Lv 80 blader...

XCaosX · Post by **XCaosX** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:48 pm

Can lv 80 blader have 20k hp without heuksal passive?..if yes..is better blader\glavier or blader\bowman?O__O

TheGiftedOne · Post by **TheGiftedOne** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:55 pm

no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

Mage Pker · Post by **Mage Pker** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:01 pm

TheGiftedOne wrote:no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

i dare you to say that to King_Sky on sparta server without getting ur ass handed to you.

he has sosun blade+7 and sosun shield +5, and som\sosun garms.

he owns the entire server. people ALWAYS call him out, and they ALWAYS get owned.

there was a guild war. he owned the entire guild until he got teamed like 6 on 1 but his guild still won.

he rocks >.<

XCaosX · Post by **XCaosX** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:06 pm

sosun blade +7...ahh

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:16 pm

give a blader 1v1 against someone with nearly the same set at 72+ and they wont be able to kill.

sry but 3k damage with 6k crit is too weak.

TheGiftedOne · Post by **TheGiftedOne** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:29 pm

Mage Pker wrote:
TheGiftedOne wrote:no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

i dare you to say that to King_Sky on sparta server without getting ur ass handed to you.

he has sosun blade+7 and sosun shield +5, and som\sosun garms.

he owns the entire server. people ALWAYS call him out, and they ALWAYS get owned.

there was a guild war. he owned the entire guild until he got teamed like 6 on 1 but his guild still won.

he rocks >.<

seriously, bladers with sun cant kill either...

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:32 pm

no 20k hp for bladers at 80...and indeed...bladers arent totally helpless with killing in pvp but they have to rely on a luck streak with crits in the KD/stab...lvl 58 friend (blader and im 57 s/s int) I couldnt kill him but he couldnt kill me to, till he started to crit

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:35 pm

XMoshe wrote:no 20k hp for bladers at 80...and indeed...bladers arent totally helpless with killing in pvp but they have to rely on a luck streak with crits in the KD/stab...lvl 58 friend (blader and im 57 s/s int) I couldnt kill him but he couldnt kill me to, till he started to crit

fire wall and straight nukes and he'd die. and if you're scared turn on castle shield.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:42 pm

the xlarge has ruined bladers

thats why i got glaive as back up

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:49 pm

lmao, bladers with sun cant kill lol, thye're still to weak.

Airbeat · Post by **Airbeat** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:49 pm

Sorry, but bladers really suck

Give me a blader at my lvl, and i can own him no mather what ^^

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:51 pm

sorry, as a pure str blader + +4 set at lvl 79 with 9 gap, i dont get killed or kill many people, well the only people i do kill are the hybrid int/pure ints, cant kill pure str's, unless we take pot off

jamesrp · Post by **jamesrp** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:15 pm

Mage Pker wrote:
TheGiftedOne wrote:no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

i dare you to say that to King_Sky on sparta server without getting ur ass handed to you.

he has sosun blade+7 and sosun shield +5, and som\sosun garms.

he owns the entire server. people ALWAYS call him out, and they ALWAYS get owned.

there was a guild war. he owned the entire guild until he got teamed like 6 on 1 but his guild still won.

he rocks >.<

Yeah King_Sky is the baddest player on sparta he was playing with a friend of mine and crit for 28k+ he can hold his own and theres no one on sparta to my knowalge ( begin flameing ) that can take him... even other playes w/ sosuns...

jamesrp · Post by **jamesrp** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:15 pm

Mage Pker wrote:
TheGiftedOne wrote:no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

i dare you to say that to King_Sky on sparta server without getting ur ass handed to you.

he has sosun blade+7 and sosun shield +5, and som\sosun garms.

he owns the entire server. people ALWAYS call him out, and they ALWAYS get owned.

there was a guild war. he owned the entire guild until he got teamed like 6 on 1 but his guild still won.

he rocks >.<

Yeah King_Sky is the baddest player on sparta he was playing with a friend of mine and crit for 28k+ he can hold his own and theres no one on sparta to my knowalge ( begin flameing ) that can take him... even other playes w/ sosuns...

jamesrp · Post by **jamesrp** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:17 pm

Mage Pker wrote:
TheGiftedOne wrote:no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

i dare you to say that to King_Sky on sparta server without getting ur ass handed to you.

he has sosun blade+7 and sosun shield +5, and som\sosun garms.

he owns the entire server. people ALWAYS call him out, and they ALWAYS get owned.

there was a guild war. he owned the entire guild until he got teamed like 6 on 1 but his guild still won.

he rocks >.<

Yeah King_Sky is the baddest player on sparta he was playing with a friend of mine and crit for 28k+ he can hold his own and theres no one on sparta to my knowalge ( begin flameing ) that can take him... even other playes w/ sosuns...

jamesrp · Post by **jamesrp** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:17 pm

Mage Pker wrote:
TheGiftedOne wrote:no they cant have 20k I think 19k max
even if they had 20k hp they still wouldnt be able to kill anything(no offense I like bladers but they just cant kill anything)

i dare you to say that to King_Sky on sparta server without getting ur ass handed to you.

he has sosun blade+7 and sosun shield +5, and som\sosun garms.

he owns the entire server. people ALWAYS call him out, and they ALWAYS get owned.

there was a guild war. he owned the entire guild until he got teamed like 6 on 1 but his guild still won.

he rocks >.<

Yeah King_Sky is the baddest player on sparta he was playing with a friend of mine and crit for 28k+ he can hold his own and theres no one on sparta to my knowalge ( begin flameing ) that can take him... even other playes w/ sosuns...

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:39 pm

XMoshe wrote:no 20k hp for bladers at 80...and indeed...bladers arent totally helpless with killing in pvp but they have to rely on a luck streak with crits in the KD/stab...lvl 58 friend (blader and im 57 s/s int) I couldnt kill him but he couldnt kill me to, till he started to crit

Yes 20k..Ive seen glaivers with 21.1k hp. So take of the heuksal passive , till 20k.

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:47 pm

OMFG A QUAD POST!!!!!! :shock:

x_CodeZero_x · Post by **x_CodeZero_x** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:51 pm

Airbeat wrote:Sorry, but bladers really suck
Give me a blader at my lvl, and i can own him no mather what ^^

A blader the same lvl as you, same gear will put you through hell. Unless the blader is a moron of corse. It will be a pot fight lol.

Mage Pker · Post by **Mage Pker** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:52 pm

funny how we lost track of the thread.....

he asked if its possible for a blader to have 20k hp >.<

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:55 pm

Mage Pker wrote:funny how we lost track of the thread.....

he asked if its possible for a blader to have 20k hp >.<

Answer is yes

jamesrp · Post by **jamesrp** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:58 pm

SRY didnt mean to do that!!! :shock:

not sure how to fix it (i'm having internet problems )

Rotorboy · Post by **Rotorboy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:01 pm

Mage Pker wrote:funny how we lost track of the thread.....

he asked if its possible for a blader to have 20k hp >.<

i made a lvl 80 full str, +60 str for gears (all +5), +2 str for GDF and +3 str for PT. i had 19167 HP

but as he said, WITH heuksal passive...
19167 + 1078 (maxed) = 20245 HP, so it is possible

or if you use a +500 HP scroll you'd get 19667 + 509 (lvl 4) = 20176

Yasakira · Post by **Yasakira** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:11 pm

Rotorboy wrote:
Mage Pker wrote:funny how we lost track of the thread.....

he asked if its possible for a blader to have 20k hp >.<

i made a lvl 80 full str, +60 str for gears (all +5), +2 str for GDF and +3 str for PT. i had 19167 HP

but as he said, WITH heuksal passive...
19167 + 1078 (maxed) = 20245 HP, so it is possible

or if you use a +500 HP scroll you'd get 19667 + 509 (lvl 4) = 20176

Base hp for a pure strength is 16060. If you got 60 str, you can have 18928( 60 STR =2868 HP.)

Add 1200 for 400 hp on each item. Now you have 20128.

So a blader can get 20k hp without a PT or a GDF. If you have both, a blader can have 20367 HP.

You didnt say that you have hp on your items, maybe thats why? oO

XMoshe · Post by **XMoshe** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:16 pm

MrFudge wrote:
XMoshe wrote:no 20k hp for bladers at 80...and indeed...bladers arent totally helpless with killing in pvp but they have to rely on a luck streak with crits in the KD/stab...lvl 58 friend (blader and im 57 s/s int) I couldnt kill him but he couldnt kill me to, till he started to crit

fire wall and straight nukes and he'd die. and if you're scared turn on castle shield.

nope, he wouldt die even when I kept attacking him and he did nothing (thats with s/s) needed bout 10-15 straight nukes with my sos+3 spear to kill him and thats cuz he got a lil lag spike...but he couldnt kill me either even without castle shield

x_CodeZero_x · Post by **x_CodeZero_x** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:20 pm

Mage Pker wrote:funny how we lost track of the thread.....

he asked if its possible for a blader to have 20k hp >.<

And he also asked..

?..if yes..is better blader\glavier or blader\bowman?O__O

So no not really..

Krysis · Post by **Krysis** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:54 pm

bladers hit lower than bow or glavie.
but KD and stab x3 makes up for it.
and also yes u can have 20k hp on blader, with blues on most of your items.

Silver0 · Post by **Silver0** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:56 am

once again Blader from lvl 1-63 pwns once he hits 64-80 he cant kill anyone since everyone has +5-9/sox gear once cap is raised bladers will pwn again

i had a lvl 54 blader no one my lvl could kill me. i killed alot of glaviers with som/sox and nukers 7lvls above me all i ahd was +5 blade and br17+4 and +3 garment with int/str blues no matter what is said

str/gear owns in pvp
int/gear owns lower lvls and mobs

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:00 am

Dont forget the anti-triple stab stategy I teach u

Silver0 · Post by **Silver0** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:19 am

NuclearSilo wrote:Dont forget the anti-triple stab stategy I teach u

knock down is stronger IMO chain knockdown still does dmg stab is strong but if you have a good plan a nuker can just die by constantly trying knock down with all 3 ways even if all of them fail most likely the person will have 2/3 of there health down then chain then there dead since it wont give them enough time to pot since its constant if there using xlarge pots+sox might take longer but as long as there under 63 a blader can pwn them once they hit 64 most likely have some type of sox
once again IMO not fact
it will all change after cap is raised