LVL 80 BLADER VS LVL 80 GLAIVER

MURDERER · Post by **MURDERER** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:14 pm

LVL 80-90 BLADER VS LVL 80-90 GLAIVER, WHO WILL WIN? THEY BOTH ARE AT THE SAME LVL AND HAVE THE SAME EVERYTHING BESIDES THE WEAPON.

1ST: PVP WITHOUT POTS
2ND : PVP WITH POTS

EXPLAIN PROFESSIONALLY AT YOUR OPINION.

DarkLaw · Post by **DarkLaw** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:26 pm

1st: wtf. who pvps without pots?

but anyways it all depends on the BR of the bladers shield. blades crit. glaives crit. and thier luck with crits stuns and KD. Its a pot war tbh.

MURDERER · Post by **MURDERER** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:32 pm

DarkLaw wrote:1st: wtf. who pvps without pots?

but anyways it all depends on the BR of the bladers shield. blades crit. glaives crit. and thier luck with crits stuns and KD. Its a pot war tbh.

MANY PLAYERS PVP WITHOUT POTS TO DETERMINE WHOS THE WINNER THROUGH INVESTING EXPERIMENTS AND THE SAME TO PVP WITH POTS.

IM KIND OF WONDERING THAT THE GLAIVER HAS NO DEFENSE AND TAKING DAMAGES CONSTANTLY, IT MAYBE THE FIRST ONE TO RUN OUT OF POTS FIGHTING A BLADER :?:

LuCiDiTy · Post by **LuCiDiTy** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:59 pm

pvping without pots is not a good way. Simple, the one who hits first wins.

Krevidy · Post by **Krevidy** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:20 pm

yea let me think ,, this is a hard one.
1st. Full STR blader/glaviers are evenly matched.
its all about the Crit and the BR at the bladers point of view.
so the chance will be 50%-50% for both of them.
i am self a blader and i'm taking pretty damage from them.
iff my HP goes lower then 3000 then i will start to do KD and stab, to give myself some time to pot. *Gush i'm making a long story outta this*
2. Yes, it will become a pot fight then. no one of them will win. :wink:

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:20 pm

MURDERER wrote:
DarkLaw wrote:1st: wtf. who pvps without pots?

but anyways it all depends on the BR of the bladers shield. blades crit. glaives crit. and thier luck with crits stuns and KD. Its a pot war tbh.

MANY PLAYERS PVP WITHOUT POTS TO DETERMINE WHOS THE WINNER THROUGH INVESTING EXPERIMENTS AND THE SAME TO PVP WITH POTS.

IM KIND OF WONDERING THAT THE GLAIVER HAS NO DEFENSE AND TAKING DAMAGES CONSTANTLY, IT MAYBE THE FIRST ONE TO RUN OUT OF POTS FIGHTING A BLADER

Bowman pawns (firewall + far range)

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:07 pm

This is my *cough* professional *cough* opinion

"Blader would win of course whta a question, he looks much cooler then the glaiver!!!"

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:50 am

Bowman pawns (firewall + far range)

You can't move. For bow mobility is necassary as you have no skills which can stop your enemy. And congrats, you just took out 4k of the glaiver's 21k of HP >>.

Seriously I would think that with equal weapons and armor, one of them would have to get really really lucky but mostly it'll be a pot fight.

MANY PLAYERS PVP WITHOUT POTS TO DETERMINE WHOS THE WINNER THROUGH INVESTING EXPERIMENTS AND THE SAME TO PVP WITH POTS.

IM KIND OF WONDERING THAT THE GLAIVER HAS NO DEFENSE AND TAKING DAMAGES CONSTANTLY, IT MAYBE THE FIRST ONE TO RUN OUT OF POTS FIGHTING A BLADER

Only people below level 10 pvp without pots. To fight without pots is completely pointless. And wth is an "investing experiment"? The glaiver may not have a shield, but he has more hp and also hits harder. Im sorry to be critical but do you have to capitilize and bold every single thing you say? It makes you look really really obnoxious.

MastaChiefX · Post by **MastaChiefX** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:27 am

Blade with pots.

He runs out of pots later than glavie :O.

aSSaSSin · Post by **aSSaSSin** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:37 am

i`m Glavier 7x , and never owned by a blader , NEVER , he may Kd and stab me , the battle may take forever , but i have higher chance to own him , the glavier have high damage hits , can stunn , can KB , the glavier have higher chance to win blader with no pots , if the glavier have Block Ratio 100 % , and good crit , thats for sure ^^

:.:.: · Post by **:.:.:** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:55 am

i can go afk with a blader hitting my pure int lvl 80 in armor

Post by **Stress** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:32 am

As most STR vs STR battles are, it is a pot and crit battle. It's very boring due to the following:
Blade spams KD bk2 + KD bk3 until KD, then does stab bk3 + stab bk2. This repeats over and over again.
The glaiver will spam the SSS + SST + GSM buttons until crit.

It's one of the most boring fights possible.

bossgasefox · Post by **bossgasefox** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:19 am

all depends on luck because the blader may get ablock then crit this make the galvier dead

but however if aglavier made 1crit with no block of the blader the blader would be lost(without pots)

with pots blader wins(less pot use)

but aglavier can get through the pots with some crits

it will take forever

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:53 pm

this is just a stupid question. everything equal means, shield with crit 100 for blade and glaive with block 100 for glaive. blade has kd, stab and glaive has stun. the amount of potions will determine about result of the fight respectively, how u set ur autopot (eg. hp 50% u sure run out of potions slower than with hp at 90%).

pvp without pots is just stupid. no comments needed.

MURDERER · Post by **MURDERER** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:50 pm

Great_Master wrote:This is my *cough* professional *cough* opinion

"Blader would win of course whta a question, he looks much cooler then the glaiver!!!"

LOL..ALSO HE WOULD LOOK COOL WHEN HE DIES FROM A GLAIVER

[SD]Frites · Post by **[SD]Frites** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:45 pm

It will be a potfight definitly.

I'm a blader because blades look so cool, and the Heaven and Ascension chain are cool too

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:51 pm

in no pot fight, blader will win because of skill + 500 phy def and +32% block rate

non ego man · Post by **non ego man** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:11 pm

:.:.: wrote:i can go afk with a blader hitting my pure int lvl 80 in armor

i can go afk with :.:.:'s pure int lvl 80 nuking my blader in garms

Painbringer · Post by **Painbringer** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:17 pm

non ego man wrote:
:.:.: wrote:i can go afk with a blader hitting my pure int lvl 80 in armor

i can go afk with :.:.:'s pure int lvl 80 nuking my blader in garms

Glaivers can do the same.

firefirefire1989 · Post by **firefirefire1989** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:12 am

its so unfair for bladers because they have to farm so much more sps and lvl so much slowers than glaivers and they r only a tie
but bladers r cooler,

HBblade · Post by **HBblade** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:56 am

joymax should make it so when you kd some1 they can't switch to shield, just like a stun, but then glaviers would start losing more as it is in pvp against kd/stab

w/ kd u do as much dmg as a glave, then while they're down, you see that it's pointless to even stab them, when they whip out the shield

FiReDRaGoN · Post by **FiReDRaGoN** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:39 am

obviously no one here is 80
bladers are dead at 80 everyone is switching to glavie
use shield with kd? maybe at 70 cap at 80 dont need too

ooh yeah and goodluck grinding a blader to 80 if you can make it

Xecut10ner · Post by **Xecut10ner** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:45 pm

oooooo i remember when there was no Auto Potions thing, People pvp without pots, i remember calling my enemy's "noob potter", lol, Well, I think blader win, Br + Kd + stab, best thing

Erikutisnx · Post by **Erikutisnx** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:13 pm

Great_Master wrote:This is my *cough* professional *cough* opinion

"Blader would win of course whta a question, he looks much cooler then the glaiver!!!"

;DD

matronyx · Post by **matronyx** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:12 pm

Both Blader and Glaiver at lvl 80 fully farmed with both in armor+5 str5 int5 hp400 mp400 using stack of 50 X-Large pots:
Blader wins. Glaiver spends more time on his back than blader being stunned.

PureOwnage · Post by **PureOwnage** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:38 pm

lol wow none of you have seen a full str glaive with good eq (doesnt matter if blader has same eq) pvp @ the 80 cap. Glaives damage is so insane blader dies. I have seen a better equiped bladder fully farmed be pwned by a glaiver @ the cap. Why? because the glaive damage output is a hell of a lot higher than a blade + glaive crits like hell. My lvl 64 glaiver with crit 12(+85%) crits out the ass.

matronyx · Post by **matronyx** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:55 pm

PureOwnage wrote:lol wow none of you have seen a full str glaive with good eq (doesnt matter if blader has same eq) pvp @ the 80 cap. Glaives damage is so insane blader dies. I have seen a better equiped bladder fully farmed be pwned by a glaiver @ the cap. Why? because the glaive damage output is a hell of a lot higher than a blade + glaive crits like hell. My lvl 64 glaiver with crit 12(+85%) crits out the ass.

What are you talking about? What server are you on? I see them everyday here on Aege ... lvl 80s fully farmed pimped gears +7 weapons.
We arent disputing who has the highest damage. We are saying who would last longer given the settings I specified in my previous post.

MURDERER · Post by **MURDERER** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:04 pm

matronyx wrote:Both Blader and Glaiver at lvl 80 fully farmed with both in armor+5 str5 int5 hp400 mp400 using stack of 50 X-Large pots:
Blader wins. Glaiver spends more time on his back than blader being stunned.

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MastaChiefX · Post by **MastaChiefX** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:50 pm

PureOwnage wrote:lol wow none of you have seen a full str glaive with good eq (doesnt matter if blader has same eq) pvp @ the 80 cap. Glaives damage is so insane blader dies. I have seen a better equiped bladder fully farmed be pwned by a glaiver @ the cap. Why? because the glaive damage output is a hell of a lot higher than a blade + glaive crits like hell. My lvl 64 glaiver with crit 12(+85%) crits out the ass.

Highly doubt a blader with better gear gets owned by you.

Actually, I highly doubt you can even kill a blader your lvl with better/equal gear.

Morlaf · Post by **Morlaf** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:44 pm

PureOwnage wrote:lol wow none of you have seen a full str glaive with good eq (doesnt matter if blader has same eq) pvp @ the 80 cap. Glaives damage is so insane blader dies. I have seen a better equiped bladder fully farmed be pwned by a glaiver @ the cap. Why? because the glaive damage output is a hell of a lot higher than a blade + glaive crits like hell. My lvl 64 glaiver with crit 12(+85%) crits out the ass.

what?! In a potted battle, neither one will win at the 80 cap. Both of them have 72 weps which aren't strong enough to really kill lvl 80s. Bladers should never die to other full strs, but then again, I can't see a blader ever killing another str-dominant person who isn't bow.