[GUIDE] Dual weapon INT build.

[Stress]

This guide covers the dual weapon type character. There are two possible dual weapon chars: a pure STR, or a hybrid/pure INT. The most popular approach to full STR dual builds is that of the dual bow/glavie. I have not played a dual full STR, so this guide covers the dual INT build. I played pure INT until lv 30, then switched to 1:2 hybrid. The end balance was: 61 phys: 82 magical naked. With gear on, my balance was: 70:94. At the lv 80 cap, the build has (naked) 8199 HP (with heuksal passive) and 13670 MP.
As for the eqipment, you should start off in armor until level 30. At 32, i switched to protector. Wear Protector until 7'th degree is complete, then, for 8'th degree (and later) use garment. You can just stick to protector, it's just as good.
The build uses spear and sword & shield. It requires extensive SP farming ( at least 250 k SP, are required for the perfect dual build).
As for the skills, it’s obvious that the build can be effective only at the lv 80 cap.
The trees are: Bicheon, Heuksal, Fire and Lightning. My personal favourite distribution is: bich 70, heuk 70, fire 80, light 80. You can alter this how it pleases you. Other variations include:
70 bich
80 heuk
70 light
80 fire

OR

80 bich
80 heuk
70 fire
70 lightning.

Now let’s cover the skills:
Bicheon:

Shield technique can save your life, get it.
Knock down books: max all of them, very effective skill.
Stab books: max every book (in PvP, KD + dragon sore + flower bud = at least 7 k dmg)
Passive: no ifs, no buts, max it.

Heuksal:

Soul Spear – Stun effect, very useful, max it.
Ghost Spear – Knockback effect, very good to use immediately after Soul Spear, so the opponent can’t pot.
Consider Chain Spear: books 3 and 5 are pretty good, but they cost loads of SP.
Passive: MAX it.

Fire:

NOTE: take fire imbue, but you can just as well take the light imbue, but fire is better and stronger then light.
Fire shield – immunity to ice – max it.
Flame body – you will use many physical skills: max it.
Fire protection – extra magical defence – max it.
Flame wave series: IMO a must. – leave book 1 at level 1, because maxing it is a waste of SP.
Passive: max.

Lightning:

Piercing force: a MUST for any INT build
Grass walk: max every book of it.
Skip Lion Shout, you are hybrid, not pure.
Concentration: the less damage you receive, the better. Max it
Thunderbolts: max them
Passive: max

Now, let’s cover PvP tactics. PvP-ing can be tricky, but if played right, the char can win very often. At the start you should equip your spear. Fire off your strongest nuke with the spear, and switch to S&S. Then, KD the enemy and stab him. Here, you have multiple options. The one I prefer is to Soul Spear + Ghost Spear. Alternatively you can nuke with a spear and finish the opponent up. If you are low on HP, activate shield technique and KD. (if facing STR builds). If against INT, activate fan Storm. Archers are easy prey. Against them, you should not use nukes, just KD + Stab, (repeat as much as you please), switch to spear and finish off with a nuke, if you get KD-ed switch to shield for better survivability.

As for grinding, you should generally grind with the spear and use nukes. Use a spear when you can one-shot mobs, and a sword where you two-shot mobs. Until lv 30 grind ONLY with a spear. You should grind at the highest level mob, you can one-shot kill. In this case, grind with a spear. If you want to grind two-shot mobs, grind with a sword for better survivability.

Hope the guide helps, and good luck with your dual weapon build!

NOTE: i did my best with the images, hope they are useful.

[Serdatti]

nice post

[LuCiDiTy]

may I ask why you dont have 80 fire/light and 70 hekusal/bicheon? Thats what I am going for as I am INT and my INT skills do most dmg and I only want lvl 70 on hekusal/bicheon for the skills...

[Stress]

I said, my preffered optionis 70 bich, 70 heuk, 80 fire, 80 light. You just have to read carefully.

[takolin]

90-70-70-70

And max fire nuke book1.
Fast skill/fast cooldown.
The 20% on lightning nukes will hurt.

You can also choose to max bich chains and 4hit heuksal chains.
Bich chains look nice and are fairly fast and they can make grinding more fun.
More skills to use = more farming but grinding will be worth it imo.
4hit heuk chains are quite fast and are a better option as the 5hit chains in PvP imo. Dragon takes ages to execute.


Anyway that's my planned build.
Without 2nd book of shield/fan.

[Stress]

I did not say, that dragon is good in PvP, because in the time dragon is executed, enemy can play tho hidden blade skills, or tho soul spear skills. Use dragon for PvE only. Yeah, with maxed bich chains, build requires 320 k SP >>> an extra week of SP farming....

[HBblade]

LMFAO, ur int based hybrid, yet ur suggesting a dual build w/ 80 bicehon, 80 heuksal, 70 fire, 70 light, if ur int heavy char ur dmg most likely comes from the force trees & not the weapon trees, so ur dmg in every way will suk & u wont kill anything

[flexo]

looks nice...was thinking of changing my char into a dual weapon too...
but is the hybrid really needed?? i'd like to stay pure int

any comment??


ow btw i would get lion shout anyway... it's always handy for killing low lvl mobs fast when your hunting or helping low lvl's trade but don't max it.

[REASONS]

i recommand you max hekusal to 60 only max passive and thats it
dual weap is not that good

because after the ur opponent stands up after stab, a nuke does more damage than soul spear or ghost spear

[flexo]

i recommand you max hekusal to 60 only max passive and thats it
dual weap is not that good

because after the ur opponent stands up after stab, a nuke does more damage than soul spear or ghost spear

yeah doubting about the effectiveness of this build too....those korean guys use it and it looks very good when you know how to handle it. but i would say that a nuke is more effective too. But they rarely use it only at the start of the fight.

Maybe the spear skills are faster and give over time more dmg then a nuke??

[REASONS]

i recommand you max hekusal to 60 only max passive and thats it
dual weap is not that good

because after the ur opponent stands up after stab, a nuke does more damage than soul spear or ghost spear

yeah doubting about the effectiveness of this build too....those korean guys use it and it looks very good when you know how to handle it. but i would say that a nuke is more effective too. But they rarely use it only at the start of the fight.

Maybe the spear skills are faster and give over time more dmg then a nuke??

nah, ur nuke with sword does more damage with soul spear / ghost spear

[LuCiDiTy]

nah, ur nuke with sword does more damage with soul spear / ghost spear

my dmg on ex devil eyes are about 5-6k with sword 7-8k with spear. And if I use the spear skill Soul Spear Soul I do 7-8k (~9k with crit). And my fire is higher than hekusal.

For pvp s/s is good when you need more def. Agenst Glavie ex. Then you can kd-stab [switch to spear] Ghost spear/SSS.

But to pvp agenst a blader I only need spear (and shield when I am knockedown)

This is in my experience.

[Stress]

The idea of the build is to use uncurable abnormal status effects (stun, knockdown) to their best. KD, stab, then (double) soul spear + ghost spear. If the soul spear stuns, the enemy is as good as dead, because he only gets to pot once. Knockback is also very useful if you are low on HP. Again, the main power of the build consists in harnessing these uncurable statuss effects (that's how I call them). Used properly and played intelligently it can bring great benifits. I tell you this from my personal experience.

[HBblade]

The idea of the build is to use uncurable abnormal status effects (stun, knockdown) to their best. KD, stab, then (double) soul spear + ghost spear. If the soul spear stuns, the enemy is as good as dead, because he only gets to pot once. Knockback is also very useful if you are low on HP. Again, the main power of the build consists in harnessing these uncurable statuss effects (that's how I call them). Used properly and played intelligently it can bring great benifits. I tell you this from my personal experience.

u can use pot when stun , & also when ur KD FYI

[HBblade]

& if ur dmg suks, even if u always stun or kd them, u can't kill them

[Stress]

@HBblade It seems you missunderstood me. The damage does NOT suck. KD + stab damages are very good and so are soul spear and ghost spear damages. How can you say, that the damage sucks??? You will talk about the 80bich, 80 heuk, 70 fire and 70 light stuff I wrote. Well, when using WEAPON SKILLS the damage does NOT suck. If you choose to do this, the hybrid would lean towards a 2:3 (70:70 balance) int build. A guildmate of mine has skills like those and he is very strong.
I do not want to flame you, but STFU, and btw, what is the double post doing there???

[hadioz2004]

i like the build actually pretty impressive but SP farm i hve no time for

[flexo]

@HBblade It seems you missunderstood me. The damage does NOT suck. KD + stab damages are very good and so are soul spear and ghost spear damages. How can you say, that the damage sucks??? You will talk about the 80bich, 80 heuk, 70 fire and 70 light stuff I wrote. Well, when using WEAPON SKILLS the damage does NOT suck. If you choose to do this, the hybrid would lean towards a 2:3 (70:70 balance) int build. A guildmate of mine has skills like those and he is very strong.
I do not want to flame you, but STFU, and btw, what is the double post doing there???

so would this build rule as much with a pure int char. cause i kind of have a thing against hybrids, so i want to keep mine pure

[Mage Pker]

why master fire shield if i use a spear\glavie????

[flexo]

why master fire shield if i use a spear\glavie????

read the title man.. >>>>DUAL<<< weapon

=> meaning spear and sword/shield

[takolin]

LMFAO, ur int based hybrid, yet ur suggesting a dual build w/ 80 bicehon, 80 heuksal, 70 fire, 70 light, if ur int heavy char ur dmg most likely comes from the force trees & not the weapon trees, so ur dmg in every way will suk & u wont kill anything

Learn to read the whole post.
He said his favourite was 80fire/light 70 heuk/bich.

The others were variations.

TBA the damage doesn't suck and mars after a KD is much faster as a nuke.

KD > triple stab > mars.
If your oponent is nearly dead use SSS or fire nuke book 2.
If he isn't nearly dead go back to KD.

It'll require some parctice for the switching but it'll work out nice if you master it.

[Stress]

@flexo The build might work for pure int. Generally, comparing pure int S&S with hybrid INT Spear works like this: The sword's extra defence (the shield) = the spear's extra STR and the sword's damage (with pure INT) is pretty much the same as with hybrid INT spear. So combinig the two and making a hybrid INT dual has great advantages: GOOD defence from shield+extra STR, GOOD damage from Spear. IF you like, you can go pure. Again, it's your choice. If you want more detail (for the skills) PM me and I can explain.

[flexo]

@flexo The build might work for pure int. Generally, comparing pure int S&S with hybrid INT Spear works like this: The sword's extra defence (the shield) = the spear's extra STR and the sword's damage (with pure INT) is pretty much the same as with hybrid INT spear. So combinig the two and making a hybrid INT dual has great advantages: GOOD defence from shield+extra STR, GOOD damage from Spear. IF you like, you can go pure. Again, it's your choice. If you want more detail (for the skills) PM me and I can explain.

ok thnx.. well i think i got the skills figured out.
here check it out.
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/?profile=9711

[Embodiment]

Duel wpn's work just fine...atleast you'll have a chance of killing people...unlike single wpn's. Int Sword vs Int Sword lvl 80 is a big time pot war..unless someone sux...but if you switch to spear it will turn into a fight and if Int Sword nukes u for 3k with sheild then he'll only do 4k with a max of 5k without sheild...plus duel will have more hps so 5k nuke isn't nothing..keep your soul spears..coming and mars the swordie will die...i did this build just to kill people..i'm a thief after all no point in getting into pot wars with traders/hunters I play to kill not to stay alive. I have a 9 gap with duel wpn's so far i need 18k more sp to finish getting the masteies up i'll repost let you know how strong it is when i'm farmed.

[:.:.:]

this is my current build
so i have somethings to say
first its better u be FULL INT, ur damage as hibrid will suck, so stay pure, with kd,stun,and knockback u will hardly get hit anyway, then wear protector, u dont have the ice buff u need the extra phy def.
then MAX fire wall is a godly skill, a glaiver need 3 hits to finish u maxed wall and while u are on it u CANT be stuned,kded,freeze,knockback, with max fire wall u can use the nuke and a kd.The reasons to use ghost spear instead of a nuke is cuz nukes sux at 1x1, they hit hard but are slow, ur enemy will drink a x-large pot every 0,5 secs, so with only nukes u wont do damage to kill he, just use the nukes to start the fight, after u kd u enemy change to spear, if u crit on the last hit of stab than just use a ghost spear mars, if not use soul spear soul and mars, mars is a instant skill in a lvl 77 glaiver in pimp garms a gsm from a int hit for 6k in less than a second.
look at Zodiackiller from aege, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73-WbY4w0p4

he is pure int, look at how he plays, if he dont get a kd or get stunned he phantom away and start all over again, thats why u should be pure, whit all the tools u have u opponent will almost dont hit u, u have stun,knockback,kd,ironwall,firewall, so use it to u def and go pure

right now my masteries are: 63 bicheon, 63 fire, 55 light and 61 heuksal
i am farming to put all in 63 and i will go to bicheon to 68 and fire 68
this build takes alot of farming i farmed more than 100k already and i still need tons of sp to finish it, but i am already killing glaivers of my lvl

[zephyr]

this is my current build
so i have somethings to say
first its better u be FULL INT, ur damage as hibrid will suck, so stay pure, with kd,stun,and knockback u will hardly get hit anyway, then wear protector, u dont have the ice buff u need the extra phy def.
then MAX fire wall is a godly skill, a glaiver need 3 hits to finish u maxed wall and while u are on it u CANT be stuned,kded,freeze,knockback, with max fire wall u can use the nuke and a kd.The reasons to use ghost spear instead of a nuke is cuz nukes sux at 1x1, they hit hard but are slow, ur enemy will drink a x-large pot every 0,5 secs, so with only nukes u wont do damage to kill he, just use the nukes to start the fight, after u kd u enemy change to spear, if u crit on the last hit of stab than just use a ghost spear mars, if not use soul spear soul and mars, mars is a instant skill in a lvl 77 glaiver in pimp garms a gsm from a int hit for 6k in less than a second.
look at Zodiackiller from aege, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73-WbY4w0p4

he is pure int, look at how he plays, if he dont get a kd or get stunned he phantom away and start all over again, thats why u should be pure, whit all the tools u have u opponent will almost dont hit u, u have stun,knockback,kd,ironwall,firewall, so use it to u def and go pure

right now my masteries are: 63 bicheon, 63 fire, 55 light and 61 heuksal
i am farming to put all in 63 and i will go to bicheon to 68 and fire 68
this build takes alot of farming i farmed more than 100k already and i still need tons of sp to finish it, but i am already killing glaivers of my lvl

+1
this is how you play pure int chars with all their potential

[Stress]

My argument is the following: if you're pure and a glaive stuns the first SSS then SSM and GSM, you're as good as dead. But if you are hybrid provided the extra defence of the shield, you will not die. I myself died at 36 (where I was practically pure, having added just 6 pionts to STR) after SST(stun+crit) + ghost spear (bk.1). At 62, being hybrid INT I tanked SSS (crit + stun) + SST + GSP (bk.2). I actually won the fight (after the crit) with shield tehnique + 2 KD in a row + SSS + GSP. So being hybird can be an advantage, but pure will also work.

[:.:.:]

a full pimped pure int at lvl 80 have almost 10k hp
thats is enought to tank a crit
look at the video
u wont stay there if u get stun waiting for the next hit, u must phantom away
if u turn yourself hibrid u damage with a sword wont be enought to kill anyone
a hibrid must use spear all the time cuz u crits are crap and u dont have the damage of a full int

[Stress]

Yes, the damage on hybrid is not that big as it is on pure, but as I pvp'ed many types of opponents, none of them ever got near to kill me. For example, my KD+double stab did a total of around 5.5k damage at lv 52. (In the late 5x levels, the damage would geneally be close to 7k). After that I would switch to spear and GSP -> DEAD. And even if glaives crit me twice in a row, I would still not die. Because of my constand KD and knockbacks, virtually no build was getting even close to killing me. And I packed sufficient punch to kill effectively.

[zephyr]

Wait till you get to level 64+ and have +400HP/+5Str on as many items as possible. Also wait until the glaivers are 64+ and get 15k-20k HP.