My Bow build (lvl 64) and story (I own ^^)

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:19 am

I gotta disagree, Bow might suck against full str blade/glaviers (in pvp). But it 'pwns' in PvE AND in PVP against FULL INT sword/spear/bower.

And it rocks in jobs. (And i think the bows look the coolest just an opinion guys)

O and btw, a bow with full +str 100% and hp +100% on all pwns

. He might get ALL the dmg, but he has enough

.

just a few crits and you're out of hp ^^

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:16 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

cin · Post by **cin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:55 am

nice little guide

i might try a archer too when i saved some money with my ss int

but why are the topic replies always the same when somebody is havin fun with his build lol

-build 1 sais his build can kill monsters easily

-build 2 sais build 1 sucks

-then build 3 comes to say they own and build 1 and 2 both suck

-and build 3 got ownd by build 1 earlier that week

there is no use in constantly commenting about builds being useless or not capable of killing in the higher levels lmao
everybody sais their build owns on level 80 so lets just comment and show interests in the guides ppl post cause thats what the guides are for right?

and now not all start saying im stupid cause critisizing is part of the forum :roll:

MastaChiefX · Post by **MastaChiefX** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:24 am

I've never lost to a bow my lvl.

Fracture · Post by **Fracture** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:45 am

TwelveEleven wrote:I gotta disagree, Bow might suck against full str blade/glaviers (in pvp). But it 'pwns' in PvE AND in PVP against FULL INT sword/spear/bower.

And it rocks in jobs. (And i think the bows look the coolest just an opinion guys)

O and btw, a bow with full +str 100% and hp +100% on all pwns . He might get ALL the dmg, but he has enough .

just a few crits and you're out of hp ^^

The only problem is that bow isn't a STR weapon, and relies solely on crits and stacked damage. By level 64, bows lose alot of their edge on other weapons because of their middle power, and quite frankly, only hybrid bowyers remain any good.

The only problem from said notion is that it takes a good player to make a good bowyer, because 4 out of 5 times, a full INT s/s or spear, or a full STR glaive or b/s will still lay down a bowyer without much trouble.

StealMySoda · Post by **StealMySoda** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:17 am

Can't read it. Its too clumped together :oops:

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:06 pm

liquidsmooth wrote:Well I thought i'd make a quick contribution to the silkroad community. I've been reading alot about the different types of builds out there and I wanted to share my successful build with you guys. When I first started silkroad I was at my buddys house and we had just downloaded the game. Coming from playing the mmorpg game Dark ages which is a little similar but way more oldschool, I was curious abuot the 3d huge world of silkroad. So I decided at the time that an archer sounded fun.

I started slowly leveling learning the game and all the different features. We found at insight 3 that you could level your hp and mp based on stat points and str/ability. I started adding int and str keeping them even until I could figure out more about the game. Until about level 28ish I was half int half str naked. Then I started reading about the different builds and talking to players in the game. Some people said that I had already screwed up my character by not going full str is what most everybody had to say. So from that point on up until about level 48 I was going all str. I then learned about farming your skills sometime in between and also ran across a build guide on here that was 70:70 kinda hybrid bow. So I reached level 52 and farmed, and farmed, then farmed some more. I then got every skill maxed in pacheon, fire, cold and lighting up to level 52 mastery and had gone with garment the entire time.

I decided it was do or die time and to go out and test out my character, to see if it was really as aweful as everybody says it was going to turn out. So I dueled some nukers, some glave, and nuker sword/sheild. What happened you could possibly be asking yourself? I killed every single one of them. I was kind of shocked at how well I was doing. So I decided to start moving up and challenging people levels 53-54-55-56 and nobody could touch me. It wasn't until level 57 that I met my match, it was a full int nuker that was killing me on the 3rd hit every try. So I decided things must be working out and to keep going.

I am now level 64 and am farming 135k sp so I can finish the farming for the entire game (0gap to 80). It will give me enough sp to max everything but the lighting imbue (which is the only imbue I never got). I did however go with fire and cold imbue. And I use fire in pvp or if it's a character with a way higher lvl I use cold to slow down there hard hitting attacks as well as general hunting. I am farming with a 9 level gap and I can still kill around half the people I duel around my level (with a 9 gap)!

Okay so here is rougly what my stats are and what my gear is: I am level 64 with 270 str and 179 int. I have a phy. attack of 1525~1833 and a Mag. Attack 1391~1668 with a phy def. of 552 and Mag def of 1002. My phy balance is 96% and magic balance is 64% with a hit ratio fo 318 and parry ratio of 299. I have gear with alot of str and int on it, the minimum on each piece is a minimum of 4 for either attribute. Naked I believe it was 86% phy and 47% magic. I figure this is one of the best ways because my crit will still hit around 100% but I still have the ability to nuke too which means not only do my crits still hit hard and I still have alot of hp (10k/6.2k) there is still alot of magic damage attached to each of the arrows. When I nuke shit it's not like a nuker dmg but I do abuot 3800-4200 to monsters my level with Tigers thunderbolt.

So that's about my story if you have any comments/questions go ahead and leave them in the window and i'll get back with you. If you want to test your character compared to mine, go to the mongouy (or whatever those lvl 1 things are outside of jangan south gate) and hit a crit on them. At lvl 64 with a 9 level gap my highest crit so far was 36,892 with strongbow vision. My crit btw is with NO bizurker! And my average attack to them non crit is between 18k-20k. I play on alps server and my name is LiquidSmooth, if your on there i'll cya around ^^! Take care and if you made it this far congradulations ^^

:.:.: · Post by **:.:.:** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:34 pm

TwelveEleven wrote:I gotta disagree, Bow might suck against full str blade/glaviers (in pvp). But it 'pwns' in PvE AND in PVP against FULL INT sword/spear/bower.

And it rocks in jobs. (And i think the bows look the coolest just an opinion guys)

O and btw, a bow with full +str 100% and hp +100% on all pwns . He might get ALL the dmg, but he has enough .

just a few crits and you're out of hp ^^

u wrong
at 80 even a +7 glaiver is a pot war against me in protector
if i am in armor i can go afk
only if they crit in both sss and i dont block or ironwall the mars
for a pure int the easy str to kill is a bower, there is nothing u can do to stop me from nuking u, when bladers kd and glaivers stun/knockback
bowers just take every single hit, thats why they suck at pvp

Maxen · Post by **Maxen** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:04 pm

Fracture wrote:
TwelveEleven wrote:I gotta disagree, Bow might suck against full str blade/glaviers (in pvp). But it 'pwns' in PvE AND in PVP against FULL INT sword/spear/bower.

And it rocks in jobs. (And i think the bows look the coolest just an opinion guys)

O and btw, a bow with full +str 100% and hp +100% on all pwns . He might get ALL the dmg, but he has enough .

just a few crits and you're out of hp ^^

The only problem is that bow isn't a STR weapon, and relies solely on crits and stacked damage. By level 64, bows lose alot of their edge on other weapons because of their middle power, and quite frankly, only hybrid bowyers remain any good.

The only problem from said notion is that it takes a good player to make a good bowyer, because 4 out of 5 times, a full INT s/s or spear, or a full STR glaive or b/s will still lay down a bowyer without much trouble.

did you mean to type is ?
because no end of other people have been stating bow is an str based weapon in other threads

oh and anyone else having strong bow spirit randomly cancel itself in game? cause it keeps happening to me

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:08 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

yamataka · Post by **yamataka** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:21 pm

liquidsmooth wrote:It is a str based weapon, hence the crits are based off str and without crits a bower doesn't have a chance.

Int builds have crits when using a bow just as like str builds can do nukes ... something to think about ..

Anyways, thanks for the insights on your experiance with a bow build. I found it very helpful.

Sirshadowcat · Post by **Sirshadowcat** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:41 pm

Hybrid str bow rocks. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Yes you need to invest in a good sos + weapon but once you do FTW...

Highest crit I pulled off on a mangyang was 65k zerked at lvl 67 with 90% phy/80mag (almost 50 int str on garm) with a 7 lvl gap for farming.

Another little tip.. Get lots of pain kilers for the hand cramping farming it

pilipinas24 · Post by **pilipinas24** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:43 pm

hmmm... so we should propose to joymax a skill for bowers that will let them attack while running away. that would be cool.

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:55 pm

pilipinas24 wrote:hmmm... so we should propose to joymax a skill for bowers that will let them attack while running away. that would be cool.

What I would love for the bow is a knockback just like the glaive has. That would be suheeet!

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:09 pm

Alfred wrote:
pilipinas24 wrote:hmmm... so we should propose to joymax a skill for bowers that will let them attack while running away. that would be cool.
What I would love for the bow is a knockback just like the glaive has. That would be suheeet!

Yea, thats what is needed for bow. Joymax can make a good crossbow build but not a good bow build. The Europe crossbow build does more damage than a pure int sword, has a higher base critical(4 is 0% I believe.), can knock back, and knock down.

The Chinese bow needs something.

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:34 pm

It needs... more... power.

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:24 am

I'm sorry, but in my opinion before the castle war update comes Chinese bowers will excel at unique-killing, but that would probably be the only thing they are truly better than every other class at. They are OK at a lot of other things though, and probably fastest trainer among the str classes.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:20 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

cin · Post by **cin** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:27 am

Da_Realest wrote:
Alfred wrote:
pilipinas24 wrote:hmmm... so we should propose to joymax a skill for bowers that will let them attack while running away. that would be cool.
What I would love for the bow is a knockback just like the glaive has. That would be suheeet!
Yea, thats what is needed for bow. Joymax can make a good crossbow build but not a good bow build. The Europe crossbow build does more damage than a pure int sword, has a higher base critical(4 is 0% I believe.), can knock back, and knock down.

The Chinese bow needs something.

in most other games i played the bowers had skills to hit multiple targets.. superfast leveling and farming.. wud be nice aswell

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:40 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:52 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:56 pm

liquidsmooth wrote:Can you're build 1 hit a monster 2 levels below you with a 9 level gap and not even using your strongest skill? This is just using my anti-devil bow not my strongbow =)

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8867 ... 599dc2.jpg

Yup. My hybrid bow could 1 hit mobs 2 lvls below me with 98% phy and 38% mag, a +3 bow, and 9 lvl gap.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:25 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:30 pm

liquidsmooth wrote:I could do it to my level but i'm hunting these for farming, not sure about giong over 64 though. That's really nice damage your doing! Got any SS?

I'm looking for possiblity's for tweaking, just want to see what's out there!

Sorry, I didn't bother to take any ss when I was farming a small amount of sp. Without alchemy my phy balance is 94%.

Chikoritapro · Post by **Chikoritapro** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:43 pm

erm to give u some insights.
a 73 spear nuker can 1 nuke + 1 shout a lvl 78 shaman

and i dont even need to mention how long it took u to pull that bow string

but if you like your build, go ahead and play it.

To be honest, i love bow and i want to play bow

But i dont think bows are strong enough YET.

back in 70 cap, 2 fully farmed Bowers can't take down BrowNTyGeR (full str glavie) and Brown didn't even have a single piece sos.

No the bowers dont suk. They were one of the best bowers on Xian (i wont mention names, this information was told to me by one of the bowers themselvs)

The glavie was fully farmed using +7 spear (critical 14) along time ago this was..

the bowers where using +5 bows.

Something u should consider, on how much these glaviers can crit u.

Though, this isnt normal since BrowNTyGeR is the strongest player on Xian.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:49 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:11 pm

Liquidsmooth you should also know that even though cave mobs have more HP than mobs around that level, they do not give more exp.

@ Chikoritapro: Shaman are int mobs. They're defense isn't very high.

Because of my range I can kill faster than a spear nuker if we're hunting the same mobs. They may be able to 1 shot that mob but by the time they get in range to shoot a nuke I'm already finishing off the mob with a arrow combo or if I get a critical the mob is dead in one hit.

Archers are at a disadvantage but they don't suck. We've just yet to see any good archers.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:22 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Chikoritapro · Post by **Chikoritapro** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:29 pm

erm ok. well that 73 nuker was me just so u know. i had 72+5 spear and 69 masteries. yes u had 9 lvls lower =/

anyways Nice dmg and i am glad ur enjoying ur bow char. Still shout (= lion shout basically does 2k dmg~ a finishing skill for nukers)

bow chars do hit alot when their devil arrow criticals. but its rare to critical a devil arrow (1/10 tries assuming u have critical 10 bow)

If u want to compare dmg wise, i 1 shot snipers (74) and 73 (niya guards if i get lucky >.< need my max dmg for this

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:49 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

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