76% Hybrid Sword Enough?

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:10 am

I don't want any crap about change to spear or use blankity blank, anything you can tell me besides what I'm asking I've already thought of.

Simple Question:
ONLY damage output concerned, do you think a 76% intelligence hybrid s/s (I know I use spear too, but I'm asking sword) is high enough for kills?

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:12 am

I haven't tried Hybrid S/S, but has been said in some discussions that it's better to have at least 85% of Mag Balance or the damage would be too low...

StealMySoda · Post by **StealMySoda** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:13 am

I know very little about INTs, and even less about hyrbids, but 76% sounds VERY low. Especially for a S/S.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:14 am

I'm only asking because of the successful 73% hybrid intelligence builds of spears, and was wondering it could be adapted to a s/s/s, but mostly s/s.

truez · Post by **truez** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:23 am

shadowman20875 wrote:I'm only asking because of the successful 73% hybrid intelligence builds of spears, and was wondering it could be adapted to a s/s/s, but mostly s/s.

The 73% Hybrid INT of SPEAR have enuf damage to make ... but S/S it wuldnt b enuf .. its quite low for S/S.

E46Dinan · Post by **E46Dinan** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:25 am

It is not enough. You should have 80% Mag balance naked as a INT Hybrid.

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:27 am

its way too low you should have at least 80% magic balance naked (83-87 preferred) i know because i am one

dont listen to people that say 90% thats way overkill

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:39 am

ummm my spear was 79% naked and my sword was about 87-90%

id raise your % to be above 83%, your damage would be too low to kill STR's in pvp.

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:17 pm

Is that 76% with or without gear?

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:49 pm

No, s/s that are too hybrid is like a pure str blader except with 8k less hp, I would switch to spear if I were you. What level are you?
Edit: I certainly hope that's your naked balance ><

Xs · Post by Xs » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:16 pm

Yeah lol you should have AT LEAST 80% or its good game for you in pvp

Hawkster · Post by **Hawkster** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:13 pm

i think you should put 3 int in a few levels

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:14 pm

I'm pure intelligence right now, PvE with Spear and won't go hybrid for a while. I'm NOT 76% atm, but considering all builds, and was wondering how low I should go (or high). I know everyone 'says' go 80%+, but was wondering what you guys thought.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:11 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:I'm pure intelligence right now, PvE with Spear and won't go hybrid for a while. I'm NOT 76% atm, but considering all builds, and was wondering how low I should go (or high). I know everyone 'says' go 80%+, but was wondering what you guys thought.

If you're going to try and use s/s add all the int you can, if you're going with spear you need anywhere from 71% to the highest you can get.

Embodiment · Post by **Embodiment** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:06 am

shadowman20875 wrote:I don't want any crap about change to spear or use blankity blank, anything you can tell me besides what I'm asking I've already thought of.

Simple Question:
ONLY damage output concerned, do you think a 76% intelligence hybrid s/s (I know I use spear too, but I'm asking sword) is high enough for kills?

No, at lv80 with that % you will never kill anyone, not even in zerk.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:29 am

So... 80%+ or 85%+? I'm thinking either 82% or 86%... which is a better balance between health and damage?

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:31 am

HyorunmarouZ wrote:I haven't tried Hybrid S/S, but has been said in some discussions that it's better to have at least 85% of Mag Balance or the damage would be too low...

wrong

But anything above 80 is fine, now 76...jeez...

HBblade · Post by **HBblade** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:26 am

hybrid int s/s hits worst than a blader :roll:

ur 76% will be worst than a blader's dmg

Embodiment · Post by **Embodiment** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:02 pm

[NF]IceCrash wrote:
HyorunmarouZ wrote:I haven't tried Hybrid S/S, but has been said in some discussions that it's better to have at least 85% of Mag Balance or the damage would be too low...

wrong
But anything above 80 is fine, now 76...jeez...

wrong

Anything above 90+ is fine for int sword anything below that isn't good.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:22 pm

So, here's what we have:

83%
86%
90%

I would put in a poll, but that edit button is out of my reach from my couch. I'm almost 5x and if I don't start putting in strength I'm not going to have time to get some of the lower builds.

What do you guys think from these?

P.S. If any of you link me a guide, I have already read it, this is fine tunning. Also, I will have your soul. :twisted:

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:13 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:So, here's what we have:

83%
86%
90%

I would put in a poll, but that edit button is out of my reach from my couch. I'm almost 5x and if I don't start putting in strength I'm not going to have time to get some of the lower builds.

What do you guys think from these?

P.S. If any of you link me a guide, I have already read it, this is fine tunning. Also, I will have your soul.

people used 90 before because we did not have the new skills and unless you had a very high magic balance you couldn't kill anyone but now we will have skills at 80 so anything above 80% should be good enough i think about 85% would be the best magic balance if you want to be able to nuke and tank

notice how people that actually are hybrid s/s recommend a magic balance near 85% 90 is way too much just be pure int if you are going to do that

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:20 pm

Embodiment wrote:
[NF]IceCrash wrote:
HyorunmarouZ wrote:I haven't tried Hybrid S/S, but has been said in some discussions that it's better to have at least 85% of Mag Balance or the damage would be too low...

wrong
But anything above 80 is fine, now 76...jeez...

wrong
Anything above 90+ is fine for int sword anything below that isn't good.

lies!!

imo 90 is too much int, 85 would be the perfet balance...

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:28 pm

a spear does 17% more magical damage then a sword

so if a spear should have something like a 75% naked balance,
75*1,17=87,85 (75 mag balance*1,17 becease sword does lower damage)
so a s/s user shoud have a mag balance around 88%?

maybe i'm totally wrong on this, i don't know how much magical balance inflicts damage

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:31 pm

Doctor_MOS wrote:a spear does 17% more magical damage then a sword

so if a spear should have something like a 75% naked balance,
75*1,17=87,85 (75 mag balance*1,17 becease sword does lower damage)
so a s/s user shoud have a mag balance around 88%?

maybe i'm totally wrong on this, i don't know how much magical balance inflicts damage

What's "1,17"?

is that 1.17 with a small typo? I'm only asking because I'm wondering where you got the 1 from? is that compensation for the low damage? I think 100% is a little too much...

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:38 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:a spear does 17% more magical damage then a sword

so if a spear should have something like a 75% naked balance,
75*1,17=87,85 (75 mag balance*1,17 becease sword does lower damage)
so a s/s user shoud have a mag balance around 88%?

maybe i'm totally wrong on this, i don't know how much magical balance inflicts damage

What's "1,17"?

is that 1.17 with a small typo? I'm only asking because I'm wondering where you got the 1 from? is that compensation for the low damage? I think 100% is a little too much...

I think some countries write the decimal place with a comma.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:43 pm

Ell wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:a spear does 17% more magical damage then a sword

so if a spear should have something like a 75% naked balance,
75*1,17=87,85 (75 mag balance*1,17 becease sword does lower damage)
so a s/s user shoud have a mag balance around 88%?

maybe i'm totally wrong on this, i don't know how much magical balance inflicts damage

What's "1,17"?

is that 1.17 with a small typo? I'm only asking because I'm wondering where you got the 1 from? is that compensation for the low damage? I think 100% is a little too much...

I think some countries write the decimal place with a comma.

Ah, didn't know that, the only thing I do know is using semi-colon instead of back slash for dates.

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