

Biscuit · Post by **Biscuit** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:15 pm

fasd wrote:You know that stuff of cannot use this item in battle?, the 30 seconds to use the item?, i guess it's like that...

In stealth when you attack someone you turn visible

I guess it's similar to summoning your transport after a battle, only more annoying.

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:19 pm

Yes something like that, i'm still trying to discover 4 things:

-Wolf goes invisible including your transport?
-Aren't there ways to make it invisible more than 1m?
-How much speed decreases?
-What's the cooldown of stealth?

Jackalaya · Post by **Jackalaya** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:51 am

Crossbow!! Pwn from far away, run fast, the pwn some more

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:11 am

Go with what you like. Both weapons have the same npc stats so damage is not an issue. They both have their pros and cons also.

Sanctified · Post by **Sanctified** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:59 am

You need to put both up there...Cuz I am duel crossbow and daggers.

bebrazz · Post by **bebrazz** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:48 am

ok... so i think i will use both weapons...

nofearz · Post by **nofearz** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:14 am

Dagger, fast hit great damage and poison.

Chromis · Post by **Chromis** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:40 pm

xbow:

Stealth
Go far far away
Use skill that increase dmg by 75% at cost of 50% health
Attack using a lot of knockdown skills
If (s)he gets close to you, just stealth and run in opposite direction. (S)he will never get to touch you if you are fast enough.

(xbox has HUGE range)

Biscuit · Post by **Biscuit** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:58 pm

fasd wrote:Yes something like that, i'm still trying to discover 4 things:

[...]
-Aren't there ways to make it invisible more than 1m?
-How much speed decreases?
-What's the cooldown of stealth?

1. "Stealth extension" skill.

I just took a quick look at the rest:

2. Cooldown

- "Stealth": 20 seconds
- "Scud": 120 Seconds

3. Walking speed (not horribly accurate)

- Normal running: ~5m per second
- Basic "Stealth": ~2.5m per second

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:02 pm

Sounds good =DD, but how much stealth extension hads to time?

Apocalypse57 · Post by **Apocalypse57** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:40 pm

you cant even stealth while in combat??

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:55 pm

Apocalypse57 wrote:you cant even stealth while in combat??

No, The effect goes off in the moment you start fighting

San · Post by **San** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:45 pm

Chromis wrote:xbow:

Stealth
Go far far away
Use skill that increase dmg by 75% at cost of 50% health
Attack using a lot of knockdown skills
If (s)he gets close to you, just stealth and run in opposite direction. (S)he will never get to touch you if you are fast enough.

(xbox has HUGE range)

lol

Sanctified · Post by **Sanctified** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:03 pm

Yeah I cant wait its going to be so awesome!

CHIPS · Post by **CHIPS** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:47 am

Crossbow for working in a group. This way you do not need to chase your target around.

jdouma1992 · Post by **jdouma1992** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:01 am

Still, what sub class for rogue, we have a lot of posts for it, but no reall answer. i really dont think warrior would work with rogue, but i cant decide wether i should do cleric or bard.

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:00 pm

jdouma1992 wrote:Still, what sub class for rogue, we have a lot of posts for it, but no reall answer. i really dont think warrior would work with rogue, but i cant decide wether i should do cleric or bard.

Try to look for benefits, i think i won't put a sub at least in the beggining until i find a perfect sub for rogue >.>

Biscuit · Post by **Biscuit** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:14 pm

jdouma1992 wrote:[...]

i really dont think warrior would work with rogue, but i cant decide wether i should do cleric or bard.

Why, Sir?

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