Confused

Wizard_EG · Post by **Wizard_EG** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:34 pm

I'm level 27 now pure int spear
heuskal 21
ice 21
fire 21
thunder 21
bicheon 11

The thing is
Should i continue pure int spear Or should i switch to s/s ?

There is no way i'll go hybrid

I just want to know how much is that dmg deference in nukes between spear & sword at different levels ?

should i throw away the beautiful blocks for extra hp & extra DMG ?

[SD]TurnipTruck · Post by **[SD]TurnipTruck** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:42 pm

Why not be both. Instead of wasting time and money de-leveling one of the two why not keep both and use both. ie. S/S when you are low on HP. Plus the nice HP boost from heuksal and the better blocking from bicheon.

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:42 pm

It's basically a matter of preference. Pure Int Spear and Pure Int S/S have advantages and disadvantages. But most people would agree that S/S is the best for PVPs and Job/Guild Wars.

I switched to S/S once I reached 42. XD

Wizard_EG · Post by **Wizard_EG** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:53 pm

TurnipTruck wrote:Why not be both. Instead of wasting time and money de-leveling one of the two why not keep both and use both. ie. S/S when you are low on HP. Plus the nice HP boost from heuksal and the better blocking from bicheon.

you know what this may not be a bad idea after all
i think i'll leave heuskal at 30 (only hp passive) de level other skills

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:07 pm

damage difference... um... s/s is ~60% of spear dmg i wanna say (nukes), assuming they're both npc weps

as for hp, u lose spear passive (roughly 1k hp) but gain a shield that you can alchemy, gaining roughly 2k hit pts

Wizard_EG · Post by **Wizard_EG** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:19 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:damage difference... um... s/s is ~60% of spear dmg i wanna say (nukes), assuming they're both npc weps

as for hp, u lose spear passive (roughly 1k hp) but gain a shield that you can alchemy, gaining roughly 2k hit pts

WHAAAAAAT

u mean for same npc sutff my nuke dmg will be
600 using s/s
1k using spear
?????
a 40% is a lot of difference special at high levels
correct me if i'am wrong please

CobbZ · Post by **CobbZ** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:23 pm

it is a lot yes...

But if that 1K doesnt kill in one hit............

You're f u c k e d.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:10 pm

Wizard_EG wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:damage difference... um... s/s is ~60% of spear dmg i wanna say (nukes), assuming they're both npc weps

as for hp, u lose spear passive (roughly 1k hp) but gain a shield that you can alchemy, gaining roughly 2k hit pts

WHAAAAAAT

u mean for same npc sutff my nuke dmg will be
600 using s/s
1k using spear
?????
a 40% is a lot of difference special at high levels
correct me if i'am wrong please

lets look at this another way, a shield block=-100% dmg

correct me if im wrong, but i think 100% dif is > 40% dif?

spear pve, s/s pvp for pure ints

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:34 pm

Do what embodiment does
80 spear 80 sword 80 fire 60 light

*I don't count on the 90 being released anytime soon*

Post by **Rainigul** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:29 pm

†erminal wrote:Do what embodiment does
80 spear 80 sword 80 fire 60 light
*I don't count on the 90 being released anytime soon*

I think 80 fire, 80 light, 70 sword, 70 spear is better.
I'm not sure why Embodiment does what he does...

Dual wep is pretty fun, but if you play it hardcore, then there's not as much of a point. I mean, Embodiment uses spear purely for ghost spear (and passive, and I assume he uses fan spear).

Also, spear is only about 1.18 times stronger than sword when nuking.

I'd switch to sword buddy. The leaving heuksal at 30 for passive is a good idea as well.

Senbonzakura · Post by **Senbonzakura** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:37 pm

I'm not a pro or anything, but it seems to me like you should restart? Or...

Wizard_EG · Post by **Wizard_EG** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:35 pm

what do you mean by 80 & 60 skills
i'm playing no silk no bot

If i ever reach 52 it till be a great achievement for me
beside i'm lazy i won't farm that much sp
i'm going gap 6 now

(so soon gap 9 )
+
i can restart my char. in only 1 situation
If i want a pure str char :p

btw i have a level 57 pure str glavie (retired)
deleveing skills won't take that much
(it coasted me like 1m for every 9 skills at level 5x)

glavie · Post by **glavie** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:07 pm

I think shadow is exaggerating on the damage difference between sword and spear, but I wouldn't trust myself really since I haven't tried both on the same character.

You can just find out for yourself when you get your nukes i guess.

Don't forget that it isn't a 1k hp difference it is less since you can put str on your shield.