DO YOU have 2 or more IMBUES, PLEASE HELP

[EllisD]

I'll see what i can do. I cant remember atm how far i delevelled my fire imbue.

[Sylhana]

Sry, I havnt been checking this forum as often, but if you want the calculations for damage done taking into account the char build, wpn, mastery, skill, and target defense and atk/parry ratio (+/- critical) you can message me, cause I've done it :S.

Its academic, but I like the idea that you are gathering data, kinda validating the calculations.

P.s My char has 3 imbues for different occasions, best used for fireworks display . Ice for non-immune targets, fire for max magic damage, light for kd transfer in group play.

[tomiotar]

Sry, I havnt been checking this forum as often, but if you want the calculations for damage done taking into account the char build, wpn, mastery, skill, and target defense and atk/parry ratio (+/- critical) you can message me, cause I've done it :S.

Its academic, but I like the idea that you are gathering data, kinda validating the calculations.

P.s My char has 3 imbues for different occasions, best used for fireworks display . Ice for non-immune targets, fire for max magic damage, light for kd transfer in group play.

If you have that formula I will love to see it and it will be really helpfull .


I make a graphic with the distribution of the damage with both imbues.

Fire (44 regular hits):


(I love attack rating . Ive got 7 from 44 times highest possible damage )

Ice (46 regular hits):



On Y axis you can see number of hits and on x axis you can find the damage range. So basicaly you see on "x" the damage and on "Y" how frequently I get that damage, i.e. Ive got 14 of the 44 regular hits with fire on the damage range 8000 - 8145.

With ice I had to draw 1 less columns, so the damage distribution is not that wide as when Im using fire. Moreover, the first 3 damage ranges of ice has 1 or 2 hits, so almost all the hits that I got with ice were on the higher part of my possible damage (attack rating doing his job ). But even when the damage distribution is wider with fire, the average value is higher on near 500 than with ice (6 to 7% extra damage on normal shots and 4 to 5% on crits).

[glavie]

Removed post to reduce clutter.

[mmsicis]

NUKES dont have crits
Bassicaly the hit formule is like:
normal hit [phy att x phy balance] + [mag att x mag balance] + [skill stat [phy(skill)]+[mag(imbue)]]
Crit hit 2x[phy att x phy balance] + [mag att x mag balance] + [skill stat [2xphy(skill)]+[mag(imbue)]]

SO if you nuke your dmg counts only on mag stats balance and mag skill. so you cant crit.
INT builds have low crits becouse of low phy balance. All phy pwr on skils and yourself is reduced becouse of the low phy balance.
THank you. i hope you all understand the system.

[glavie]

Yes I undersand mmsicis exactly what you are saying. But the data seems to say something very different.

We need a pure strength character test at around level 54, or a int character to test around 77 to prove it one way or another.

[MrFudge]

Yes I undersand mmsicis exactly what you are saying. But the data seems to say something very different.

We need a pure strength character test at around level 54, or a int character to test around 77 to prove it one way or another.

i wouldve done the test at 54 but im lvl 63 now.

ill do it at lvl 64 to help you guys out, testing fire vs ice on pure str bow.

[LadyB]

you can get two imbues with this amount of sp =]

[miagye]

Glavie, my nick is miagye anyway ill collect my data with ice and light imbues later, cuz i've drop fire, ofcourse if u need it. cuz u hawe the same built as mine.

[fena]

<Insane picture here>

you can get two imbues with this amount of sp =]

OMFG, LadyB. I'm hoping, praying that that's an edit?

<-- kinda stupid at times.

[glavie]

Glavie, my nick is miagye anyway ill collect my data with ice and light imbues later, cuz i've drop fire, ofcourse if u need it. cuz u hawe the same built as mine.

I fixed your name

And yeah if you could get your data with the new imbues that would be great. Let me know everything that has changed since the last test. bow, buffs, character level etc.
Also even though I already have the cold data, could you test both to verify that nothing has changed.


@MR.Fudge
I look forward to you turning 64. I am looking forward to your test results.
I had no idea there were so many fire ice bowers out there.

[glavie]

Sorry I took so long to update the thread take a look at the first post.

Please ask questions or give suggestions on how to make it easier to understand.


We really need some data on pure str criticals.
I would think some data on different imbues with nukes would be pretty interesting as well.

[RichardDawkins12]

Nicely done +10


To answer the crit dmg.

"Crtical damage comes from the physical attack damage x2 + imbue dmg"

[RichardDawkins12]

Nicely done +10


To answer the crit dmg.

"Crtical damage comes from the physical attack damage x2 + imbue dmg"

[miagye]

nice glavie if u still need my data, I could make it with cold and light imbues this weak.. so write me if u need it

P.S. nice double post..

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

this is a really good idea thanks for showing me this, i use fire anyway hehe

[Barotix]

this is a really good idea thanks for showing me this, i use fire anyway hehe

-_- OLD POST!!!

[TenKai]

nvm... (notices post date) sry.

[glavie]

don't worry about the fact that its an old post

I still need data on pure str builds. Well thanks for the free bump.

MIAGYE
Thanks I think we are okay on hybrid information, since are data matched up so well. We kinda verified that we both did things correctly.