Why can we talk about pk2editor, but not bot software?

E40 · Post by **E40** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:48 pm

Why can we talk in detail how to pk2 with the hex editor but now bot software? Both situations require changing code of the software that is not allowed by JM. It seems that if you can talk about one you should be able to talk about the other.
What is the differnece? :oops:

im_a_bot · Post by **im_a_bot** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:49 pm

anything that chainges the original download of silkroad will get all your account s banned

Sharp324 · Post by **Sharp324** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:50 pm

Bots directly affect the client

im_a_bot · Post by **im_a_bot** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:51 pm

oops double posted

_Shinigami_ · Post by **_Shinigami_** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:58 pm

bots are not allowed and this is kinda supporting bots.

which is against the Forum Rules.

Quyxz · Post by **Quyxz** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:12 pm

With botting you destroy the 'smooth' gaming experience from other players. With PK2-editting, you don't hurt anyone, except of yourself if you destroy your client.

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:12 pm

-ppl using bots screwing up gameplay for everyone.
-ppl pk2 editing changing the look only at their own pc, it's not changing anything anywhere else.

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:15 pm

You don't see a difference between visual changes only to you and cheating in the game efecting everyone? >.>.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:17 pm

Didnt u notice that bot is a software/program that we talk about everyday?
"mass banning bots notice...."
"bots destroy the game..."
"omfg u botter..."
etc...

sheeplol5 · Post by **sheeplol5** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:18 pm

bot = againts rules ingame
pk2 = not againts rules ingame

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:30 pm

pk2 editing is against the rules too...
but it doesn't effect others.

StealMySoda · Post by **StealMySoda** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:43 pm

This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

non ego man · Post by **non ego man** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:45 pm

E40 wrote:Why can we talk in detail how to pk2 with the hex editor but now bot software?

C'mon dude. If I take your question at face value, either you don't know what a bot is or you're not a very smart person, so I'll assume you were trying to make a different point and using this question as a rhetorical device. So what was the point you were trying to make?

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:47 pm

pk2 editing is modifying the game files which is against the rules, and morningdew has said it will get you banned.

Didn't someone post a topic a while ago about getting banned for it too, I think theres enough evidence to tell whether it is or not.

sheeplol5 · Post by **sheeplol5** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:48 pm

sama98b wrote:pk2 editing is against the rules too...
but it doesn't effect others.

ok thanks

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:13 pm

StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

DrunkiMunki · Post by **DrunkiMunki** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:15 pm

owned.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:19 pm

nightbloom wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif

Haha

that screen shot.

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:27 pm

idk, but that looks pretty official. The guy got the 100 year ban hammer.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:53 pm

nightbloom wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal

Belgarath · Post by **Belgarath** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:57 pm

Since when has Joymax followed their own ToS? Last I heard, they could ban you for spamming chat. They probably havent even updated the ToS since Beta.

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:11 pm

Belgarath wrote:Since when has Joymax followed their own ToS? Last I heard, they could ban you for spamming chat.

I don't blame them.

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:16 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif

She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal

LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.

Fly · Post by **Fly** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:28 pm

pwned? yes? no? i think so

gg

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:47 pm

nightbloom wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif

She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal

LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.

It's not because JM and MD said that it's illegal then it's illegal.

What is "illegal"? "Illegal" stands for "not legal" or "against the law".
What is "law"? "Law" here is the ToS. As long as pk editing is not included in the ToS, then it's not considered as a law.

Sue them, u'll get a lot of $$$

Belgarath · Post by **Belgarath** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:48 pm

Skitsefrenik wrote:
Belgarath wrote:Since when has Joymax followed their own ToS? Last I heard, they could ban you for spamming chat.

I don't blame them.

Not blaming them for not following their ridiculous ToS or just not blaming them at all?

PS: Fly, check you PMs

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:12 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif

She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal

LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.

It's not because JM and MD said that it's illegal then it's illegal.

What is "illegal"? "Illegal" stands for "not legal" or "against the law".
What is "law"? "Law" here is the ToS. As long as pk editing is not included in the ToS, then it's not considered as a law.

Sue them, u'll get a lot of $$$

Actually no, because the PK2 file is technically part of the "client" because when you click on "download client" you are not only getting the .exe that says client, you are getting the whole file identified as "client" which inclued the pk2 file. Altering the client, which the PK2 file is a part of, is illegal.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:27 pm

nightbloom wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
nightbloom wrote:
StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

Wrong...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/n ... galpk2.gif

She said it's illegal, but it doesnt violate any rule in Term of Policy and Use so it's not illegal

LOL It's not? Tell that to the guy that got banned for 100 years. Tell morningdew and JM also while you are at it because "PK2 editing is illegal" seems like they pretty much think it is.

It's not because JM and MD said that it's illegal then it's illegal.

What is "illegal"? "Illegal" stands for "not legal" or "against the law".
What is "law"? "Law" here is the ToS. As long as pk editing is not included in the ToS, then it's not considered as a law.

Sue them, u'll get a lot of $$$

Actually no, because the PK2 file is technically part of the "client" because when you click on "download client" you are not only getting the .exe that says client, you are getting the whole file identified as "client" which inclued the pk2 file. Altering the client, which the PK2 file is a part of, is illegal.

If u can show me an article of law which is related to altering game file is illegal then I

In sro setting folder, files data can be change in 2 ways : editing in-game or out-game (using hex). So in this case, is altering setting game file considered as illegal?

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:43 pm

altering any files is the same thing! It's against the rules, whoeve3r if its not that specific, ppl have been banned for it, and MD even said you would be, why try to risk it >.>.

Good luck trying to sue em for being banned if you get banned for altering the game files which your not supposed to do lol -.-.

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:51 pm

StealMySoda wrote:This is often a hot discussion between mods. The official word from us is.
Joymax have officially announced that botting is against the rules. Where as until they do the same with pk2 editing, we will remain neutral on it.

And why do you copy the rules from Joymax?

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