after new skills after euro after 90 cap<

darthsithius · Post by **darthsithius** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:12 am

IMO just to start this off< I think that hybrid int is shiit unles u got fire heuksal cold and light maxed,well built and great gear. THO full INT's will pwn when using force without weapon skills and just for the heck using shield for blocking. Iunno im open minded educate me.

Ningyotsukai-san · Post by **Ningyotsukai-san** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:34 am

Well, I don't think hybrid ints are really "shit" without all of that....cold isn't really a necessity for them, seeing as they're "hybrid", meaning more hp to survive more hits than their pure int counterparts.

And about pure ints using force without weapon trees....I don't really know. There's an error with the skill, which can be cancelled like a buff...so yea:

Ex: Does force skill (forgot what it's called) then goes to nuke, they cancel, thus doing that was pretty useless....and with no weapon trees, you're just gonna sit there and nuke?....like I said, I don't really know...just have to wait and see with these new skills coming out.

But just like everyone says: Gear > Build.

CobbZ · Post by **CobbZ** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:48 am

nuking = boring.

Weapon skills make the game fun ^^

darthsithius · Post by **darthsithius** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:08 pm

U can cast vital spot therapy up to 3 times if im not mistaken the opponent can not cancel all 3 while pvp'ing U or others and U at same time most will just ignore it or cant get all 3 canceled so if u fire 1 nuke while 1 is on its good. if u fire 1 nuke and 2 lion shouts u might kill them!.

Sekkaigan · Post by **Sekkaigan** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:53 am

darthsithius wrote:U can cast vital spot therapy up to 3 times if im not mistaken the opponent can not cancel all 3 while pvp'ing U or others and U at same time most will just ignore it or cant get all 3 canceled so if u fire 1 nuke while 1 is on its good. if u fire 1 nuke and 2 lion shouts u might kill them!.

You can't cancel vital... it only lasts a few seconds

JessicaYan · Post by **JessicaYan** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:56 am

you can simply cancel vital, it acts as a negative debuff

darthsithius · Post by **darthsithius** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:01 am

negative debuff.. that sounds double negative which is positive hehe.

JessicaYan · Post by **JessicaYan** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:04 am

i mean negative buff ^_^

darthsithius · Post by **darthsithius** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:34 am

BUT iof u taek a look at the new force skills theres a new debuf apart from the parry ratio 1 which u can cast up to 3 or more times on 1 target if u cimpile all of them a nuke might do double dmg, doesnt that sound good? for pure ints..

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:47 am

At lvl 90, and lvl 90 skills, maybe.

The problem is, ints will not be able to kd/stun/kb the weapon users with just force skills so people with these skills have a huge advantage so long as they nukes can't one hit them. So if they want to get a nuke off they have to give up fire entirely. Which, in turn, leaves them open to anyone with any cold to interrupt their nukes.

Hybrids, on the other hand, will be able to give up the mana shield entirely by lvl 90, having something like 15k hp. They might be a little easier to kill, but they'll either have the mag or phys/block skills, (whichever ends up being harder to fight) which don't make up for it, and KD/stun, which do. Yes, mana shield is great, but being almost unkillable for a little bit doesn't make up for the fact that you'll likely spend that time on the ground or stunned, after which you'll get dropped like a rock.

jarrod · Post by **jarrod** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:57 am

lvl100 onwards(with new skill) int spear OWN!!!! hybrid int spear will be shit at that stage( any way at the moment they are good only up to 100)....

just wait and see...btw how many of you guys afford to wait till 100 open?

Nenhunter · Post by **Nenhunter** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:25 am

i'll play to 90, but 100? no way ><

darthsithius · Post by **darthsithius** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:56 am

this is incredibly interesting. i was totay not compring full int to hybrid,i my self love hybrid int 10 lvl int 1 str or the old school! 1str 2 int. i was more looking to compare full int to full str since the str league has gone out of league long enough.