New Skills

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:09 am

What exactly are you guys whining about? The new skills won't look drastically different because they are in the same skill series... We aren't getting a new SKILL, we are getting a new book in the same skill series. Thus, it makes perfect sense that they resemble the older books...

I am on the other hand excited for the new books, but I'd rather see the percentages and description for the skills... I mean, how much damage percent do the new books do? How much extra hp, block, parry, AR, mana, etc will the passives give?

_Sevve · Post by **_Sevve** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:34 am

Nyahgis wrote:What exactly are you guys whining about? The new skills won't look drastically different because they are in the same skill series... We aren't getting a new SKILL, we are getting a new book in the same skill series. Thus, it makes perfect sense that they resemble the older books...

I am on the other hand excited for the new books, but I'd rather see the percentages and description for the skills... I mean, how much damage percent do the new books do? How much extra hp, block, parry, AR, mana, etc will the passives give?

+7

Khalephax · Post by **Khalephax** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:41 am

_Sevve wrote:
Nyahgis wrote:What exactly are you guys whining about? The new skills won't look drastically different because they are in the same skill series... We aren't getting a new SKILL, we are getting a new book in the same skill series. Thus, it makes perfect sense that they resemble the older books...

I am on the other hand excited for the new books, but I'd rather see the percentages and description for the skills... I mean, how much damage percent do the new books do? How much extra hp, block, parry, AR, mana, etc will the passives give?

+7

+9 imo. Needs the blue/green glow.

I personally like the new anims, even if they are similar to old ones, if not nearly the same. I esp. like the move where it looks like the glaiver is spinning on his spear :shock:

I'd really like to see the books, damages, %. Is there a like to them anywhere? And I'd like to see the new force skills (fire/ice/light.. hell even force healing tree lol)

mKaaru · Post by **mKaaru** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:25 am

im gonna play that glaiver in few

<3 stef
<3 vendetta

new vids will prolly come this friday, talked to boybi about and he'll try to make some better vids. close up, multiple angles, slow motion scene, that be tight

but im looking forward playing that glaiver :twisted:

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:08 am

Nyahgis wrote:What exactly are you guys whining about? The new skills won't look drastically different because they are in the same skill series... We aren't getting a new SKILL, we are getting a new book in the same skill series. Thus, it makes perfect sense that they resemble the older books...

I am on the other hand excited for the new books, but I'd rather see the percentages and description for the skills... I mean, how much damage percent do the new books do? How much extra hp, block, parry, AR, mana, etc will the passives give?

+25

Nyahgis is so right. if you guys really think that way, u even could say, that 3rd book stab is like 1st book stab, but only two times or in 3rd book soul spear u can recognize 1st book soul spear and a little bit 2nd book soul spear -.-. so stfu u ..... noobs.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:08 am

Khalephax wrote:I esp. like the move where it looks like the glaiver is spinning on his spear

thats already on Isro - spirit crash spear

VforVendetta · Post by **VforVendetta** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:17 am

Nothing to be really excited over in my opinion, just looks like rushed jobs by Joymax, all the skills are just rehashes of the last ones with maybe new effects and damage. Not to mention we'll never get this update.

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:27 am

Nothing to be really excited over in my opinion, just looks like rushed jobs by Joymax, all the skills are just rehashes of the last ones with maybe new effects and damage. Not to mention we'll never get this update.

What makes everybody think we will never receive any updates? Common guys... don't be so ignorant. Just because it appears that iSRO is the bitch version of kSRO, it does have one of the largest player bases [compared to kSRO], and is developing, in terms of income and player size, faster than kSRO. We just got a USA moderation team, the GMs are becoming more active, and it appears that Joymax is implementing whatever it can to 'patch' issues such as botting and ccfing. Both are still around, but you can't tell me any other game doesn't have this same issue. Try kSRO and you'll find the same issues there. I found a cute row of 20+ gold botters humping the Stable NPC there.

kSRO is obviously the 'testing' ground for the new updates, but we have also been receiving these, even though its at a fairly slow pace. But look at WoW for instance. They were promised the Burning Crusade expansion 6 months before the actual date it came out. Companies have set backs like this. Once kSRO takes greater steps to expand the USA moderation team, I believe we'll see bots banned quicker and updates showing up quicker. Hell, we might even see some of those fun events that you see in tSRO, jSRO, and kSRO.

-Updates my Noob ass has been waiting for fairly patiently-
-Job Update
-Gambling Update
-Skill Update
-Silk Gift

VforVendetta · Post by **VforVendetta** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:39 am

Nyahgis wrote:
Nothing to be really excited over in my opinion, just looks like rushed jobs by Joymax, all the skills are just rehashes of the last ones with maybe new effects and damage. Not to mention we'll never get this update.

What makes everybody think we will never receive any updates? Common guys... don't be so ignorant. Just because it appears that iSRO is the bitch version of kSRO, it does have one of the largest player bases [compared to kSRO], and is developing, in terms of income and player size, faster than kSRO. We just got a USA moderation team, the GMs are becoming more active, and it appears that Joymax is implementing whatever it can to 'patch' issues such as botting and ccfing. Both are still around, but you can't tell me any other game doesn't have this same issue. Try kSRO and you'll find the same issues there. I found a cute row of 20+ gold botters humping the Stable NPC there.

kSRO is obviously the 'testing' ground for the new updates, but we have also been receiving these, even though its at a fairly slow pace. But look at WoW for instance. They were promised the Burning Crusade expansion 6 months before the actual date it came out. Companies have set backs like this. Once kSRO takes greater steps to expand the USA moderation team, I believe we'll see bots banned quicker and updates showing up quicker. Hell, we might even see some of those fun events that you see in tSRO, jSRO, and kSRO.

-Updates my Noob ass has been waiting for fairly patiently-
-Job Update
-Gambling Update
-Skill Update
-Silk Gift

I appreciate your enthusiasm I really do, but your forgetting this is the same Joymax that just recently released 2 new servers within 2 days so that they would make up money losses from the ban list that took them maybe over a year to do.

And what makes me think we will never get these updates is just the fact that there is no GM or Joymax interaction with players what so ever, were just hostages always left in the dark only able to guess whats going to happen next. We need more people like you to keep iSRO alive but im just being a realist I know when a company is screwing over its customers, and right here and right now Joymax has one big ass screwdriver and is screwing us all over big time.

The Job update was promised for last year, but was completely abandoned, as they realized they wouldn't make any new income figures. and would only be spending money on iSRO (Which to them is a retarded step child that they neglect).

And back on the new skill topic. Since were nowhere near to having even the 90 cap or even the Europe Beta. When do you think we'll be getting any new updates of this kind? its a rhetorical questions, as we all know the answer.

Once again I appreciate your enthusiasm.

Post by **Stress** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:02 am

New soul spear looks like shit.
New ghost spear is Awsome. New wolf bite is not bad.

New bicheon chain is shit.

Archer skills are just great. The knockbacks and stuns are going to be very cool

EDIT: strong bow stuns now .... at last worth getting

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:12 am

VforVendetta wrote:
Nyahgis wrote:
Nothing to be really excited over in my opinion, just looks like rushed jobs by Joymax, all the skills are just rehashes of the last ones with maybe new effects and damage. Not to mention we'll never get this update.

What makes everybody think we will never receive any updates? Common guys... don't be so ignorant. Just because it appears that iSRO is the bitch version of kSRO, it does have one of the largest player bases [compared to kSRO], and is developing, in terms of income and player size, faster than kSRO. We just got a USA moderation team, the GMs are becoming more active, and it appears that Joymax is implementing whatever it can to 'patch' issues such as botting and ccfing. Both are still around, but you can't tell me any other game doesn't have this same issue. Try kSRO and you'll find the same issues there. I found a cute row of 20+ gold botters humping the Stable NPC there.

kSRO is obviously the 'testing' ground for the new updates, but we have also been receiving these, even though its at a fairly slow pace. But look at WoW for instance. They were promised the Burning Crusade expansion 6 months before the actual date it came out. Companies have set backs like this. Once kSRO takes greater steps to expand the USA moderation team, I believe we'll see bots banned quicker and updates showing up quicker. Hell, we might even see some of those fun events that you see in tSRO, jSRO, and kSRO.

-Updates my Noob ass has been waiting for fairly patiently-
-Job Update
-Gambling Update
-Skill Update
-Silk Gift

I appreciate your enthusiasm I really do, but your forgetting this is the same Joymax that just recently released 2 new servers within 2 days so that they would make up money losses from the ban list that took them maybe over a year to do.

And what makes me think we will never get these updates is just the fact that there is no GM or Joymax interaction with players what so ever, were just hostages always left in the dark only able to guess whats going to happen next. We need more people like you to keep iSRO alive but im just being a realist I know when a company is screwing over its customers, and right here and right now Joymax has one big ass screwdriver and is screwing us all over big time.

The Job update was promised for last year, but was completely abandoned, as they realized they wouldn't make any new income figures. and would only be spending money on iSRO (Which to them is a retarded step child that they neglect).

And back on the new skill topic. Since were nowhere near to having even the 90 cap or even the Europe Beta. When do you think we'll be getting any new updates of this kind? its a rhetorical questions, as we all know the answer.

Once again I appreciate your enthusiasm.

I try my best to stay enthusiastic. It's all that I've got left and manages to keep me playing. I do have to say though, that unless JM releases atleast a notice summarizing future coming updates, Acclaim will start getting my money for 2moons.

OT: Can we get any information on the passives and buffs? All I know at this time is that the maxed bicheon passive yields a 10% increase on block. What about hp for heuksai?

Plague · Post by **Plague** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:34 am

yo i agree with elemental. I think these guys edited these skills, if you look at blade combo it looks like it skips from 2nd book to 3rd
i play ksro and havent heard of these skilsl yet. I may be rong but i thin kthese were edited.[/quote]

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:37 am

From Tavern... Here's your kSRO blader skills. And no, it isn't edited Plague. This is on the test server, not the actual servers yet.

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12131968qi5.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12132209td5.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12132619td9.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12132713in3.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12133045ek5.jpg
http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12133329wr4.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12133431ue2.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12154587vu7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12154726fx1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12161917us9.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12164486gp7.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12172827be9.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12183526ce0.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12191768hz8.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12205112wo7.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12212020ql0.jpg

Post by **Stress** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:24 pm

As far as i've seen, the new bicheon chain starts with the first 2 hits from billow chain, then 2 hits from heaven and 2 hits from ascention.

EDIT: the new knockdown skill has front range radius, and will likely require lv18 of the soul blade force.

The new stun has 50% probability to do something.... no idea what, however.

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:29 pm

Some more from Tavern...

ice passive 132 phy def
Heuksal passive 2896 hp
Fire passive 9 % phy attack

Looks like non-heuksai users will now be missing out on almost 3k hp. This will definitely set a big difference between int S/S and int spear... I'm liking this ^^

dE4 · Post by **dE4** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:52 pm

Plague wrote:yo i agree with elemental. I think these guys edited these skills, if you look at blade combo it looks like it skips from 2nd book to 3rd
i play ksro and havent heard of these skilsl yet. I may be rong but i thin kthese were edited.

[/quote]

Sry to say but these skills come from ksro - legend VI test server NOT ksro and they are the new skills. Read the site...

hahahah cs bug in sro

djpatje · Post by **djpatje** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:40 pm

does anyone know the specs of the new bird ? does it come with atk rating and a atk or and do u need the black bird maxed or the blue one ":):)

mKaaru · Post by **mKaaru** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:51 pm

enjoyed playing the beta with ettje and wakko

euro characters are overpowered as fak, mages doing crazy dmg on me as well as their str based builds!

with the npc gear first tier of 9th degree equipment, all int builds are simply dead fish in the water :p i died so fast i didnt even knew what hit me! i played a pure int bich light cold, but the new cold buff is simply AMAZING. that combined with iron shield its an uber tanking build capable of high damage. the new buff even lasts for a long period of time, unlike iron shield or the snake storm series. without those 2 buffs its an easy kill in 1v1.

the new glaive skills are fast, accurate and do good damage.

wtf am i all saying, KSRO BETA ROX! :twisted:

cant wait for isro to get shit like that

dE4 · Post by **dE4** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:10 pm

Here's how the new butterfly skill series works

hella funny skill

mKaaru killing you and ettje was a pleasure

sloweredmangyang · Post by **sloweredmangyang** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:13 pm

EllisD wrote:Dam work blockin youtube now

Cant wait to check em out.

school

they block freakin everything here. post again when i get home.

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:25 pm

The Pacheon Skill that hits two targets is the new book? I could think it's Autumn Wind book 4. Anyway~ I'll be happy if this update comes while I still am playing, because I'm an archer.

dE4 · Post by **dE4** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:41 pm

HakubiNi wrote:The Pacheon Skill that hits two targets is the new book? I could think it's Autumn Wind book 4. Anyway~ I'll be happy if this update comes while I still am playing, because I'm an archer.

I do know what skills I used lol

autumn is no.6 on the hotbar

and count the targets again too ^^ or else I'm drunk

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:46 pm

Nyahgis wrote:From Tavern... Here's your kSRO blader skills. And no, it isn't edited Plague. This is on the test server, not the actual servers yet.

http://img487.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12131968qi5.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12132209td5.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12132619td9.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12132713in3.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12133045ek5.jpg
http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12133329wr4.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12133431ue2.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12154587vu7.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12154726fx1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12161917us9.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sr...12164486gp7.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12172827be9.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12183526ce0.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12191768hz8.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12205112wo7.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s...12212020ql0.jpg

which is what? how can i recognize the skills?

IcE_ · Post by **IcE_** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:28 pm

mKaaru wrote:enjoyed playing the beta with ettje and wakko
euro characters are overpowered as fak, mages doing crazy dmg on me as well as their str based builds!

with the npc gear first tier of 9th degree equipment, all int builds are simply dead fish in the water :p i died so fast i didnt even knew what hit me! i played a pure int bich light cold, but the new cold buff is simply AMAZING. that combined with iron shield its an uber tanking build capable of high damage. the new buff even lasts for a long period of time, unlike iron shield or the snake storm series. without those 2 buffs its an easy kill in 1v1.

the new glaive skills are fast, accurate and do good damage.

wtf am i all saying, KSRO BETA ROX! cant wait for isro to get shit like that

so the new ice passive gives 132 phy def, how about the new buff? how much phy def is that, just want to know how much phy def i'd be losing by giving up the cold tree

dE4 · Post by **dE4** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:30 pm

IcE_ wrote:
mKaaru wrote:enjoyed playing the beta with ettje and wakko
euro characters are overpowered as fak, mages doing crazy dmg on me as well as their str based builds!

with the npc gear first tier of 9th degree equipment, all int builds are simply dead fish in the water :p i died so fast i didnt even knew what hit me! i played a pure int bich light cold, but the new cold buff is simply AMAZING. that combined with iron shield its an uber tanking build capable of high damage. the new buff even lasts for a long period of time, unlike iron shield or the snake storm series. without those 2 buffs its an easy kill in 1v1.

the new glaive skills are fast, accurate and do good damage.

wtf am i all saying, KSRO BETA ROX! cant wait for isro to get shit like that

so the new ice passive gives 132 phy def, how about the new buff? how much phy def is that, just want to know how much phy def i'd be losing by giving up the cold tree

132 puff + 132 passive = what you will lose at least cuz new ice puff tree is very nice

Nyahgis · Post by **Nyahgis** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:31 pm

Shit... with that much extra physical defense [ 264 O.o ], to be missing out on that blows... I hate having to make choices like this. Having to give up fire for ice is way too tough of a decision. Trading magical defense, status immunity, the fire imbue, physical damage increase, kick ass nukes for a shit load of physical defense and that cool new ice skill with damage reduction (mana shield) is making life difficult -.-v

What would others do? I'm a 30 str [89% naked balance at the 90 cap] hybrid spear int. Current masteries are fire, light, and spear. Would it really be worth it to trade fire for ice? I'd still have the light imbue... parry increase, walking speed, some decent nukes, but fire is so farkin important -.-

grafter01 · Post by **grafter01** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:33 pm

Can u tell us what the buffs are for lightning and Force. i was contemplating ditching frost for Force if the new skills are really nice.

Lightning - Parry ratio passive/ buff +? / new skills
Force - new skills/ debuff of parry-hit ratios #s ? / how much hp does the new lvl heal toaists hands give?

Thanks a lot appreciate you giving us non koreans some translation of the skills. Been searching everywhere and no one has translated them yet.

grafter01 · Post by **grafter01** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:35 pm

wait there's a new ice skill that adds even more phys reduction?? or are u talking about the iceblock thing?

egyptology · Post by **egyptology** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:08 pm

I forgot who was saying it, but I'm a bow blader. Bow....is a worthless tree as of now. Literally, unless you have a +6 or more bow vs. a glaive or antoher bowman or nuker (spear), you will never win. The best moves (strong bow) takes soooo much time to prepare that it's only useful if you're sniping per se, no one actually ever uses it.

Anti devil...it's a lot more fair now that the execution time is reduced. It's not even that amazing of a move IMO, it's more of a I hope I get a crit and kill this guy....or else he won't die.....ever.....

and in the vid, the guys pots are at 99% or at least 70%. Right after the damage, he pots back up to full.

mKaaru · Post by **mKaaru** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:11 pm

after playing that beta im done with isro

just want those skills, features up ASAP

knowing joymax that will happen 2 years from now