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XemnasXD wrote:
Juicy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
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vindicated01 wrote:chinese char build for solo fighting they can kill one party euro char in same lvl!!


..no...did you even watch the vid


the vid is fake you know that


:roll: if you don't have anything to say don't say anything at all....

he did have something to say thats why he posted.



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If its CH nuker vs Euro Nuker (both have buffs) you said euro nuker wins. Well if its CH Str vs Euro Nuker then what. I've vids of euro 1 hits Glaivers the same lvl....discuss?


I've seen the one hit glaive kill too, but i think that was a cleric (though i don't think wizard is too far away damage wise) with the skill that sacrifices 95% of HP for a MASSIVE amount of damage.

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HyorunmarouZ wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Juicy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
vindicated01 wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
vindicated01 wrote:chinese char build for solo fighting they can kill one party euro char in same lvl!!


..no...did you even watch the vid


the vid is fake you know that


:roll: if you don't have anything to say don't say anything at all....

he did have something to say thats why he posted.



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If its CH nuker vs Euro Nuker (both have buffs) you said euro nuker wins. Well if its CH Str vs Euro Nuker then what. I've vids of euro 1 hits Glaivers the same lvl....discuss?


I've seen the one hit glaive kill too, but i think that was a cleric (though i don't think wizard is too far away damage wise) with the skill that sacrifices 95% of HP for a MASSIVE amount of damage.
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let's hope so, if they have to sacrifice 95% of their healt, you can look at them and they are death
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@ HyorunmarouZ
how about posting the vids first?? ;)
would like to see them

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flexo wrote:@ HyorunmarouZ
how about posting the vids first?? ;)
would like to see them
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Doctor_MOS wrote:
HyorunmarouZ wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Juicy wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
vindicated01 wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
vindicated01 wrote:chinese char build for solo fighting they can kill one party euro char in same lvl!!


..no...did you even watch the vid


the vid is fake you know that


:roll: if you don't have anything to say don't say anything at all....

he did have something to say thats why he posted.



find a better way to increase your post count :roll:

@Shadowman


If its CH nuker vs Euro Nuker (both have buffs) you said euro nuker wins. Well if its CH Str vs Euro Nuker then what. I've vids of euro 1 hits Glaivers the same lvl....discuss?


I've seen the one hit glaive kill too, but i think that was a cleric (though i don't think wizard is too far away damage wise) with the skill that sacrifices 95% of HP for a MASSIVE amount of damage.
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let's hope so, if they have to sacrifice 95% of their healt, you can look at them and they are death

Well it's actually an Kamikaze attack. lol
Iff a Glavier does his Flying Dragon attack and the euro cleric uses his 956-1156(+blablamuch%)attack both the cleric and the glavier will be dead cuz in pvp your health bar will always be under 95%.
Both the glavier and the cleric should watch out!
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GlennNL22 wrote:Well it's actually an Kamikaze attack. lol
Iff a Glavier does his Flying Dragon attack and the euro cleric uses his 956-1156(+967%)attack both the cleric and the glavier will be dead cuz in pvp your health bar will always be under 95%.
Both the glavier and the cleric should watch out!
Tight pvp's :!:


With the shield clerics got and the right timing with a super large potion. They can survive that. :) (1v1)
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TwelveEleven wrote:
GlennNL22 wrote:Well it's actually an Kamikaze attack. lol
Iff a Glavier does his Flying Dragon attack and the euro cleric uses his 956-1156(+967%)attack both the cleric and the glavier will be dead cuz in pvp your health bar will always be under 95%.
Both the glavier and the cleric should watch out!
Tight pvp's :!:


With the shield clerics got and the right timing with a super large potion. They can survive that. :) (1v1)

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kamikaze it is yes



but do you sacrifice 95% of your hp bar?? or 95% of your current hp?
(for example: you have 500/1000 hp, do you sacrifice 95% of that 500hp??

if not you're death when activating your uber strong skill :P
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flexo wrote:@ HyorunmarouZ
how about posting the vids first?? ;)
would like to see them
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I meant i saw a thread here where a lvl 80 cleric one hit killed a lvl 90 glaive, i didn't mention any video.

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=42008

The glaive takes 73k damage, so if the cleric shoots this first, PvP ended.

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HyorunmarouZ wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:
flexo wrote:@ HyorunmarouZ
how about posting the vids first?? ;)
would like to see them
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I meant i saw a thread here where a lvl 80 cleric one hit killed a lvl 90 glaive, i didn't mention any video.

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=42008

The glaive takes 73k damage, so if the cleric shoots this first, PvP ended.


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in that screenshot the cleric himself is death too....
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Doctor_MOS wrote:in that screenshot the cleric himself is death too....


No the cleric is level 80. The person who took the screenshot is level 34 and is also killed by the attack.

Besides.... Two handed sword warriors > all.
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from what i've seen i don't think there is a best Euro build but Clerics, Mages, 2H Sword, and Daggers seem to be the most powerful of the Euro class and all of them can beat there chinese counter parts.....right, correct me if im wrong on this


even with buffs from the Cleric, though they would help alot, each classes own buffs seem more than enough hold there own....a 2H sword took a bladers combo, KD 2x, Triple stab 2x without being healed by a cleric and won the fight with a crit. IF Euro can solo on pvp on there own what chance do chinese stand against them..even in a party cause party play is where Euros shine :?
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XemnasXD wrote:from what i've seen i don't think there is a best Euro build but Clerics, Mages, 2H Sword, and Daggers seem to be the most powerful of the Euro class and all of them can beat there chinese counter parts.....right, correct me if im wrong on this


even with buffs from the Cleric, though they would help alot, each classes own buffs seem more than enough hold there own....a 2H sword took a bladers combo, KD 2x, Triple stab 2x without being healed by a cleric and won the fight with a crit. IF Euro can solo on pvp on there own what chance do chinese stand against them..even in a party cause party play is where Euros shine :?


what i think that's going on is that the vids with euro beating chinese in 1vs1 are popular now because the general saying is tha euro is best in party and chinese is best in 1vs1. So a euro beating a chinese 1vs1 is concidered special so worth recording. I still find it very hard to believe that euro would be that good at both 1vs1 and party. Besides in all the video's i've seen there is no mentioning of the type of gear or the gap .. nothing at all like that. And those factors play a large role in the outcome of the battle.

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XemnasXD wrote:from what i've seen i don't think there is a best Euro build but Clerics, Mages, 2H Sword, and Daggers seem to be the most powerful of the Euro class and all of them can beat there chinese counter parts.....right, correct me if im wrong on this


even with buffs from the Cleric, though they would help alot, each classes own buffs seem more than enough hold there own....a 2H sword took a bladers combo, KD 2x, Triple stab 2x without being healed by a cleric and won the fight with a crit. IF Euro can solo on pvp on there own what chance do chinese stand against them..even in a party cause party play is where Euros shine :?


what i think that's going on is that the vids with euro beating chinese in 1vs1 are popular now because the general saying is tha euro is best in party and chinese is best in 1vs1. So a euro beating a chinese 1vs1 is concidered special so worth recording. I still find it very hard to believe that euro would be that good at both 1vs1 and party. Besides in all the video's i've seen there is no mentioning of the type of gear or the gap .. nothing at all like that. And those factors play a large role in the outcome of the battle.


so true but in Ksro they're have 9D alot longer so most of the chinese players should have there gear the best its going to be at that point. If its anythign like ISRO then the high lvls gather at DW south and just duke it out. Yeah theres a lvl difference sometimes but its clear who's pwning who. IMO thats the same that thats going on in KSRO the best of the best are duking it out at DW south and only the strong are surviving. The only thing we don't know is and here where i agree with you....if those Euro players are just the best of the best or if ALL Euro characters will be able to pwn like that....
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XemnasXD wrote:so true but in Ksro they're have 9D alot longer so most of the chinese players should have there gear the best its going to be at that point. If its anythign like ISRO then the high lvls gather at DW south and just duke it out. Yeah theres a lvl difference sometimes but its clear who's pwning who. IMO thats the same that thats going on in KSRO the best of the best are duking it out at DW south and only the strong are surviving. The only thing we don't know is and here where i agree with you....if those Euro players are just the best of the best or if ALL Euro characters will be able to pwn like that....


hmm yeah there you have some good points..
but still prob it is just like iSRO overthere. It's just go to the south gate and see who is there, then fight who ever is close to your level. I doubt that those vids are arranged fights.
I haven't seen many vids but most look like some new players recording some random fights. So not nessecerly the best of euro vs the best of chinese.
Although I would love to see a fight like that, i doubt that we've already seen it.

But if those video's are the general case in kSRO then it's real bad news for the chinese. I hope that we are getting a screwed image here.

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XemnasXD wrote:so true but in Ksro they're have 9D alot longer so most of the chinese players should have there gear the best its going to be at that point. If its anythign like ISRO then the high lvls gather at DW south and just duke it out. Yeah theres a lvl difference sometimes but its clear who's pwning who. IMO thats the same that thats going on in KSRO the best of the best are duking it out at DW south and only the strong are surviving. The only thing we don't know is and here where i agree with you....if those Euro players are just the best of the best or if ALL Euro characters will be able to pwn like that....


hmm yeah there you have some good points..
but still prob it is just like iSRO overthere. It's just go to the south gate and see who is there, then fight who ever is close to your level. I doubt that those vids are arranged fights.
I haven't seen many vids but most look like some new players recording some random fights. So not nessecerly the best of euro vs the best of chinese.
Although I would love to see a fight like that, i doubt that we've already seen it.

But if those video's are the general case in kSRO then it's real bad news for the chinese. I hope that we are getting a screwed image here.


well, if chinese will realy be worse against euro........JM is gonna lose a LOT of good players
they will not be happy (Just like me) with their fully farmed acc's who can't even beat the worsest euro char in the server
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even in group chinese should pwn for a wile because chinese has so many sos,som and sun items and euro will have none when they start they have have huge dissadvantage

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flexo wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:so true but in Ksro they're have 9D alot longer so most of the chinese players should have there gear the best its going to be at that point. If its anythign like ISRO then the high lvls gather at DW south and just duke it out. Yeah theres a lvl difference sometimes but its clear who's pwning who. IMO thats the same that thats going on in KSRO the best of the best are duking it out at DW south and only the strong are surviving. The only thing we don't know is and here where i agree with you....if those Euro players are just the best of the best or if ALL Euro characters will be able to pwn like that....


hmm yeah there you have some good points..
but still prob it is just like iSRO overthere. It's just go to the south gate and see who is there, then fight who ever is close to your level. I doubt that those vids are arranged fights.
I haven't seen many vids but most look like some new players recording some random fights. So not nessecerly the best of euro vs the best of chinese.
Although I would love to see a fight like that, i doubt that we've already seen it.

But if those video's are the general case in kSRO then it's real bad news for the chinese. I hope that we are getting a screwed image here.


well, if chinese will realy be worse against euro........JM is gonna lose a LOT of good players
they will not be happy (Just like me) with their fully farmed acc's who can't even beat the worsest euro char in the server
You'll probably one hit the worst Euro character. Maybe 2 hit the average Euro character depending how good their gear is.

From what I've seen, Chinese is still the best in 1v1.
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now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??

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flexo wrote:now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??
My Kung Fu Fighting video? lol

I don't record Euro character losing since its nothing special. If a Euro character leaves safe zone he/she gets swarmed and killed after only using one skill. This happens about 70% of the time from what I've seen. I guess I should have put in all the times that wizard died into my video. lol I haven't seen one Euro character thats able to tank more than a Chinese character without buffs from other classes.

Maybe I've seen mostly bad Euro characters pvp or maybe great Chinese characters. Its hard to say, since like you stated earlier, we don't know their level, what gap their on, etc. Soul Spear and a ghost spear or 2 nukes kills them most of the time. This is just from what I've seen though.

Also, I've asked some Korean players why they don't like the Euro characters. They all say that they die too fast and only the cleric is useful.
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flexo wrote:now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??
My Kung Fu Fighting video? lol

I don't record Euro character losing since its nothing special. If a Euro character leaves safe zone he/she gets swarmed and killed after only using one skill. This happens about 70% of the time from what I've seen. I guess I should have put in all the times that wizard died into my video. lol I haven't seen one Euro character thats able to tank more than a Chinese character without buffs from other classes.

Maybe I've seen mostly bad Euro characters pvp or maybe great Chinese characters. Its hard to say, since like you stated earlier, we don't know their level, what gap their on, etc. Soul Spear and a ghost spear or 2 nukes kills them most of the time. This is just from what I've seen though.

Also, I've asked some Korean players why they don't like the Euro characters. They all say that they die too fast and only the cleric is useful.
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very good information to know i quess :P
so the movie was just more to show the euro chars pvping? especially when they are winning?
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Sounds to me like 1v1 PvP will be a matter of pure luck. Euro can kill with 1 hit, but if my shield blocks (can get about 60-65% BR in total with the bicheon skill) their lack of potting will quickly spell their doom when I start knockdown and stab. Group PvP should become interesting, since the buffers will quickly become the prime target. I don't think players will care much about the warrior taunt skill. It should make for some interesting times ahead.
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Hawkster wrote:Discussing sro with yourself in bed...what next.

Anyways it wil be chinese for a long time with all the high levels they have.

dont be hatin I do it for hours lmao
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Hawkster wrote:Discussing sro with yourself in bed...what next.

Anyways it wil be chinese for a long time with all the high levels they have.

dont be hatin I do it for hours lmao
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flexo wrote:now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??
My Kung Fu Fighting video? lol

I don't record Euro character losing since its nothing special. If a Euro character leaves safe zone he/she gets swarmed and killed after only using one skill. This happens about 70% of the time from what I've seen. I guess I should have put in all the times that wizard died into my video. lol I haven't seen one Euro character thats able to tank more than a Chinese character without buffs from other classes.

Maybe I've seen mostly bad Euro characters pvp or maybe great Chinese characters. Its hard to say, since like you stated earlier, we don't know their level, what gap their on, etc. Soul Spear and a ghost spear or 2 nukes kills them most of the time. This is just from what I've seen though.

Also, I've asked some Korean players why they don't like the Euro characters. They all say that they die too fast and only the cleric is useful.
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very good information to know i quess :P
so the movie was just more to show the euro chars pvping? especially when they are winning?
Yea. They rarely leave safe zone for obvious reasons.... And many thought that since Euro characters have a pot delay and are group focused, they can't win in 1v1. Just wanted to show that they can win as well. I have video of a crossbow user pvping and another big sword pvping. If you want to see, I can upload it to youtube.

phulshof wrote:Sounds to me like 1v1 PvP will be a matter of pure luck. Euro can kill with 1 hit, but if my shield blocks (can get about 60-65% BR in total with the bicheon skill) their lack of potting will quickly spell their doom when I start knockdown and stab. Group PvP should become interesting, since the buffers will quickly become the prime target. I don't think players will care much about the warrior taunt skill. It should make for some interesting times ahead.
Most buffs have a far range so Bards and clerics never have to leave the safe zone.
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lol do I see it right.. in the beginning there's a rogue transformed as a monster, while there are 2 glaivers duelling each other. When they hit the monster with AoE they both become murderer?

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flexo wrote:now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??
My Kung Fu Fighting video? lol

I don't record Euro character losing since its nothing special. If a Euro character leaves safe zone he/she gets swarmed and killed after only using one skill. This happens about 70% of the time from what I've seen. I guess I should have put in all the times that wizard died into my video. lol I haven't seen one Euro character thats able to tank more than a Chinese character without buffs from other classes.

Maybe I've seen mostly bad Euro characters pvp or maybe great Chinese characters. Its hard to say, since like you stated earlier, we don't know their level, what gap their on, etc. Soul Spear and a ghost spear or 2 nukes kills them most of the time. This is just from what I've seen though.

Also, I've asked some Korean players why they don't like the Euro characters. They all say that they die too fast and only the cleric is useful.
ty da_realest

very good information to know i quess :P
so the movie was just more to show the euro chars pvping? especially when they are winning?
Yea. They rarely leave safe zone for obvious reasons.... And many thought that since Euro characters have a pot delay and are group focused, they can't win in 1v1. Just wanted to show that they can win as well. I have video of a crossbow user pvping and another big sword pvping. If you want to see, I can upload it to youtube.

phulshof wrote:Sounds to me like 1v1 PvP will be a matter of pure luck. Euro can kill with 1 hit, but if my shield blocks (can get about 60-65% BR in total with the bicheon skill) their lack of potting will quickly spell their doom when I start knockdown and stab. Group PvP should become interesting, since the buffers will quickly become the prime target. I don't think players will care much about the warrior taunt skill. It should make for some interesting times ahead.
Most buffs have a far range so Bards and clerics never have to leave the safe zone.

please upload it, i really want to see euro versus euro too :D
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Da_Realest wrote:
flexo wrote:now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??
My Kung Fu Fighting video? lol

I don't record Euro character losing since its nothing special. If a Euro character leaves safe zone he/she gets swarmed and killed after only using one skill. This happens about 70% of the time from what I've seen. I guess I should have put in all the times that wizard died into my video. lol I haven't seen one Euro character thats able to tank more than a Chinese character without buffs from other classes.

Maybe I've seen mostly bad Euro characters pvp or maybe great Chinese characters. Its hard to say, since like you stated earlier, we don't know their level, what gap their on, etc. Soul Spear and a ghost spear or 2 nukes kills them most of the time. This is just from what I've seen though.

Also, I've asked some Korean players why they don't like the Euro characters. They all say that they die too fast and only the cleric is useful.


aight thnx for your comment.. confirms my suspicion. So chinese is 1vs1-based and euro is party-based

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Doctor_MOS wrote:
Da_Realest wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:
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flexo wrote:now there is some good news..:D
you got some video's of that??
My Kung Fu Fighting video? lol

I don't record Euro character losing since its nothing special. If a Euro character leaves safe zone he/she gets swarmed and killed after only using one skill. This happens about 70% of the time from what I've seen. I guess I should have put in all the times that wizard died into my video. lol I haven't seen one Euro character thats able to tank more than a Chinese character without buffs from other classes.

Maybe I've seen mostly bad Euro characters pvp or maybe great Chinese characters. Its hard to say, since like you stated earlier, we don't know their level, what gap their on, etc. Soul Spear and a ghost spear or 2 nukes kills them most of the time. This is just from what I've seen though.

Also, I've asked some Korean players why they don't like the Euro characters. They all say that they die too fast and only the cleric is useful.
ty da_realest

very good information to know i quess :P
so the movie was just more to show the euro chars pvping? especially when they are winning?
Yea. They rarely leave safe zone for obvious reasons.... And many thought that since Euro characters have a pot delay and are group focused, they can't win in 1v1. Just wanted to show that they can win as well. I have video of a crossbow user pvping and another big sword pvping. If you want to see, I can upload it to youtube.

phulshof wrote:Sounds to me like 1v1 PvP will be a matter of pure luck. Euro can kill with 1 hit, but if my shield blocks (can get about 60-65% BR in total with the bicheon skill) their lack of potting will quickly spell their doom when I start knockdown and stab. Group PvP should become interesting, since the buffers will quickly become the prime target. I don't think players will care much about the warrior taunt skill. It should make for some interesting times ahead.
Most buffs have a far range so Bards and clerics never have to leave the safe zone.

please upload it, i really want to see euro versus euro too :D
me to :D
Edit: some1 said something bout warrior taunt skill, wat exactly does that do :?:
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