bows and pvp

BuZzZ · Post by **BuZzZ** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:52 pm

So atm i have a lvl 14 pure str bow. Im about to start all the sp farming and i dont want to waste my time if he wont even be good at pvp. I plan on goin fire/cold. Also im not talkin bout the wars pvp but just good old fasion 1v1. thanks tons

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3POINT · Post by **3POINT** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:11 pm

there a pros and cons for any build

blades and knowckdown/stab
glaives have that huge damage dealing
and bows hanve there range

one things i've noticed is that ppl with high crit bows do well. i remember the battle between DJ and Fly. DJ had crits near 15 and 17k.

either way u go (in builds) there are pros and cons. Just do it right and ull be fine.

BuZzZ · Post by **BuZzZ** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:22 pm

thanks bro

RaiKiRii · Post by **RaiKiRii** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:31 pm

3POINT wrote:one things i've noticed is that ppl with high crit bows do well. i remember the battle between DJ and Fly. DJ had crits near 15 and 17k.

um........ you sure about the 15k man? cuz that would have 1 shotted Fly, considering a 6x Glaiver has ~10K HP.

antix · Post by **antix** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:14 pm

Acually you have picked a very good choice. A pure STR bow ice is one of the Korean PvP champion builds. So, if you know what your doing and add the right skills god have mercy on whoever PvPs you

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3POINT · Post by **3POINT** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:29 am

okay maybe i exaggerated but he got the point

IloveMyself · Post by **IloveMyself** » Tue May 02, 2006 2:58 am

antix wrote:Acually you have picked a very good choice. A pure STR bow ice is one of the Korean PvP champion builds. So, if you know what your doing and add the right skills god have mercy on whoever PvPs you .

but pure str bow ice quite hard 2 pve because they deal lesser damage, am i right? what elements to take other than ice?

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:45 am

Fire!!!

Wuyazi · Post by **Wuyazi** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:54 am

IloveMyself wrote:but pure str bow ice quite hard 2 pve because they deal lesser damage, am i right? what elements to take other than ice?

yeah thats true but with the str you do more physical dmg and with the frost imbue you can frostbite the guy and on the offchance taht you do freeze the monster...You can easily kill it without getting a hit at all..........This same principle goes with PVP also....Is you wanna add more dmg though Fire would be good.......One suggestion would be that you start off with frost imbue and then when it runs out use fire umbue and repeat until the monster is dead

jumumuy · Post by **jumumuy** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:55 pm

What do you think about autopills....

wilsont06 · Post by **wilsont06** » Tue May 02, 2006 7:02 pm

jumumuy wrote:What do you think about autopills....

even with pills, the iced victim will still be left pausing a few seconds, leaving you time for "strong bow" or "anti-devil".

Wuyazi · Post by **Wuyazi** » Wed May 03, 2006 12:03 am

Yup.....The ice would immediately stop ur attck if you get frozen even if you autopill........And forstbite would slow the attck enough for you to get in a few attcks.....theres a slight delay in using the autopill.....This can be due to the lagging server or the speed of ur opponents computer....Believe me I've done this before..........

BuZzZ · Post by **BuZzZ** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:11 am

thanks for all the replies

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:17 am

If its any help, I schooled an Ice Bower that was my level when he had the first shot, and I was Fire/Glavie.

Post by **Avalanche** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:52 am

Anti-Devil = crit A LOT.

x_CodeZero_x · Post by **x_CodeZero_x** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:59 am

If you're using the bow cold is really the way to go if you know what you're doing. You get range and if they don't have pills then you'll freeze/frostbite them, if they do you have the chance to screw with the skills they have selected.

vmj · Post by **vmj** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:19 am

I'm a fire/str/bow and I have a +4 5 crit bow and if I'm first hit giant and some one jumps in or I jump in( if some one ask for help) I'm usual do the most dmg and get all the gold. :twisted:

I usualy do a lot of damage and I dont see a use for ice. I might do some pvping in the future, do I realy need us my sp on ice?

Wuyazi · Post by **Wuyazi** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:26 am

Actually it depends on how u wanna play......If you play ice, you lose lesser money to pots and repairs......If you do fire you lose a smaller amnt of money to pots and repairs due to the nature of fire having more dmg and also the burn thing........

//:Protocol · Post by **//:Protocol** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:45 am

Ice and Bow are natural soulmates.
Like Ant and Dec =p

theCoder · Post by **theCoder** » Wed May 03, 2006 12:54 pm

Ice is actualy much more effective for PvE.
Fire is better choice for PvP
Archers do just fine in one on one PvP, just do not go head to head with another pure str, unless you know you are going to get the first shot in. The same goes for the pure str glavie user. The pure str blader is the only one exempt from this rule because he can block.

PvP with ice, here is my experience -- universal pill is very effective with aotopill. Yes it may cancel your wind-ups for the power shots, however, ice has 0 effect on double and triple arrow buffs, because those have no wind up, and they launch right after autopot executes, as long as you hold in the hotkeys. You hotkey both buffs (launch one right after the other), and dead icer, end of story.

Go fire. If you must have ice, use it as secondary. If you would rather have the stronger PvE character and avoid PvP in the game, then ice ftw. PvE monsters do no autopot.

With fire and bow skills, you are going to be doing close to 3500 hp damage with your crits and spirit bow. The only players will have enough hp to withstand that will be your pure str characters. Nukers will die 2x over with a single blow.

Antione · Post by **Antione** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:39 pm

Wuyazi wrote:Yup.....The ice would immediately stop ur attck if you get frozen even if you autopill........And forstbite would slow the attck enough for you to get in a few attcks.....theres a slight delay in using the autopill.....This can be due to the lagging server or the speed of ur opponents computer....Believe me I've done this before..........

thats only for glaive users or other bow users
i autopill and it goes away instantly between the pill and the status error reduction of the phoenix fire shield......

pure int nukers FTW!!!!!!!!!!

Antione · Post by **Antione** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:42 pm

theCoder wrote: The only players will have enough hp to withstand that will be your pure str characters. Nukers will die 2x over with a single blow.

if your pvping your lvl you won't be 1 hitting anyone, like if your lvl 30 your crit won't be 2k on a lvl 30 nuker (if you hit through the shield) then nuker nukes you and maybe does 2k with nuke.......Then you dead.........END OF STORY

Resist · Post by **Resist** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:29 pm

FFS JUST USE FIRE!

You can get 100% resistance from ice. From rings, necklaces, and the shield fire skill (which you dont need to be a sword/shielder go use). Its been proven over and over that in higher lvls ice is useless.

Just stick with fire :wink:

Tezuka! · Post by **Tezuka!** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:47 pm

ice isnt useless at all, its stop the attacks like someone told up, if u are a full str, u dont need to make much damage because u are a TANKER. so ice is the better way for a blade char, cuz of the chain, u ll freeze the ennemis everytime. for nuker, u must make much damage so ice is useless i think