Going For The Best?

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Wed May 30, 2007 7:09 am

Okey someone said in another post
best build for bowman is 70:70
then to go 80:80 thas the best build bowman got

so i was thinking of going 80:80 but i got a little problem.
can any1 tell me how to fix this?(all my items are off)

cin · Post by **cin** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:51 am

SaveMe wrote:Okey someone said in another post
best build for bowman is 70:70
then to go 80:80 thas the best build bowman got

so i was thinking of going 80:80 but i got a little problem.
can any1 tell me how to fix this?(all my items are off)

in the char builder (bobtheveg one) you can check your lvl and
points up to now and then up your lvl to 70 or 80 to see how
many points you need to put in str or int to get the right balance.

i see that you are pure str up to now. that is definitly also a good
build for a bowman.

here is the build when you are 80 with all int from now on:
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... file=27097

if you add int from now on and ONLY int you will have a balance of

72:66 str:int on 70 and 69:70 str:int on 80.

so, if you plan on going all the way to the cap, you can end up 70:70
balance on the later levels, and until then, because you are str based,
you will definitly not have a bad build. pure str and str hybrid bowmen
have proven to be good.

just check it out for yourself. conclusion is that you CAN end up as a
70:70 hybrid and 80:80 with the right str and int on your gear on high
levels.

Mefra · Post by **Mefra** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:01 am

Well, I'm also building a 70/70 build, but I'm not sure if it's even gonna be a very good build. Pure str bowman and hybrid str are proven to be good, but 70/70 aren't really in favor of most people. I'm just gonna build the 70/70 for fun, because I think it's a really fun build to play with and very versatile...

cin · Post by **cin** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:04 am

Mefra wrote:Well, I'm also building a 70/70 build, but I'm not sure if it's even gonna be a very good build. Pure str bowman and hybrid str are proven to be good, but 70/70 aren't really in favor of most people. I'm just gonna build the 70/70 for fun, because I think it's a really fun build to play with and very versatile...

there has been at least 1 70/70 archer proven very very strong. liquidsmooth
actually made a thread about his build with the whole build explained, but has
deleted his build post because he was only getting flamed by pure builds of
somewhat smallminded people (not all of them!) that kept on saying it was
impossible that a build, different than theirs, could be as good as theirs or
even better.

i think 70/70 can be very strong. ive seen the screens liquid posted and all of
em were without uber gear.

Mefra · Post by **Mefra** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:58 am

I also think that it can be strong, but that all depends on how you use the skills and how well you're tactic is. As I already said, it's probably one of the most versatile builds, but without the right tactic also one of the weakest...

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:07 pm

im not planing of geting good gear at this level i want to get good ass hell garmet at lvl 60+ i think lvl 3x,4x,5x is a wasted of money.

glavie · Post by **glavie** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:24 pm

SaveMe wrote:im not planing of geting good gear at this level i want to get good ass hell garmet at lvl 60+ i think lvl 3x,4x,5x is a wasted of money.

Is that gold buyer talk?
I don't understand?

If you buy good gear at a good price then chances are you will sell it for a higher price when you are done.
Yeah if you do alchemy to gear you wont get your money back when you sell it, but just buy some gear with some good blues allready there.

Good gear allows you to grind faster > level faster> do better in jobbing/pvp.

Why wouldn't you want good gear at all levels?

*EDIT*
How do you plan to afford good gear at 60+.
The way most people do it is sell alchemy to high levels, and buy low sell high.

*edit*
Where is this info on liquid Smooth? I am very interested in his build.

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:38 pm

cin wrote:there has been at least 1 70/70 archer proven very very strong. liquidsmooth

Str heavy hybrid, not 70:70 (Int hybrid)

I still havent seen this 70:70 build proven by anyone. Im eager to see it though. I honestly dont think its all its cracked up to be but unless someone takes it to cap and does some testing, we just dont know.

Mefra · Post by **Mefra** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:39 pm

I believe that guy LiquidSmooth's post has been deleted, or at least the information on the build. It was here on the forum, but when you search for the author LiquidSmooth you can find the topic about the archer, but the first post says that he doesn't post anymore...

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:41 pm

Mefra wrote:I believe that guy LiquidSmooth's post has been deleted, or at least the information on the build. It was here on the forum, but when you search for the author LiquidSmooth you can find the topic about the archer, but the first post says that he doesn't post anymore...

Just go find his "OMG IM THE GREATEST" thread and look at his HP\MP stats. He is nowhere near 70:70

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:45 am

glavie wrote:
SaveMe wrote:im not planing of geting good gear at this level i want to get good ass hell garmet at lvl 60+ i think lvl 3x,4x,5x is a wasted of money.

Is that gold buyer talk?
I don't understand?

If you buy good gear at a good price then chances are you will sell it for a higher price when you are done.
Yeah if you do alchemy to gear you wont get your money back when you sell it, but just buy some gear with some good blues allready there.

Good gear allows you to grind faster > level faster> do better in jobbing/pvp.

Why wouldn't you want good gear at all levels?

*EDIT*
How do you plan to afford good gear at 60+.
The way most people do it is sell alchemy to high levels, and buy low sell high.

*edit*
Where is this info on liquid Smooth? I am very interested in his build.

i don't got time to be buying stuff for cheap and selling for high price im doing hell fine with my weak armor right now i just want to level.
and i do use alchemys on my items,i make my stones and i find my elixer
if you buy stuff is because you want.

An like i said i'm not into PvP is boring and a wasted of pot.

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 12:58 am

glavie wrote:Is that gold buyer talk?
I don't understand?

*edit*
Where is this info on liquid Smooth? I am very interested in his build.

i dont get it. whats this about gooldbuyer talk?
some ppl like to spend a long time on getting good equips and having
an easy time leveling and grinding, others like to spend more time grinding
and get their good gear at a higher level. this can work fine, especially
since SaveMe isnt really into pvp.

SaveMe wrote:i don't got time to be buying stuff for cheap and selling for high price im doing hell fine with my weak armor right now i just want to level.
and i do use alchemys on my items,i make my stones and i find my elixer
if you buy stuff is because you want.

An like i said i'm not into PvP is boring and a wasted of pot.

this is okay, but eventually you will probably have to resell anyways..
high levels i know pimp out blue or sox gear just to sell it for more money.
a friend of mine had a spear worth 10kk-ish, alchemied the magic atk i
think and was able to sell it for 30kk. thats how you get the big bucks.

@glavie about liquids build.. he deleted it from his topic. all i know is that
its a 70/70 hybrid bow. maybe worth to send him a pm if you are really
interested.

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:21 am

i did PM him,but then i saw this guy hes name on this forum is
"mike2005"

and he did more damage than liquid and hes lower level.
do you know hes stat?

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:38 am

SaveMe wrote:i did PM him,but then i saw this guy hes name on this forum is
"mike2005"

and he did more damage than liquid and hes lower level.
do you know hes stat?

that screenshot?

i believe there is a comment about it one or two pages later, something like:

"wow you show us that 70/70 does own!"

i think i quoted that pic somewhere too.

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:00 am

70:70 = Int Hybrid = More MP than HP

Both of them, liquid and mike, have more HP than MP which = Str Hybrid =\= 70:70

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:03 am

EllisD wrote:70:70 = Int Hybrid = More MP than HP

Both of them, liquid and mike, have more HP than MP which = Str Hybrid =\= 70:70

ok then why did they tell everybody they were?

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:24 am

lol, ive been scrambling to find backup for what i said. I know i read it, but just wanted to show.

Quote from the infamous 70:70 thread

I.WANNA.BE.MADE wrote:

made with character build applet : http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/

phy. balance : 81 % mag. balance : 82%

the - 90 stat points are the attributs of equipment

str : 221 int : 254 --> so it isnt 1:1 hybrid

So this would be the "ideal" 70:70 build with gear to bring it to roughly 80:80.

Mikes ss:

liquids ss:

Both Hybrid Str's though it looks like Mike is more balanced where liquid has more str

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:31 am

dang good research. i didnt know that.

so then whats with everybody saying they are 70/70 and they are not?
this is bad -_-

cookies to u.

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:38 am

cin wrote:dang good research. i didnt know that.

so then whats with everybody saying they are 70/70 and they are not?
this is bad -_-

cookies to u.

mmmm, cookiez

It was part of a great confusion i believe. Jadekiss came and told everyone about the "greatest bow build" then some hybrid bowers started popping up and people just grouped them together i guess. I really dont know.

Still to this day though, i havent seen the 70:70 build proven but like i said earlier, am eager to. I think the closest we have at the moment is Tomitor with his 1:1. He has some impressive damage also.

This is what we need the inter-server PVP arena for

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:22 am

EllisD wrote:
cin wrote:dang good research. i didnt know that.

so then whats with everybody saying they are 70/70 and they are not?
this is bad -_-

cookies to u.

mmmm, cookiez

It was part of a great confusion i believe. Jadekiss came and told everyone about the "greatest bow build" then some hybrid bowers started popping up and people just grouped them together i guess. I really dont know.

Still to this day though, i havent seen the 70:70 build proven but like i said earlier, am eager to. I think the closest we have at the moment is Tomitor with his 1:1. He has some impressive damage also.

This is what we need the inter-server PVP arena for

sweet. so only proven good archers so far are pure str and hybrid str?

Hitman144 · Post by **Hitman144** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:01 am

NO 80:80 BOW MAN DO ALRIGHT BUT WHO KNOW HOW THEY ARE AT 90 CAP, but i would stay pure str if i was u

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:06 am

hitman144 wrote:NO 80:80 BOW MAN DO ALRIGHT BUT WHO KNOW HOW THEY ARE AT 90 CAP, but i would stay pure str if i was u

okay.. then where is your proof? my 80:80 proof just turned out to be
wrongly informed.

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:13 am

I think i get it now all i need is to get 70:70 without armor then,buy good armor to have a 80:80? thas how it works?

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:15 am

SaveMe wrote:I think i get it now all i need is to get 70:70 without armor then,buy good armor to have a 80:80? thas how it works?

thats how 80:80 works. but i just heard from ellisd that the ones who posted
their 70:70 builds have too much hp compared to mp to be a 70:70. they
have more physical than magical balance.

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:08 am

im like so confuse right now lol.

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:12 am

dont be. just keep on adding int from now on. the 2 hybrids that i posted
about werent 70:70 but were str hybrid bowmen. they were nonetheless
very strong. just add int from here and you will be fine as a hybrid. in the
meantime we can find out what builds the other 2 were by putting those
stats in the char builder.

either you do that and end up like the 2 that been posted and that do good
damage, or stay a pure str. but id go for the str hybrid. they also have more
mp which may come in useful with some of the new skills.

fena · Post by **fena** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:38 am

SaveMe wrote:im like so confuse right now lol.

I'm not sure if Cin's right, TBH, but that's only because I've never had that much experience with Hybrid Bowmen before.
Sounds right, though, from what I DO know.

And besides, Cin is almost, almost ALWAYS right. 99.99%.
Except for like, this thread:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=43555

So when he talks, pay attention to him, because chances are, he's giving you good advice. So don't be confused.

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:42 am

I don't want to be like then. i want to be even better
just give me a few months i will be posting my damage when i hit level 70
and trust me it will be better than does 2 Legends up there

.

Oh yeah the was funny what your friend post Cin

hahahaha.

Mefra · Post by **Mefra** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:18 am

Hi guys, as posten before I'm starting the 70/70 build. But I was wondering. With the 70/70 you would do the same physical as magical damage (except offcourse for the differences in skills).

So if would go 1int:1str instead, this would leaves me having more powerful str attack than magical attacks?

The thing is, I want to get both physical and magical the same (if you get my point), but I'm wondering in which case that would turn out.

So 1:1 (int/str) or 70/70 (mag% and phys%)

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:23 am

FenaCorp wrote:
SaveMe wrote:im like so confuse right now lol.

I'm not sure if Cin's right, TBH, but that's only because I've never had that much experience with Hybrid Bowmen before.
Sounds right, though, from what I DO know.

And besides, Cin is almost, almost ALWAYS right. 99.99%.
Except for like, this thread:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=43555

So when he talks, pay attention to him, because chances are, he's giving you good advice. So don't be confused.

u meanie

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