Lets Put Our Card On THe Table!

LightningCat · Post by **LightningCat** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:57 pm

Can a blader lvl 80 with an affordable gear (Blade lvl 72+5 lets say 10 crit and 72+5 shield lets say 18 BR) can WIN and KILL a glavier\nuker\hybrid? i mean lets say its a pot war but if the glavie do more dmg then eventually he will win! So i wanna know from someone's own expirience if a blader can WIN in pvp..Cuz if a blader cant win and cant lose so whats the point? and if someone cant win he will lose..what cant he more win or lose? lets end it right now and give good answers!

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:21 pm

Let's not lay or cards on the table but say we did

There's been alot of people asking latly if a lvl 80 blader can kill a lvl 80 glavie scroll down on the topics and find it

LightningCat · Post by **LightningCat** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:36 pm

but 1 thread says this and other say that..i wanna get a final answer from a blader lvl 80 or a glavier lvl 80 who fought one

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:15 pm

Yes he can... How?

KD +Stab + KD +Stab + KD +Stab + KD +Stab + ...

And

A GOOD Crit blade

durant · Post by **durant** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:24 pm

LightningCat wrote:Can a blader lvl 80 with an affordable gear (Blade lvl 72+5 lets say 10 crit and 72+5 shield lets say 18 BR) can WIN and KILL a glavier\nuker\hybrid? i mean lets say its a pot war but if the glavie do more dmg then eventually he will win! So i wanna know from someone's own expirience if a blader can WIN in pvp..Cuz if a blader cant win and cant lose so whats the point? and if someone cant win he will lose..what cant he more win or lose? lets end it right now and give good answers!

Because bladers are tanking machines. A good blader can tank a good amount above their own level (a lot more than other builds can).

Morlaf · Post by **Morlaf** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:04 pm

Bladers will not be able to kill 8/10 non full ints they encounter o_o. (generalization)

LightningCat · Post by **LightningCat** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:19 pm

Morlaf wrote:Bladers will not be able to kill 8/10 non full ints they encounter o_o. (generalization)

and how do u know that? do u posses any proof? i say its immposible for a char to be UNABLE to kill other char..i think u guys r using the words "Cant" and "immposible" too lightly..i say a blader can kill a glavier if he has done things propely (good trees that focus on the main strns of the blader)...at the end of the day the equip is the thing that matters..why dont u say "a glavier cant kill a pure str blader?" its allways "a blader cant kill and canot be killed" i say NO! i say CHANGE! VIVA LA REVOLUSION! bladers are PVP killing machines stop giving so much credit to glaviers..i walk in jangan and in tarim basin and all i can see is glaviers so are u really objective? think about it and come back to me.. thnx..

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:45 pm

LightningCat wrote:
Morlaf wrote:Bladers will not be able to kill 8/10 non full ints they encounter o_o. (generalization)

and how do u know that? do u posses any proof? i say its immposible for a char to be UNABLE to kill other char..i think u guys r using the words "Cant" and "immposible" too lightly..i say a blader can kill a glavier if he has done things propely (good trees that focus on the main strns of the blader)...at the end of the day the equip is the thing that matters..why dont u say "a glavier cant kill a pure str blader?" its allways "a blader cant kill and canot be killed" i say NO! i say CHANGE! VIVA LA REVOLUSION! bladers are PVP killing machines stop giving so much credit to glaviers..i walk in jangan and in tarim basin and all i can see is glaviers so are u really objective? think about it and come back to me.. thnx..

seriously how do you expect a decent answer if you criticize others opinions/facts while they might have more knowledge on the situation

bladers are hard to kill (hard as in extremelly hard because of the hp and br and if fighting back the kd) lots and lots of hp repot and damage free situations
But due to their low damage they have also a hard time killing anything that is not full int.
bladers are pvp monsters but not in the way of killing but in the survivability any build can die really fast but bladers are another level on the dying part.

i am not a glavie/blader just because i cant imagine myself level so slow i already hate leveling as int based build, i sure would love to build a blader one day.

Painbringer · Post by **Painbringer** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 5:48 pm

Bladers will definately not be able to kill a glaiver nor an int hybrid.
Pure int perhaps, if the blader has a good blade and the int has shit gear.

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:13 pm

borat2 wrote:
LightningCat wrote:
Morlaf wrote:Bladers will not be able to kill 8/10 non full ints they encounter o_o. (generalization)

and how do u know that? do u posses any proof? i say its immposible for a char to be UNABLE to kill other char..i think u guys r using the words "Cant" and "immposible" too lightly..i say a blader can kill a glavier if he has done things propely (good trees that focus on the main strns of the blader)...at the end of the day the equip is the thing that matters..why dont u say "a glavier cant kill a pure str blader?" its allways "a blader cant kill and canot be killed" i say NO! i say CHANGE! VIVA LA REVOLUSION! bladers are PVP killing machines stop giving so much credit to glaviers..i walk in jangan and in tarim basin and all i can see is glaviers so are u really objective? think about it and come back to me.. thnx..

seriously how do you expect a decent answer if you criticize others opinions/facts while they might have more knowledge on the situation

bladers are hard to kill (hard as in extremelly hard because of the hp and br and if fighting back the kd) lots and lots of hp repot and damage free situations
But due to their low damage they have also a hard time killing anything that is not full int.
bladers are pvp monsters but not in the way of killing but in the survivability any build can die really fast but bladers are another level on the dying part.

i am not a glavie/blader just because i cant imagine myself level so slow i already hate leveling as int based build, i sure would love to build a blader one day.

+1 bladers can't kill hybrids well at least a blader who was 4 lvls higher couldn't kill me

:.:.: · Post by **:.:.:** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:27 pm

Great_Master wrote:Yes he can... How?

KD +Stab + KD +Stab + KD +Stab + KD +Stab + ...

And

A GOOD Crit blade

no he cant u wrong
at 80 is hard to kd
if u kd u enemy use shield
u damage is weak
so u cant kill anyone at lvl 80

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:16 pm

:.:.: wrote:
Great_Master wrote:Yes he can... How?

KD +Stab + KD +Stab + KD +Stab + KD +Stab + ...

And

A GOOD Crit blade

no he cant u wrong
at 80 is hard to kd
if u kd u enemy use shield
u damage is weak
so u cant kill anyone at lvl 80

There is also zerk xD and Seal of Sun.

Painbringer · Post by **Painbringer** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:46 pm

Pure int zerk > blader zerk

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:05 am

bladers can't kill sword hybrids because of their block and they are most likely also using knockdown and bladers can kill glavies but it will take a year

Razzmatazz · Post by **Razzmatazz** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:06 am

im a newbie i have only been playing for a month, so please correct me if i am wrong.

Glaivers can nullify a blocking rate of a shield right? meaning every attack cannot be blocked, bad news for bladers.

But Bladers can nullify a critical rate of a weapon right? meaning no critical attack will ever be taken, bad news for glaivers.

If this is true then they are equal as you see it, BUT......
a Glaiver cannot nullify critical attacks, because he cannot wear a shield

so i guess a blader has an advantage if they both have godly gear.
At least i think so

:.:.: · Post by **:.:.:** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:38 am

Razzmatazz wrote:im a newbie i have only been playing for a month, so please correct me if i am wrong.

Glaivers can nullify a blocking rate of a shield right? meaning every attack cannot be blocked, bad news for bladers.

But Bladers can nullify a critical rate of a weapon right? meaning no critical attack will ever be taken, bad news for glaivers.

If this is true then they are equal as you see it, BUT......
a Glaiver cannot nullify critical attacks, because he cannot wear a shield

so i guess a blader has an advantage if they both have godly gear.
At least i think so

if the blader kd the glaiver can change to shield
the damage of a blader is a joke in a pure str
while a critical from a glaiver still hurts the blade

bladers are tanks, cannot be killed but cant kill
every blade will come here and say zomg i can kil muhwauhwa
but once u hit lvl 80 u wont kill shit unless u have a sosun
i laught at 72+5 bladers that try to kill me, and i am pure int.

alZen · Post by **alZen** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:32 am

shield buffs make the blader even more difficult to be KO than ever before.

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:15 am

But... a blader can go afk with two people hitting him... thats why they are better(for me) then every other build, plus the hp and str alchemy maxed they can tank up to three people the same lvl >.<

:.:.: · Post by **:.:.:** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:35 pm

Great_Master wrote:But... a blader can go afk with two people hitting him... thats why they are better(for me) then every other build, plus the hp and str alchemy maxed they can tank up to three people the same lvl >.<

and everyone can go afk with blader hitting him
its what i said
blader=tanks
cant be killed
and CANT kill
unless u have sosun

Dean_ · Post by **Dean_** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:01 pm

get a sosun c16 blade then ull probably kill one... LOL

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:05 pm

blade is tanker, not killer. any proof? it's so obvious that u can't miss it. just look at the damage of the blade skills -.-. what other proof u need?

ps: if a blade has the same or only slight less killing ability like a glaive or any other build, why should one go for other builds -.-

Razzmatazz · Post by **Razzmatazz** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:46 pm

i guess a great tanker with a SOSun blade would be godlike

Stephanus · Post by **Stephanus** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:10 am

ANY build with sosun equipment would be DOGLIKE... ^^
Buuttt.... heavy int hybrid pwns all!

:twisted:

(with full sosun equipment) **cough**

EDIT: err.. Godlike, i mean.

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