Str Glaive: Lightening or Force

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:10 am

Current setup:
Heuksal 74
Fire 68
Lightening 40
Cold 35
Force 40

Now in my guild/union we need a high resser. Should i take this into consideration as a full str glaive? Or is this really a waste of build?
Currently we are creating a resser but since this is a second character it is only level 30.
And since 3 of us will be capped within a month more trades / wars / yarkan raids etc will come up. In short we need a high level resser.
Should i consider doing this?
Eg.
Heuksal 80
Fire 80
Force 70
Lightening 40
Cold 30

Or will this crush the purpose of a full str glaive?

blutrausch · Post by **blutrausch** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:13 am

its a waste, and 5 balances bring you to nowhere ATM
you need lightning so you can kill enemy nukers, they would run away from you otherwise
edit: for 90 without new skills:
90heuk
74fire
68cold
68light

DarkLaw · Post by **DarkLaw** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:15 am

hmm is ice really needed for pure strs? as pure ints imo dont need it and str have more hp

Chaby · Post by **Chaby** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:16 am

Cold on 30 is worthless. Waste of mastery. My build is/was heuskal 80/ fire 70/ light 68/ force 69/ pacheon 13

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:17 am

hmm i lack to see the advantage in having ice besides the passive and buff.
Hmm kinda confusing...
Is a healer an int or str build?

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:17 am

my build atm

73 bow
68fire
69 force
65 light

DarkLaw · Post by **DarkLaw** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:18 am

*off Topic* chaby any news on your acc mate?

lexies2 · Post by **lexies2** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:19 am

Ice will have it's glory soon enough! When they fix the bug...no one will be resistant every again! And the ice nukers/ice bladers shall come from their graves and wreak an icy storm on all who oppose!

Chaby · Post by **Chaby** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:21 am

DarkLaw wrote:*off Topic* chaby any news on your acc mate?

PayPal asked me to fax them my credit card bill so it shows name, adress, and number like on paypal account. I got the bill today faxed it 15 minutes ago. Don't know how will it work out, as the credit card bill is on company name.

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:21 am

lexies2 wrote:Ice will have it's glory soon enough! When they fix the bug...no one will be resistant every again! And the ice nukers/ice bladers shall come from their graves and wreak an icy storm on all who oppose!

why is it a bug?
or was that sarcasm i didnt catch

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:25 am

Chaby wrote:Cold on 30 is worthless. Waste of mastery. My build is/was heuskal 80/ fire 70/ light 68/ force 69/ pacheon 13

And how does it turn out?
I mean, is the build capable of tanking (where it is made for) and does it get advantage from the force tree (like vital spot etc...)

lexies2 · Post by **lexies2** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:28 am

Zypher wrote:
lexies2 wrote:Ice will have it's glory soon enough! When they fix the bug...no one will be resistant every again! And the ice nukers/ice bladers shall come from their graves and wreak an icy storm on all who oppose!

why is it a bug?
or was that sarcasm i didnt catch

Nobody was "supposed" to be resistant...just another thing JM looked over.. :roll:

No, it wasn't sarcasm. (lol I can never tell if somone is sarcastic on the internet either...)

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:30 am

lexies2 wrote:
Zypher wrote:
lexies2 wrote:Ice will have it's glory soon enough! When they fix the bug...no one will be resistant every again! And the ice nukers/ice bladers shall come from their graves and wreak an icy storm on all who oppose!

why is it a bug?
or was that sarcasm i didnt catch
Nobody was "supposed" to be resistant...just another thing JM looked over..

No, it wasn't sarcasm. (lol I can never tell if somone is sarcastic on the internet either...)

if they wasnt spose to be resistant, why would they make the tabs?

:[

@Pout
honestly dude, glaive isnt mean to be a support char
as in ressing, yes its a good build but adding ress to it is taking away from the char imo.
thats why i changed to bow considering i was a support char anyways.

lexies2 · Post by **lexies2** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:40 am

Zypher wrote:
lexies2 wrote:
Zypher wrote:
lexies2 wrote:Ice will have it's glory soon enough! When they fix the bug...no one will be resistant every again! And the ice nukers/ice bladers shall come from their graves and wreak an icy storm on all who oppose!

why is it a bug?
or was that sarcasm i didnt catch
Nobody was "supposed" to be resistant...just another thing JM looked over..

No, it wasn't sarcasm. (lol I can never tell if somone is sarcastic on the internet either...)

if they wasnt spose to be resistant, why would they make the tabs?

:[

@Pout
honestly dude, glaive isnt mean to be a support char
as in ressing, yes its a good build but adding ress to it is taking away from the char imo.
thats why i changed to bow considering i was a support char anyways.

The tabs were alright, but when you mix it with that fire shield, it makes you resistant. The only way ice is "actually" useful is in euro, where the ice is the 2nd most strongest skill from fire (earth doesn't count)...

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:48 am

[quote="Zypher]
honestly dude, glaive isnt mean to be a support char
as in ressing, yes its a good build but adding ress to it is taking away from the char imo.
thats why i changed to bow considering i was a support char anyways.[/quote]

K thx, as i thought.
Probably do more bad then good to first make it a ress and being kind of worthless till the other character is a full healer

iGod · Post by **iGod** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:58 am

lexies2 wrote:
Zypher wrote:
lexies2 wrote:Ice will have it's glory soon enough! When they fix the bug...no one will be resistant every again! And the ice nukers/ice bladers shall come from their graves and wreak an icy storm on all who oppose!

why is it a bug?
or was that sarcasm i didnt catch
Nobody was "supposed" to be resistant...just another thing JM looked over..

No, it wasn't sarcasm. (lol I can never tell if somone is sarcastic on the internet either...)

I hope you'll be happy about that when you grind on karras without being immune to zombie and the mofos mob you.

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:06 pm

Karras are indeed a pain in the ass for that zombie status

Braxton · Post by **Braxton** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:18 pm

Str anything imho should only be Weapon skill, Light, Fire all maxed. Works for my 68 str fire blader and my str fire glaiver

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:57 pm

90 w/ no new skills:

similar to blutrausch : 90 heuk 75 fire 67 light 68 cold.

If get new skills, trashing ice and going 90/90/90 and doing whatever with last 30...maybe res for newbie stuff

Shouldn't be hard to delvl ice if don't add many skills there...just buff and passive.

PureOwnage · Post by **PureOwnage** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:17 pm

Best pure str glaive build, which insidently will be my build:

80 Spear, 80 fire, 70 light, 70 ice. Or once the cap goes 90, 90 spear 90 fire 70 light, 50 ice.

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:30 pm

I've been wondering the same thing ice or force and I'm going with force cause what none of you have noticed is that force has an mp bonous which helps a pure str ALOt!!! so i'm uping my force dion't a whole lot i'm keeping in 5 or 10 lvls lower then my fire/light/glavie so I'd say go force get the extra mp and heck if you have enough sp it's always nice to get the threapy ring a little ress every guild loves a resser

MastaChiefX · Post by **MastaChiefX** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:33 pm

Tasdik wrote:I've been wondering the same thing ice or force and I'm going with force cause what none of you have noticed is that force has an mp bonous which helps a pure str ALOt!!! so i'm uping my force dion't a whole lot i'm keeping in 5 or 10 lvls lower then my fire/light/glavie so I'd say go force get the extra mp and heck if you have enough sp it's always nice to get the threapy ring a little ress every guild loves a resser

I like force, but how does it help EVEN alittle bit.