Hacked

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:29 am

Soldier_Y, a union member and leader of WhiteLotus, bought my wolf, Saberath, for me from a stall for 45m.

tedo, currently leader of BH and one of my most trusted officers, bought one of my rings for 35m.

the BHA and some friends all contributed over 300m for me to buy back my spear for 299m. nightbloom donated 150m and WitchCraft donated 57m. Various members of both halves of the BHA union donated the balance totalling over 330m.

i have regained the two most valuable things to me, my wolf and my spear, as well as a few other pieces of gear. i can't express how grateful i am to my BHA family and my friends. your kindness is way more than anyone could hope for and certainly more than i expected. thank you all.

i emailed JM regarding my secret answer. now i wait.

killerkong · Post by **killerkong** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:47 am

im glad you got your stuff back. Ive been apart of these forums for awhile now...but i rarely post when needed, and sometimes to speak my mind. seeing your videos...and willingness to help others with your hybrid build and seeing you level up through my time here, im glad you have just a close bond with your union and your friends here in SRF. I hope things only get better from here on out and that you change that damn pw of yours.

-IeatNoobs -cSro/Div2
-Killerkong -iSro/Troy

Silver0 · Post by **Silver0** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:01 am

can you just dump you character the ID is out and it would be a shame for it 2 be rehacked

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:05 am

lol you lvl a nearly lvl 80 character without bots, get hacked and see if you wanna just forget it.

If he did get keylogged and takes care of it, just be more careful and he should be fine.

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:35 pm

went on a few 5* runs w/ my guild and union last night. at least it helped me feel like i was doing something.

i dc'ed sometime during the night, and the hacker got back on my character. i logged in somewhere far from where i left her missing a few % exp and holding a lvl16 spear, which i didn't have when i went to bed. <sigh>

still no word from JM about my secret answer.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:56 pm

What fun do people see in doing this to others? Sorry but I don't understand it... :/

Hope it works out for you SG

BuddahBless · Post by **BuddahBless** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:18 pm

Alfred wrote:What fun do people see in doing this to others? Sorry but I don't understand it... :/

Hope it works out for you SG

Lol it's not for fun...it's more like greed. =D

think about it...That hacker is rich now that they bought all that stuff back from him lmao.

Blurred · Post by **Blurred** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:35 am

SG i gave tedo 5m for you... It's not much but its something. =D

Krysis · Post by **Krysis** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:40 am

ouch, joymax are so stupid.. they dont not have any care for players.

Tokughavita · Post by **Tokughavita** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:57 am

SuicideGrl wrote:went on a few 5* runs w/ my guild and union last night. at least it helped me feel like i was doing something.

i dc'ed sometime during the night, and the hacker got back on my character. i logged in somewhere far from where i left her missing a few % exp and holding a lvl16 spear, which i didn't have when i went to bed. <sigh>

still no word from JM about my secret answer.

wait you got hacked again? or thats what happened before? did you lose your spear and stuff again?

really sorry to hear that sui, you are one of my favorite members here.

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:31 am

Tokughavita wrote:
SuicideGrl wrote:went on a few 5* runs w/ my guild and union last night. at least it helped me feel like i was doing something.

i dc'ed sometime during the night, and the hacker got back on my character. i logged in somewhere far from where i left her missing a few % exp and holding a lvl16 spear, which i didn't have when i went to bed. <sigh>

still no word from JM about my secret answer.

wait you got hacked again? or thats what happened before? did you lose your spear and stuff again? :( really sorry to hear that sui, you are one of my favorite members here.

nah, still the same time. all the things i have recovered are being kept safe for me by others, so the hacker didn't get anything new.

@Blurred, yah he told me, thank you so much. I hope i am in a position to repay you soon.

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:54 am

so any news on how it was done or still just speculations?

i still have a hard time believing people get hacked that easy.

CutePoison · Post by **CutePoison** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:53 am

I havent read all pages but i just want to give u the tip to formate ur pc...if the hacker wasnt one of these script kiddies he could easily make the trojan undetected by any antivir software. Even when u upload it on virustotal/viruschief u wouldnt find anything.
And dont just delete the programm with the keylogger in it. Most of these programms copy themselves in other folders. (mostly windows or system). And then its very hard to find them.

Death2U · Post by **Death2U** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:12 am

Excuse me for my late response.... barely have any time left to go online.

SuicideGrl, sorry to hear you got hacked. It must be terrible to get hacked and lost everything you've work so hard to build, legitly. I hope you will get back on your feet soon. I will give you 500m if you want. Also let me know what gear(s) you need left so I can hook you up with 8D Sox, and also the level of the wolf you want so I'll get you one the closest to the level you requested. Let me know what specific gears you want and I will put the items/money into a mule account and PM you the login and password for you to retrieve the gold and items. Also PM me the IGN of the person that did this to you and I will see to it that he will suffer the same fate.

borat2 wrote:so any news on how it was done or still just speculations?

i still have a hard time believing people get hacked that easy.

dEreida wrote:omg, now u got hacked too. Just talked to u yesterday.... wth
I got hacked like 1 month ago and Hacker stole evrything too but dont made me murder or left dE.....
Pls send meh a Pm Suicide

deReida, A professional hacker I know broke the encryption key and hacked into the isro bot server about a couple of months ago, and I could have sworn I seen your name in that list, along with many I recognized.

Below is a couple of high levels in Xian that use(d) a bot, and their sensitive information starred out. There are currently 2,381 unique IGNs in Xian have have a record in the bot server.

<< REMOVED >>

- cin

I randomly pasted a few records from the bot server. I don't play in Xian so I don't know any of the people above. Based on my experience, there are mainly three types of botters. The first type are the people who bot hardcore and make it no secret to anyone. The second type bot only after a cap raise, then stop botting until there's another cap raise. These are the people that are normally anti-botters and take a fierce anti-botting stance in a forum to pretend to be who they are not. The third type are casual botters who only bot only if they are near the computer to make sure no one will catch them in the act. The other types of botters normally lie inbetween those. People ends up on the bot server database ONLY if they downloaded a bot and run it, so don't say "OMG you are wrong he never bots"... you'd never know that unless you are THAT person.

SuicideGrl, however, wasn't in the database, so he didn't get hacked because of botting.

Also, I will not post the whole bot list so don't ask. I have nothing against botters as I have friends in this game who happen to be botters also. There are also many people on this forum that bot (about half), which will be kept as confidential information. Some botters are actually great and nice people from my experience.

non ego man · Post by **non ego man** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:52 am

Death2U wrote:LOL I see that...is currently botting as of right now according to the bot server record.

So ISROb is totally insecure and you have the login and pw of 2300 people on Xian?

:shock:

I assume this is true of all servers, then? Your friend can get the login and pw of ISROb users on all servers?

:shock:

That's the best news I've heard all day.

EDIT: SG, not that it matters, maybe, but I got confused if you were hacked by a "friend of a friend" or by someone you banned on this forum that sent you a keylogger. Maybe the same person?

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:00 am

Botters or not, abusing this list will make you nothing better the person who got SuicideGrl. Hope the gold and gear you offered didn't belong to someone on it. Even though I don't care for people who bot, I care less for hackers.

Must be easy to be computer illiterate when you have friends doing all the dirty stuff for you. I mean, you even offer you little services for retribution. Nice move.

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:01 am

Lol only 1 of those names I don't recognize. "Zehir" and IIRC Krais's record will never get updated. Banned last I saw.

Honestly I have come to terms with the corruption in the game. The thing I don't like is those trying to pass them off as being legit. If you are gonna do the deed fess up. JM can't ban on confession. If they ever ban at all. I would love to see the list just to see if there are any fakers in my company. I know many many other names in that database. Just wish I knew some of the ones I don't know.

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:17 am

Alfred wrote:Botters or not, abusing this list will make you nothing better the person who got SuicideGrl. Hope the gold and gear you offered didn't belong to someone on it. Even though I don't care for people who bot, I care less for hackers.

Must be easy to be computer illiterate when you have friends doing all the dirty stuff for you. I mean, you even offer you little services for retribution. Nice move.

LOL these people violate Joymaxes TOS. They don't even really deserve to play the game. Many of them will lose what they have to joymax anyway. And some already have. This is in no way similar to what happened to sui. Having said that honestly I don't know that I would wish for anyone to find their character stripped. Even if by rights all of those mentioned players were to be banned tomorrow and all they had gone forever. Even if I were the beneficiary of gear from a stripped botter. Sometimes gear can be identified and that would only serve to make you a target if you are seen with it.

And may I say you have an interesting oppinion of hackers. Frankly your average hacker is not out for malice. They are out to do something to prove to themselves that they can do it; or that it can be done. It is the script kiddies that once they find out how it is done use it to attack innocent people most times. Though as always there are shades of gray. Not just white and black hat.

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:17 am

Botters everywhere are running to the store for these!

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:19 am

Death2U wrote:Excuse me for my late response.... barely have any time left to go online.

SuicideGrl, sorry to hear you got hacked. It must be terrible to get hacked and lost everything you've work so hard to build, legitly. I hope you will get back on your feet soon. I will give you 500m if you want. Also let me know what gear(s) you need left so I can hook you up with 8D Sox, and also the level of the wolf you want so I'll get you one the closest to the level you requested. Let me know what specific gears you want and I will put the items/money into a mule account and PM you the login and password for you to retrieve the gold and items. Also PM me the IGN of the person that did this to you and I will see to it that he will suffer the same fate.

borat2 wrote:so any news on how it was done or still just speculations?

i still have a hard time believing people get hacked that easy.

dEreida wrote:omg, now u got hacked too. Just talked to u yesterday.... wth
I got hacked like 1 month ago and Hacker stole evrything too but dont made me murder or left dE.....
Pls send meh a Pm Suicide

deReida, A professional hacker I know broke the encryption key and hacked into the isro bot server about a couple of months ago, and I could have sworn I seen your name in that list, along with many I recognized.

Below is a couple of high levels in Xian that use(d) a bot, and their sensitive information starred out. There are currently 2,381 unique IGNs in Xian have have a record in the bot server.

<< REMOVED >>

- cin

I randomly pasted a few records from the bot server. I don't play in Xian so I don't know any of the people above. Based on my experience, there are mainly three types of botters. The first type are the people who bot hardcore and make it no secret to anyone. The second type bot only after a cap raise, then stop botting until there's another cap raise. These are the people that are normally anti-botters and take a fierce anti-botting stance in a forum to pretend to be who they are not. The third type are casual botters who only bot only if they are near the computer to make sure no one will catch them in the act. The other types of botters normally lie inbetween those. People ends up on the bot server database ONLY if they downloaded a bot and run it, so don't say "OMG you are wrong he never bots"... you'd never know that unless you are THAT person.

SuicideGrl, however, wasn't in the database, so he didn't get hacked because of botting.

Also, I will not post the whole bot list so don't ask. I have nothing against botters as I have friends in this game who happen to be botters also. There are also many people on this forum that bot (about half), which will be kept as confidential information. Some botters are actually great and nice people from my experience.

Of course SG would not be in that list lol you didnt have to check, lets all hope SG gets his account secured asap before that idiot hacker gets on and does more damage LEGITS FTW.

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:20 am

nightbloom wrote:Botters everywhere are running to the store for these!

LOL indeed. The only thing it seems they have really managed to pwn is themselves. :twisted:

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:35 am

nightbloom wrote:Botters everywhere are running to the store for these!

lol

this one was too late

D2A publish the list remove your friends name or get into all those bot accounts and npc all their gear + max murder lol please ill give you 10k if you do.

ping_lo · Post by **ping_lo** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:44 am

Nah actually keep the login info etc. A list of names only would be nice. Even though not everyone uses isrobot most do. I am just interested to see who is on it. And see if anyone is trying to lie to me. I don't want on their account. I just would like to know who they are.

Death2U · Post by **Death2U** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:24 am

ping_lo wrote:
Alfred wrote:Botters or not, abusing this list will make you nothing better the person who got SuicideGrl. Hope the gold and gear you offered didn't belong to someone on it. Even though I don't care for people who bot, I care less for hackers.

Must be easy to be computer illiterate when you have friends doing all the dirty stuff for you. I mean, you even offer you little services for retribution. Nice move.

LOL these people violate Joymaxes TOS. They don't even really deserve to play the game. Many of them will lose what they have to joymax anyway. And some already have. This is in no way similar to what happened to sui. Having said that honestly I don't know that I would wish for anyone to find their character stripped. Even if by rights all of those mentioned players were to be banned tomorrow and all they had gone forever. Even if I were the beneficiary of gear from a stripped botter. Sometimes gear can be identified and that would only serve to make you a target if you are seen with it.

And may I say you have an interesting oppinion of hackers. Frankly your average hacker is not out for malice. They are out to do something to prove to themselves that they can do it; or that it can be done. It is the script kiddies that once they find out how it is done use it to attack innocent people most times. Though as always there are shades of gray. Not just white and black hat.

If we had bad intentions, the effect would have been notice a very long time ago. There's no need to profit from someone's else suffering... botters are humans after all. Also, the list will be kept confidential. If people bot, it's their business. We don't feel that anyone we don't know should wake up one day and have all their items stripped, whether they bot or not.

Also, if anyone would like to actually learn something about botting in SRO, now it's a good time to ask. My friend, a professional hacker and a mathematician, plotted the following data he obtained from joymax and the bot server.

He put all the data into a mathematics software and it generated him a graph that he show to me a couple of months ago of the % of botters at a certain level. It makes sense that level and % of botters have a direct correlection since most human players don't bot at low level and more and more tend to bot as the grinding time gets longer and longer. People obviously don't start botting at level 5 or 10 unless they are very lazy or have played this game already in another server. The data was interpolated to produce a smooth graph. This is the average of all the silkroad servers. Newer servers tend to have more botters, so there is a slight vertical shift, and vice versa for old servers. At higher level, botters greatly outnumbered legits so I believe this is the reason why Joymax is very reluctant to seriously ban high level player botters who buy silk for a reason. Legits are rare today, and many people quit along the way due to long and boring grinding or resort to botting. Higher levels that bots tend to be competitive and buy more silk, which produce the most revenue for Joymax, so if they ban all the botters, they will definitely lose a huge majority of their revenue, and their Joymax's shareholders will not be very pleased. So from a company's perspective, you can't blame Joymax for "not taking action against botters".

And also, as I stated before, no further names will be released. I believe people should enjoy the game for what it is and overlook all the negative things about this game (gold farmers, CCFers, scammers, spammers, retards, T***s, etc).

Just play and enjoy the game for what it is and for all the great things that this game has. Even though I quit this game already due to huge time constraints, I do have plans to play again when time allows in the future.

Post by **Rainigul** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:30 am

This is about 95% more accurate:

I know you said that the data was made into a smooth graph, but smooth graphs are total crap in real life situations.

Axeoo7 · Post by **Axeoo7** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:31 am

Death2U wrote:
ping_lo wrote:
Alfred wrote:Botters or not, abusing this list will make you nothing better the person who got SuicideGrl. Hope the gold and gear you offered didn't belong to someone on it. Even though I don't care for people who bot, I care less for hackers.

Must be easy to be computer illiterate when you have friends doing all the dirty stuff for you. I mean, you even offer you little services for retribution. Nice move.

LOL these people violate Joymaxes TOS. They don't even really deserve to play the game. Many of them will lose what they have to joymax anyway. And some already have. This is in no way similar to what happened to sui. Having said that honestly I don't know that I would wish for anyone to find their character stripped. Even if by rights all of those mentioned players were to be banned tomorrow and all they had gone forever. Even if I were the beneficiary of gear from a stripped botter. Sometimes gear can be identified and that would only serve to make you a target if you are seen with it.

And may I say you have an interesting oppinion of hackers. Frankly your average hacker is not out for malice. They are out to do something to prove to themselves that they can do it; or that it can be done. It is the script kiddies that once they find out how it is done use it to attack innocent people most times. Though as always there are shades of gray. Not just white and black hat.

If we had bad intentions, the effect would have been notice a very long time ago. There's no need to profit from someone's else suffering... botters are humans after all. Also, the list will be kept confidential. If people bot, it's their business. We don't feel that anyone we don't know should wake up one day and have all their items stripped, whether they bot or not.

Also, if anyone would like to actually learn something about botting in SRO, now it's a good time to ask. My friend, a professional hacker and a mathematician, plotted the following data he obtained from joymax and the bot server.

He put all the data into a mathematics software and it generated him a graph that he show to me a couple of months ago of the % of botters at a certain level. It makes sense that level and % of botters have a direct correlection since most human players don't bot at low level and more and more tend to bot as the grinding time gets longer and longer. The data was interpolated to produce a smooth graph. This is the average of all the silkroad servers. Newer servers tend to have more botters, so there is a slight vertical shift, and vice versa for old servers. At higher level, botters greatly outnumbered legits so I believe this is the reason why Joymax is very reluctant to seriously ban high level player botters who buy silk.

And also, as I stated before, no further names will be released. I believe people should enjoy the game for what it is and overlook all the negative things about this game (gold farmers, CCFers, scammers, spammers, retards, T***s, etc).

Just play and enjoy the game for what it is and for all the great things that this game has. Even though I quit this game already due to huge time constraints, I do have plans to play again when time allows in the future.

ahhh come on forget the user id and pw just their in game names would do, i promise ill give that 10k gold i offered

Death2U · Post by **Death2U** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:32 am

[SD]Rainigul wrote:This is about 95% more accurate:

I know you said that the data was made into a smooth graph, but smooth graphs are total crap in real life situations.

Actually, interpolation only slightly smooth a graph by an extremely small amount. It actually fixes the margin of error in real life scenerios when there's a direct correlation between two items.

beav · Post by **beav** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:34 am

Death2U wrote:
dEreida wrote:omg, now u got hacked too. Just talked to u yesterday.... wth
I got hacked like 1 month ago and Hacker stole evrything too but dont made me murder or left dE.....
Pls send meh a Pm Suicide

deReida, A professional hacker I know broke the encryption key and hacked into the isro bot server about a couple of months ago, and I could have sworn I seen your name in that list, along with many I recognized.

Bot ID: 523a3245c6
server: Xian
IGN: DeReida
Userid: **ida** (partially removed)
Password: (removed)
E-mail: Teu*3L.lo*l@gmx.net (partially removed)
Last login to bot server: 02-26-2007 21:15:05

pwned.

Death2U · Post by **Death2U** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:38 am

beav wrote:
Death2U wrote:
dEreida wrote:omg, now u got hacked too. Just talked to u yesterday.... wth
I got hacked like 1 month ago and Hacker stole evrything too but dont made me murder or left dE.....
Pls send meh a Pm Suicide

deReida, A professional hacker I know broke the encryption key and hacked into the isro bot server about a couple of months ago, and I could have sworn I seen your name in that list, along with many I recognized.

<< REMOVED >>

- cin

pwned.

Based on his last bot login time and from my own experience with people...

If I were to take an educated guess for not playing in Xian, I would say that this "deReida" guy is a "well-known" anti-botter in the server who takes an aggresive anti-botting stance to "prove" that he doesn't bot should people ever have suspicion, even though he DOES bot. And also, people like this are usually in a "legit" guild.

Can people in Xian verify how close am I?

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:56 am

Late as ever...

anyway, i'm sorry SG for what happened to you, i know i can't help on xian but if u ever want to lead the BH on venice i'd gladly give it to you along with my char which i still have and i think its 64

but hope u get your char back.

Good luck