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Jadekiss wrote:dont be so arrogant ! You never tried this build out so you cant judge it ! right now there is only 1 of i dont know how many ppl told me that this build bored him/her lots of ppl wrote me a PM that this build rocks in pve also in pvp ppl also think full int char sux in pvp ? haha i can say only go and watch some good full int chars with armor against a full str glavier... they can still own them. so why the **** should a 70:70 balance hybrid sux ? thats just lame to judge about something if you dont know anything about it !
You shouldn't take things so personal Jade, can't imagine how fragile you must be in real life
@Dempster im not fragile ! I accept all your opinion on this Bow but you cant judge something if you dont know anything about it !
Thats the fact. I wont also post into a thread that his/her build sux without trying it.
Ok this build might be not the best bow build i agree with that point but it doesnt sux.
Every build has their strenght and weakness!
I would either go 70:70 bow or full str bow.
Jadekiss wrote:@Dempster im not fragile ! I accept all your opinion on this Bow but you cant judge something if you dont know anything about it ! Thats the fact. I wont also post into a thread that his/her build sux without trying it. Ok this build might be not the best bow build i agree with that point but it doesnt sux. Every build has their strenght and weakness! I would either go 70:70 bow or full str bow.
I'm tryin to be nice here, its not just me sayin it, this build may do very well at farming items/sp whatever you use it for, but in the end its not as good as a pure str in pvp, thats it. no if ands or buts (unless you got sosun bow then you can pretty much do whatever 'floats your boat'
Jadekiss wrote:@Dempster im not fragile ! I accept all your opinion on this Bow but you cant judge something if you dont know anything about it ! Thats the fact. I wont also post into a thread that his/her build sux without trying it. Ok this build might be not the best bow build i agree with that point but it doesnt sux. Every build has their strenght and weakness! I would either go 70:70 bow or full str bow.
I'm tryin to be nice here, its not just me sayin it, this build may do very well at farming items/sp whatever you use it for, but in the end its not as good as a pure str in pvp, thats it. no if ands or buts (unless you got sosun bow then you can pretty much do whatever 'floats your boat'
Well, we shouldnt discuss about this build until someone can post a vid about it in pvp with non-sox items !
I know this build dont have lots of HP but the mag will balance it !
btw. im glad that we all stopped with flaming lol
@I.WANNA.BE.MADE lol wow nice dude you get the 80:80 balance on lvl 48... would you do us a favour and go pvp some ppl and make some vids of your fights ?
would be nice to see how it work on lvl 48 on pvp
JadeKiss wrote:Well, we shouldnt discuss about this build until someone can post a vid about it in pvp with non-sox items !
Ironic statements aside, I believe it is perfectly valid for folks to continue discussing the theory of this build for the time being. Even after a video is provided, there will still be other things to theorize about, such as how can the build be more effectively played, things that can be done to trim the SP need, ways to improve upon the build itself, etc. And that's assuming the video shows the 70:70 is not an utter failure. There is a lot more discussion that could be had. It'd be a shame to hang it up right now and wait for a video that may never arrive.
I.WANNA.BE.MADE wrote:i got it !
Whoa, that's great. Now could you get a nuke up to the same level as your strongest skill and give us a comparison of the damage dealt? The answer to this question has the potential to bring this build to its knees: if the nuke is stronger, it is pointless to maintain equal balances and not use a spear or sword/shield.
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ppl approved that pure int sux in pvp. But when the alchemy update came, ppl changed their mind their mind and approved that pure int own in pvp.
In anycase, if u want to compare, compare when they are fully pimped.
Hybrid bow can have same amount of HP & balance as pure if they have good gear.
Gear>Build
btw, im in Xian, lvl 24, who wants to test build, pm me for pvp
@jadekiss, i told u to test damage against player in garment and in armor. Next time, give me ss, ok?
@NuclearSilo well, i cant play SRO right now i have some provider problems. I have versatel as provider and if i start SRO the Start Button need over 1 minute to appear !
if i log in i lag like hell and get disconnected after 10 sec.
This problem happened to me for 1 months ago and it came back now =_=
so im sry i cant play lol
(the problem was the connection to korea was deffected by a seaquake but now i dont know why it happened again)
There you can see the formula that people got after discussing here and on the tavern. As you can see the % increase of the skill affects both phys and mag.
Latest addition Now that I kill them all I can rest in peace ^^
There you can see the formula that people got after discussing here and on the tavern. As you can see the % increase of the skill affects both phys and mag.
I knew that the % affects both phy mag part when i was a newbie -.-. When i was a pure int, i realized that a skill with 250% give more damage than skill 150%, no matter the phy boost behind. So no need to discuss more. And i knew also that the critical only affect the damage output = double the phy power when the defence and absoprtion of the enemy is already counted.
NuclearSilo wrote:=.= ppl approved that pure int sux in pvp. But when the alchemy update came, ppl changed their mind their mind and approved that pure int own in pvp. In anycase, if u want to compare, compare when they are fully pimped. Hybrid bow can have same amount of HP & balance as pure if they have good gear. Gear>Build
btw, im in Xian, lvl 24, who wants to test build, pm me for pvp
@jadekiss, i told u to test damage against player in garment and in armor. Next time, give me ss, ok?
That is if the str persons dont put anything on there gear. I now fight with a couple of bow users of my lvl and around my lvl. I dont have any problem with int bow users. If they dont land 2 crits after eachother on me, I can tank them easely. They on the other hand cant take 1 crit from me.
So where is that Wind guy you're talking about Jadekiss ? It's more than a week and I just can't see him, and you told me that he said he would put some guides and vids here ? Maybe in 2010 when everyone quit SRO and Wind will be the best among the mobs ?
@Charlotte yeah thats true, i said that !
Wind told me that he would post a guide here i should wait and look for it.
I asked him for 2 days ago again and he said that he has also a real life which he must take care of it !
I cant do anything we can only wait and hope that he will keep his word and post his guide here !
im sry
HAHA i think he make up everything about WIND so obvious.. he is crapping.. the WIND is himself!! he is using everyone here to experiment about the build! he is trying to waste everyones TIME !!!! to see the result
i dont think Wind need to test since he was lvl 70 when i stoped with sro (setember) he must know very well this build.
and i can only laught at ppl that say pure int sucks at pvp
sutax wrote:HAHA i think he make up everything about WIND so obvious.. he is crapping.. the WIND is himself!! he is using everyone here to experiment about the build! he is trying to waste everyones TIME !!!! to see the result
Jadekiss wrote:@I.WANNA.BE.MADE lol wow nice dude you get the 80:80 balance on lvl 48... would you do us a favour and go pvp some ppl and make some vids of your fights ? would be nice to see how it work on lvl 48 on pvp
@I.WANNA.BE.MADE haha voll vergessen das du deutschsprachig bist xD
well the vid is not bad but full str bow isnt really a victim for you, its a glavier and blader :/
but well i hope you have fun with that char just wait till you got to lvl 70+ than you can go hunting ysu und yarkan
<off topic> Hatte keine ahnung dass Jadekiss deutsch spricht.... lol Whatever about the video, I'm curious about the full STR's gear... I doubt they were equal gear, but, it doesn't matter anyway. The guy who made the video, should test the damage of fire bk 2 with a spear and compare it with Strong Bow with a bow. If the nuke does more damage, then it's better to use Spear/ Sword.
jade tried out ur build on pacific, and i must say that it has a lot of potential. i did, however, stop playing it as i felt like making my own build so that i could have the satisfaction of saying that my char is really my own creation.
tiglari51 wrote:<off topic> Hatte keine ahnung dass Jadekiss deutsch spricht.... lol Whatever about the video, I'm curious about the full STR's gear... I doubt they were equal gear, but, it doesn't matter anyway. The guy who made the video, should test the damage of fire bk 2 with a spear and compare it with Strong Bow with a bow. If the nuke does more damage, then it's better to use Spear/ Sword.
lol tja man lernt doch immer dazu
well the pure str wear garment and the hybrid armor/protector... i cant see it clear. Well i think the strong bow would do a higher damage but im not sure.
@asianair09 thx that you tried out the build =)
Well i can understand to ! Making chars from some guides is sometimes boring well i wish you good luck ^^
tiglari51 wrote:The guy who made the video, should test the damage of fire bk 2 with a spear and compare it with Strong Bow with a bow. If the nuke does more damage, then it's better to use Spear/ Sword.
Didn't I already say that twice in this thread?
(The answer to that question is yes)
Come on, I.WANNA.BE.MADE. Hook us up with some information.
I used to have a hybrid int nuker level 67. I just started using it since i finished my 80str. I bought 300 silk for the 67 and i now have an archer level 67 with the 80:80build. Its at 80:83 right now. And 100%farmed for its level. Gear is sos+3/4 and the non-so sparts are +5 minimum. The bow is just a +7 with no blues or good stats. But I have to say it does do better then most bowers but still dies pretty easily. In the end I dont feel i wasted my 30usd for the silk. might have been a good choice but i will definetly quit this char now. And why dnt both of you stop your rants and just post a good video of "wind" in pvp. I will do the same once i have time and register for full version of fraps.
>Had to remove my Signature because idiots kept begging for accounts<
FuryAngle... well i cant believe it either but nvm i gave up to wait for wind's vid etc. i dont make sense to wait for him.... i didnt keep his word and didnt post his guide here !
Well he has a RL like we all have so i cant blame him !
Hopefully you can post a nice vid of the bow char in pvp, but try to play tactically, which means run +hit tactic bowers arent tanker. But well
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