"No sex please, we're daddy's little girls."

Anh_Hung_Rom · Post by **Anh_Hung_Rom** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:58 pm

Good article to read.

Definitely a big plus in the Christian values. And personally, I agree with it because it's not a forceful method of doing thing (like disowning your daughter blah blah...).

Sharp324 · Post by **Sharp324** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:33 pm

Nice article, i agree with it.

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:39 pm

i like the concept of the daughter not having sex until married, because now adays kinds having sex in middle school, hell they could of started in elem school now for all i know.

but having these ceramonies for it is just a tad bit weird imo.

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:43 pm

Hah, i agree, but wait till they're older when the sexual hormones kick in. She won't be daddy's little girl then. Well..probably, but she'll still have thoughts...

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:44 pm

Sex starts earlier than you think.

These ceremonies do nothing. You cannot stop the world from turning, and spinning you with it, no matter how hard you stand on the ground.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:45 pm

ugh
my two least favorite demographics in one article
Christians and Conservatives

You don't need a Ball you stay a virgin i doubt most families could afford somethign like that in america. Not to mention the insanely high divorce rate in the US so many "christians" breaking there wedding vows while at the same time denying gays the right to marry...

i know im a tad off topic but seeing the media glamorize the life of conservative christians in the US is starting to become annoying....its not news worthy that people are staying virgins till they're married and its certainly NOT a conservative christian thing *cough* teenage catholic pregnancy *cough*

LuV3r8o1 · Post by **LuV3r8o1** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:47 pm

I did that a few years ago when I was like 16 or 17 or so.

But the way we did it was we had to take a class every week and learn about sex, STD's, pregnancy, statistics, and what the Bible says about sex. Pretty insightful class.

All of the youth at the church were split by age groups. And I was in the same class as other 16 and 17 yr olds.

The sad/surprising part about the entire thing was that I honestly got he feeling that these other kids were just doing this to meet ppl to hook up with. -_- I'm serious. These ppl flirted the entire time.

I wasn't apart of it, cuz I didn't know most of them. Actually, I was only apart of the program cuz my mom made me do it (she's deeply Christian).

But at my church it was for males and females and we made our vows to God.

I cheated.

Lost my virginity like 6 months later.

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:48 pm

True Christians and Democrats are not the same group of people :wink:

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:48 pm

40~50% of people under 18 will have sex.

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:49 pm

And the same percent applies to people under 18 who've HAD sex. Or some other kind of sexual contact.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:54 pm

i think the % is alot higher than that. I can look around my school and honestly say 20% of the girls are pregnant and i know at leats another good 60% have had sex or oral with someone.....its natural man live and love just use protection

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:54 pm

Woops, yeah thats what i mean, 40~50% of people under 18 has already had some sort of sexual contact

Anh_Hung_Rom · Post by **Anh_Hung_Rom** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:13 pm

@ Zypher. The ceremony is a statement. It means a lot when you go through this instead of an afternoon chit-chat.

@ Draquid. No you can't stop other people but certainly you can control your own life. Pick your friends.

@Xemmas. I didn't think the article was to glamorize the 'conservative Christians'; rather it was about people taking a positive approach towards a social problem that we have, e.g. as you mentioned, teen pregnancy. And I agree that it's not new worthy that people remain virgin until marriage and actually, most of the time people who do this don't go bragging about it either.

To me, it's no news but it's what they do that sort of restores some of the faith we should have in the goodness of teenager spirit. I don't know about you but it seems like everywhere I look there's badness, for lack of a better term. Stuff like sex, drinking, dope, smoking, violence... I mean the other day, I read an article about a 11 year old giving oral sex to numerous of boys. WTF? I get panic when I see stuff like this.

I'm quite liberal. For example, I don't think people should be denied their happiness because they're gay. However, I Farking hate it when the media portrait gays as sex driven creatures, and I hate it worse when people go 'Gay Pride' and portrait themselves as such. /end gay rant

Edit: I want to point out that there's more to worry about sex other than pregnancy, STDs... There's also the psychological affect it leaves behind. I read an article the other day (I read.

) that young girls behavior changed a lot after loosing their virginity. (Does anyone dare to concur this?) Not only that, academically, they perform much poorer. The affect is much more visual on girls than on boys I would presume.

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:19 pm

Quick Fact: Gay people will NOT hit on you if you're not gay.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:19 pm

XemnasXD = QFT

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:21 pm

4 things that popped to mind, going farther and farther from applicable to the story.

1. Creepy.
2. Out of all the freaky sex I've had, the 2nd freakiest was with a Evangelical Christian chick. Oh. My. God. It's so ingrained into them that sex is dirty that they (Self censor here. Whatever you think goes here probably does. If you don't know what should go here, go get laid newbie.)
3. I foresee a huge rise in BJs, cockteases, and anal from this simply because they're still "technically a virgin"
4. But I poop from there!

NOT TODAY YOU DONT!!

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:22 pm

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:23 pm

New sig quote ^_^

Anh_Hung_Rom · Post by **Anh_Hung_Rom** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:32 pm

Devotia wrote:4 things that popped to mind, going farther and farther from applicable to the story.

It's so ingrained into them that sex is dirty that they (Self censor here. Whatever you think goes here probably does. If you don't know what should go here, go get laid newbie.)

Mind if I ask if she thought it was so dirty, why did she do it?

Sex isn't dirty. Sex prolongs our existence. Sex bonds two people together. But it's a sacred thing, to me anyway and I think no girls should give it up until their damn sure, not because of 'he won't like me if I don't do this that'.

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:36 pm

draquish wrote:New sig quote ^_^

You'll have to thank Anne Howe for that one ;p

http://superpoop.ytmnsfw.com/ Not really NSFW but if you work for the pope or DC, put on headphones. (And yes this is probably the tamest one)

AllEyezOnMe · Post by **AllEyezOnMe** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:41 pm

draquish wrote:Sex starts earlier than you think.

These ceremonies do nothing. You cannot stop the world from turning, and spinning you with it, no matter how hard you stand on the ground.

Meh, I think at 14+ it isn't bad to have sex....just don't forget, protection first.

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:42 pm

Anh_Hung_Rom wrote:Mind if I ask if she thought it was so dirty, why did she do it?

Because even 17 years of indoctrination isn't enough to overcome man's basest and most awesome desire.

And I totally agree with the rest of that. Certain religions regard sex as the closest man can get to God. And as anyone who's had sex can tell you, it's pretty damn close

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:56 pm

I suggest you stop with the quotes or my sig will reach the lenght of over 6ft.

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:00 am

Sex if perfectly ok in the right context go read the Song of Solomon it's an entire book pretty much about sex

But I say don't have sex unless your engaged or married cause otherwise you could get pregnant and the guy could leave you and you'll be stuck with a kid to raise

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:15 am

Tasdik wrote:Sex if perfectly ok in the right context go read the Song of Solomon it's an entire book pretty much about sex

But I say don't have sex unless your engaged or married cause otherwise you could get pregnant and the guy could leave you and you'll be stuck with a kid to raise

If you're THAT worried, tubal ligation is a minor outpatient procedure covered by almost every major insurance company, takes under an hour, and you can be back on your back again in a week.

If you're not, a pill once a day or a shot every three months isn't really too much work.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:43 am

@Anh_Hung_Rom

yeah i get how you viewed that article as a positive light in our dark modern era. But stuff like that is like a distraction towards the real problems. The media's saying hey heres some positive examples of teens abstaining from sex. I dunno about you but thats not inspiring me. What would inspire me is if i saw more government programs aimed at reduceing the spread of AIDS and HIV among certain demographics (#1 leading cause of death among African-American women...thats nto cool

) What wold inspire me is seeing "Christians" act a little christlike for once and try to be more supportive of teen mothers, kids are stupid and make stupid mistakes. I get where your coming from that "badness: is everywhere but covering it up with sprinkles like Balls isn't makeing the badness go away and its not even keeping people informed of just how bad things are

PB_and_J · Post by **PB_and_J** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:50 am

CrimsonNuker wrote:Woops, yeah thats what i mean, 40~50% of people under 14 has already had some sort of sexual contact

Corrected

Jabo · Post by **Jabo** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:53 am

i didnt undesrtand anything... =(

can you tell me shorter what that article sais?

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:53 am

PB_and_J wrote:
CrimsonNuker wrote:Woops, yeah thats what i mean, 40~50% of people under 14 has already had some sort of sexual contact

Corrected

zing!

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:51 am

There's nothing wrong with wanting to save yourself for marriage. Couples that don't sleep together until after they marry have a lower divorce rate. I am not sure if that applied to not with *anyone* until they marry, or just that particular person. But anyway. There's still something a little creepy and in my opinion a little wrong about turning common sense and personal choice into an elaborate indoctrination ritual thing.

The way I see it any parent has the right to keep their kid from having sex, period, at least until the kid is 18 or gets a job and moves out of the house, if that's what the parent decides to do. But you should tell your kid the truth and at some point let them go work it out on their own because sex is a part of life as an adult, not life as a child. It's not the parent's jurisdiction.