THE UPDATES:WILL BOWS PWN PVP?

[silverstorm1]

here is the link for all the new bow moves: http://portalasia2.locaweb.com.br/skill.asp?mastery=259
and BTW yes, with 5 arrow combo,the percents of stun are :0/40%/60%/40%/20%. So thats guna be almost always a stun.
also a big hit towards glavies, they r being weakend. post opinions

[Pawnage]

i didn't click the link..cus, yaya. But yes, i think bows will now do a lot better. Unfortunately, only 70+ though.

[vanom]

how reliable is that website? cuz in ksro, u can see, that the chance of knockback is 30%. it's knockback, not stun. and those two abilities dont help you to kill, but to survive. the damage of the bow skills will still remain much lower than the skills of the glaive for example. so how is bow gonna pwn? it will be useful in guild/job wars, but it will still be far away from a killing machine.

[MrFudge]

how reliable is that website? cuz in ksro, u can see, that the chance of knockback is 30%. it's knockback, not stun. and those two abilities dont help you to kill, but to survive. the damage of the bow skills will still remain much lower than the skills of the glaive for example. so how is bow gonna pwn? it will be useful in guild/job wars, but it will still be far away from a killing machine.

because anti devil and 2second stronbow (with stun) have crit increases, whereas you can keep praying for crits.

[silverstorm1]

why? BECAUSE THE NEW ANTI DEVIL HAS +35 CRIT!!!!!!!

[vanom]

the crit increases obviously does not equal with crit values on weapons. and even if you crit, you don't do that much more damage, that u can overdamage you opponent. just do some calculations. on that kopaku-site, i dont know how it's written correctly, you can have a look at the % and the damage of the bow skills. for being a killing machine, the skills don't deal enough damage.

now don't start a flame war again. since the update is not that far away, we will see the result in a few weeks lately.

[SunDance]

if u looked around the site u can see that the new BIG POINTY STICK abillities do tons of dmg:
soul spear emperor - 579-731 while the last bow skills do only 397-537..
glavie will still be the best..glavie will ALLWAYS be the best and for that i hate it..i hate it with all my heart..

[HertogJan]

I dont get it how people always think glavie poon so much :S.

Its the easiets to play build, that has stun and kb. If they dont stun or kb they are nothing. Glavie is based on luck and youre talent to jam buttons.

[vanom]

and dont forget the % of the skills. bow got 250% or was it 280% (i don't know) and 4th book soul spear got 2x 175%=350%

@HertogJan
don't you think bow relies more on luck? most obvious hint is the increase of crit probability. the whole pvp is about luck, whether u crit, kd, kb or get stunned. also finding sox parts or even tablets to improve your gears are luck

and what do you think will archer do? use strong bow to hope it stuns and crits, use arrow combo to hope it kb and use anti devil to hope it crits. they need much more luck than glaives do, cuz archer have lower damage outcome.

[criticalss]

and dont forget the % of the skills. bow got 250% or was it 280% (i don't know) and 4th book soul spear got 2x 175%=350%

@HertogJan
don't you think bow relies more on luck? most obvious hint is the increase of crit probability. the whole pvp is about luck, whether u crit, kd, kb or get stunned. also finding sox parts or even tablets to improve your gears are luck

and what do you think will archer do? use strong bow to hope it stuns and crits, use arrow combo to hope it kb and use anti devil to hope it crits. they need much more luck than glaives do, cuz archer have lower damage outcome.

they're damage is high trust me. the bows of the future are int hybrid and str hybrid. and the existing full strs have insane weapons, when they reach 50 crit rate they will pwn

[sculi]

bow have hughe dmg , despite fact that anti is only 250% and have +35 so unlike glavies you are quit sure of crit , vanom you said also that book 4th soul have 350% , strong bow have also 350% have stun , also +10 crit and range , bow depends on range and spam arrows thats crit a lot , if glavie is too close 5xarrow combo would kb him stopping his slow soul skill

[Ell]

They'll certainly do a lot better than now but "WILL THEY PWN PVP"? I doubt it.

[vanom]

They'll certainly do a lot better than now but "WILL THEY PWN PVP"? I doubt it.

you got it bro

now concerning strongbow: it's damage at lvl 80 is 423-572 with 350% and soul spear got 579-731 with 2x 175% = 350%. so the damage of glaives will still be more.

my personal opinion is that bow will do better than now, no question, cuz they'll hard to be killed with knock back. concerning stun, they only have one skills, which can stun, 25%. so they won't that much like glaive.
but i think hybrid bows will do pretty well, cuz of new mana shield.

i think we better test it, when the euro updates comes out ^^.

[sculi]

hmm it will be more interesting glavies wont be best pvp chars like they are now but all classem can make good fair fight with each other , despite items matter, you will have to use your brain to win

Ps what do you think about archer in 46 secon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw2qYyVpuQ
he used anti devil and 10k dmg than strong bow 22k crit hmm full int or light hybrid int bow gonna own ?? O_o

[SunDance]

im a str bow hybrid about 87 phy balance and glaviers can kill me easily..their dmg is pretty good and they have lots of hp so...and what does the 350% means? i allways thought the % is the time that takes to execute the attack 350%=3.5 sec..guess i was wrong?
in the end glavie will allways be the best solo pvp build..

[vanom]

the % equals the time it's needed to be cast. the longer u need to cast a skill, the more damage it does. makes sense or not? why cast a skill with 1%, when it does same damage as a skills with 350%?.

[SunDance]

Im never happy with my chars ): im allways thinking something is wrong, maybe im not strong enough..now i have a lvl 33 heavy str bower do you guys think i should stick with it?