why int is soo bad?

[thengel]

i never liked warrior/rogues chars..i always loved magics guys...


why in this game the int is soo weak?i always hear that STR is the best best,but this is desbalanced,they should be both good in the hands of a good player...i dont get it ,i will not make a STR Build,i dont like warrior,maybe i will be weak but Mage's 4 ever...

[Demarthl]

i beleive, the words spoken of the loud, and unfortunately, the majority, are ignorant, illogical and without evidence.

A while back, when i was a lil ol' level 28 i had my hunter kit on, running around scaring kids and stuff, teleport over to donwhang east ferry.

oh crap!

there stands a pure str glaive fire monkey user dude in a spank 1 mil theif suit...

CHHAAAAAARGE!

(thats him)

so i think "....... Booya!" and smash him in the face with my spear.

He had to start potting before me and i woulda kicked his ass if his friends didnt turn up, before they could kill me i ported back and took off my suit xD.

so anyways, in the long run, STR users aren't better then INT.

it's down to the skill choice, the players skill, and a lot of luck ..... + potions ^^

[Gavin]

People who go for pure builds are stupid in my opinion.

[Demarthl]

says you.

im not ap ure int, a hybrid touchy balance, but i put all my points into int now anyway

[thengel]

you guys any tip for me?i have a blade and a shield...i have 2 skills of blade and im going in INT Eletric/blade ...im in te right way?
sorry for noobish

[ASNZern]

It's up to you.....
If you want to use weapon skills, go for STR.
If you want to use Element Skills, go for INT.

The popular stat is :2STR 1INT or :1STR 2INT.



Make a wise decision. Create a greate character. Then shake Silkroad 's land.

[thengel]

2 int 1 str is a good choice to elemnt dude ?

[ASNZern]

Unless you want to go Pure Int


Anyway, my stat is >>7 Int : 2 Str<<

[CxT]

you guys any tip for me?i have a blade and a shield...i have 2 skills of blade and im going in INT Eletric/blade ...im in te right way?
sorry for noobish

just as a note, SWORDS are for int based, blades deal more physical damage.

[thengel]

i know but my blade dos more damage than any sword i could have o.o

[strike_freedom]

What's your problem? Hybrids are the most worthless in the game! My guild leader is a hybrid and he hits like 100 damage on demon horses WITH magic and he's lvl 26!!! I'm pure strength lvl 21 and I can hit more than him! Hybrids are the weakest! They don't have the HP and defence of pure strength, and their magic isn't as strong as pure Int! If you still insist that hybrids are the best, then go , even though it's still alright to add a few stats into strength/int once in the game. When a pure strength adds int, it's a waste of stat points! By the time they actually get it to the same, their HP could have been a lot higher! If you can help it, try to add all strength/int!

[Jia]

first of all, ur a little rude strike. secondly, hybrid builds are not worthless, though they tend to suck at the lower lvls, all you need to do is place lots of sp in both str and int skills and you'll be fine, or so i hear. as for str vs. int, in the long run, pure int builds just dont have enough hp to survive at the higher lvls, though they are rly good in the lower lvls. So, i think 2:1 int build is pretty good.

[thengel]

im a bit confused...

i will doo pure int but i will add some str som etimes

[Naloch]

Not matter what you do you basically have to make it work. I've gone pute INT and it works great untill I get mobbed, run out of pots or out of sp.So basically if you go pure INT your going to be spending lots of you $ on sp/hp pots or you won't survie long ^^

[thengel]

i dont this..im using force powers to heal too...im killing monster,shild and sword its not good?its better get an spear for int?

[Moogie]

Sword is a 'magic' weapon just like the spear is, so you should be fine using it with an Int character.

No character build sucks throughout. Hybrids will have problems early on, but at high levels they'll have the best of both worlds. The only problem there is, you've pretty much seen most of the game by the time the long struggle ends and you begin to reap the rewards of your build.

Pure Int characters have it easy as long as they spend huge amounts of cash on pots. They're not good in PvP, but for me that's no problem. For PvE, magic makes it a piece of cake. Though I have low defense, being able to kill anything my level in 2-3 hits means I don't often get into dire situations.

Pure Str characters do well in high levels and with PvP, but obviously their magic skills are aweful. On the plus side, they have a lot more SP to spend in general when compared to Int/magic users.


Everyone has to find their own style. Everyone has to pick the build that suits them, and suffer with whatever downsides it has. But remember this. It's the journey that matters when playing a MMORPG, not the destination. As long as you have fun playing, it doesn't matter how your character will turn out in the end. There's no wrong answers, no right or wrong- just differences of opinion.

[thengel]

thjnkyou!

[strike_freedom]

lol true i was rude but eventually hybrids are still worthless. Not like completely worthless, but still they can't kill strengths or intelligence pures. They won't have the HP of strength pures, and they don't have the attack of intelligence pures. Say if you are lvl 5 and you add both strength and int, then you will have 30 strength and 30 int. If you add all strength, by that time you will have 36 strength and 24 int. You won't have the HP if you're hybrid, and your int will still be weak, far less than pure intelligence, and by the time you got your int to the same as strength, your physical damage would have been much higher. You don't add much damage when you increase your skill because your int is low, and you only make it increase a little damage, when if you had been adding strength, your physical damage would have been much higher. In the end, hybrids will only hit a little more than strength, and their HP would be so much lower than pure strength. Because they don't have alot of HP, intelligence pures would be able to kill hybrids before being killed. Would you have weak strength and weak int or would you have very high strength or int?[/quote]

[Ziggy]

there is a lvl 10 mastery that adds 100 or so hp and a similar one opposite to it doing the same thing with mp. Learning one of them should save a few character points.

[strike_freedom]

yeah but if you still added strength then wouldn't you get EVEN MORE HP? Pure strength might be able to beat pure int, but pure int can train faster cos they hit more, provided they know how to watch their health closely and don't die. Seriously, you're better off not adding any intelligence if you're a pure strength, or not adding any strength if you're a pure intelligence. And, yes, I am aware of those lvl 10 passive skills.

[Demarthl]

thats am atter of opinion. stop pushing your opinion on other people.

besides, you have no proof hybrids are worse off.

[Moogie]

Hybrids would do less damage than a pure Int, but survive longer in comparison. Thus they'd level pretty much just as quickly as any pure Int would, needing to heal less often, and be at less risk of dying accidentally.

Like I said, no build sucks any more than any other build. It's all a matter of where your priorities are with your character, and what style you prefer to use.

[strike_freedom]

well i've done my part in trying to tell you the truth and if you still don't believe me, that's your problem. Hybrids which are completely hybrids and have int and strength about the same simply don't have the defense or hp of a strength.

They'll lose in PvP because:
1)They lack the defense and hp of strength, so strength can hit them more than they can hit strength, and even if they're a few lvls higher, strengths still have more HP, so they'll kill hybrids anyway.

2)Intelligence pures will kill them before their killed because since hybrids lack the full defense of strength, they simply get too much damage and they just die even though they have more hp than int

If you REALLY don't believe me, that's your loss. And I can't prove it because I can't show you, but I did give an example, in which my guild leader is a hybrid and I hit more than him even though he was lvl 26 and I was lvl 21. If you're someone who's very good at watching out for your hp and performs well in keeping calm under tense situations, go for int. just don't challenge monster so much higher than your own

[Ziggy]

2)Intelligence pures will kill them before their killed because since hybrids lack the full defense of strength, they simply get too much damage and they just die even though they have more hp than int

They lack the full defence but dont they have more defence than a pure int? And it would also depend on if the hybird had chsoen to be using weapon or magical attacks...

On any given sunday anyone can win.

[strike_freedom]

slightly true, but hybrids have both weak physical damage AND magical damage. I've been trying to tell this for so long, and yet none of you get it? I AM bad at explaining things though...

Another thing is that even though they have more defence than full int, full ints can still hit TWICE as much as full strengths, and full strengths already hit quite alot. The purpose of full int is to kill alot, that's why hybrids are not meant to be a match for full ints.

If you say that full ints will lose to hybrids because their defence is lower, think again! Full ints can hit alot, and can almost kill full strengths. Since full strengths have so much HP and defence, and yet they can almost die, then why is it that full ints can't kill hybrids when hybrids don't have the HP or defence of full strength?

I can't stress enough that hybrids JUST DON'T HAVE LOTS OF HP OR MP! they have about half of each, which is not a good thing. Strength pures can take lots of damage before dying, which is the reason they can kill full ints. Full ints in guild wars are the top killers if the strengths take all the damage and the ints do all the ice damage and frost the opponents and kill them.

Hybrids just have weak physical damage and weak magical damage. They hit only a little, little, bit more than strength pures, but have SO MUCH LESS HP AND DEFENCE! Due to their low HP and defence, ints take a little more damage but hit alot more.

[icywolfy]

the game still need abit balancing ... i see a warrior or mage class here...and the hybrid class stuck in between.

some skill render useless becoz of dodge and parry rate not fully implemented. Arent there supposed to be dodgy characters like rogue to allow more challenge/survival in pvp.

well have to wait and see.

[Moogie]

well i've done my part in trying to tell you the truth and if you still don't believe me, that's your problem.

I'm not trying to change your opinion. I'm just saying that PvP isn't the only way to judge whether a build 'sucks' or not.

A 50/50 hybrid will take longer to kill monsters than a pure Int, but survive longer anyway. A 50/50 hybrid will do more magical damage than a Str character and kill monsters quicker, but have more difficulty surviving prolonged attacks. But in PvP? Yes, hybrids are not suited for PvP because both of the major flaws of this build come into play at the same time.

But in terms of leveling and PvE, in my opinion, it all averages out. Truth is relative, friend.

[strike_freedom]

Well yes that's true, hybrids are like that, but if you even them out too much, then it's not good. I guess it's not so bad if you even it out just a little bit. But hybrids just don't do well in PvP, and that's the main thing when your lvl is really high. So the choice is yours, be a hybrid and enjoy the game now, or be a pure and have lots of fun killing everyone.

[Demarthl]

stop telling people how to play the game, you're starting to get past my 'annoyed' stage >.>

[Ziggy]

people need to stop thinking of things as warrior or mage.

its not like a fantasy game where a wizard summons heaps of spells and such. its just charging a weapon to do damage or using the weapon to hit really hard.