Chain Sword Attack Series

1c3m4n · Post by **1c3m4n** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:20 pm

Im in the process of making a dual (bicheon/heuskal) int hybrid. I just want to know if I should add the chain sword atk series to my build? and is lion shout any good?

Tasdik · Post by **Tasdik** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:23 pm

Lion shouts pretty good for pure int not so sure about hybrid
Now the chains are what i use to kill monsters i'm hybrid int s/s
but since your doing two wep trees i wouldn't waste the sp on it but u can if you want

Post by **Stress** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:27 pm

I suggest not leveling chain sword. I had it with my own dual weap, but deleveled it because it was useless ->> for grinding you use nukes and for PVP KD, spear moves and nukes. If you really like it, go ahead, but it costs TONS of SP.

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:45 pm

It depends on how hybrid you're going to be. At my balance, chain sword outdamages nukes depending on crits, so I keep it for giants and champions. (Fire nuke, light nuke, chain combo, repeat) However, it might not for you.

Also, I've found that sword throws are better than shout for a hybrid. By the time you get to the last book for each, devil cut far outdamages shout, with a chance for a crit or two, and petal sword can hit up to 3 enemies in a 30m circle. Not to mention there's less MP cost so you can stay out considerably longer.

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:47 pm

mind to share ur balance naked...since i am 1:2 sword...in the process to 1:3 so i can nuke better since i use sword...

Monkey_guy · Post by **Monkey_guy** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:47 pm

I did a quick search in the forum about chains; what's with the general dislike for chains? It looks cool, does good damage, and doesn't cost a lot of sp to obtain that skill. At lvl29, you could get both the 4 hit and 5 hit chain (billow & blood) at the same time. Only 135 sp each. You also don't have to lvl up the chains to get the higher lvl chains at the 4th and 5th books (accension & heaven). This is good for pure int 'cause lvl-ing up weapon skills doesn't help much with damage anyways. For pvp, Nukes are hi damage, but imagined getting blocked by some dude with a hi br shield; you don't want to be an one trick only nuker; same issue with KD. If you get blocked, what are you going to do next? The 4 and 5 hit chains will for sure get you some damage while your nukes cool off. Of course, at much higher lvl this wouldn't be an issue since you have a few nukes at your disposal as well as additional KDs move.

As for lion shout vs. the blade force move, it's all about cost/benefit, the blade force is a mp bargin at 30 somethin' mp, not to mention the shout damages less; again, like someone else said, keep it at the 1st lvl, since pure int is all about the imbue power.

zephyr · Post by **zephyr** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:32 pm

I'm assuming you're pure int. A lion shout will do the same damage as blade force more or less, and lion shout is faster. Even if you're a hybrid, lion shout(s)/blade force should be used as a finishing move...so a faster attack will give you a higher chance of not taking more damage if you know what i mean.

Chains are pretty, but not necessary for a pure int. For grinding, use flame-wave burning followed by ghost spear or lion shout. For pvp, use your knockdowns, stuns, knockbacks, stabs...etc...

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:46 am

Depending on how hybrid you are, blade force will sometimes do more than lion shout.

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:13 am

Monkey: You can't plan a character to lvl 30 unless you're making a goldbot ;p

Chains are generally looked down upon because while they do a ton of damage, that damage is spread out pretty evenly over 5-6 seconds, plus cooldown/warmup. Assuming you can chain for the dmg of a nuke (not out of the question) that's a melee nuke that takes longer to pull off and does less dmg/second than a normal nuke. Even if you get blocked, 3/5 nuke isn't much better than 0 nuke if your opponent is near your level and knows how to set the autopot.

Muyo: It's about 65/70 right now, but that's going to change drastically in the next few levels as I move towards 80/85.