Alchemy FTW

Vandango · Post by **Vandango** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:52 pm

O Yea

Then 1 Int Stone

This Bow was plain when i started
+3 was already there

naljamees51 · Post by **naljamees51** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:54 pm

nice...now u need to raise the critic and other stuff

Vandango · Post by **Vandango** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:55 pm

naljamees51 wrote:nice...now u need to raise the critic and other stuff

i tried to it failed haha

Lixiae · Post by **Lixiae** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:57 pm

lol lemme know how much you like alchemy when you're using 5 million dollar str stones.

Susanoo · Post by **Susanoo** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:09 pm

Nice assimilation... Your Magic reinforcement to 0%

Rockshmo · Post by **Rockshmo** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:19 pm

Those pants make you look fat..

Oh yeah nice +4 int/str on the bow.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:22 pm

i just did the same thing on a wrist yesterday, int5 str5 two stones

woot.

nice

Stallowned · Post by **Stallowned** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:27 pm

Not really FTW when things get assimilated way down on both times

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:44 pm

Stallowned wrote:Not really FTW when things get assimilated way down on both times

i think i would take int and str 4 over (+20%) or whatever on reinforce.

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:54 pm

PsYch008 wrote:
Stallowned wrote:Not really FTW when things get assimilated way down on both times :)

i think i would take int and str 4 over (+20%) or whatever on reinforce.

reinforce is more important than you'd think. start making ruby stones, young padawan.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:50 pm

SuicideGrl wrote:
PsYch008 wrote:
Stallowned wrote:Not really FTW when things get assimilated way down on both times

i think i would take int and str 4 over (+20%) or whatever on reinforce.

reinforce is more important than you'd think. start making ruby stones, young padawan.

does it really make that much of a diff? I have never done any testing with reinforce, can you explain it a bit to me?

blutrausch · Post by **blutrausch** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:14 pm

it affects your damage more than str does

Krais · Post by **Krais** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:22 pm

on my nuker i was looking for a 42 sword, but normally you would find 4x items near east gate in Hotan, but there was literally NO stalls, cause everyone at 4x bots.. so i go to donwhang, find a 42+0 lucky 1 for 280k, i buy it, get +1 and +2, takes the lucky, and it fails +3, then i spent around 4.3m in elixirs and powders trying to +3 it and it just keeps failing to +2, i gave up, this game is so rigged i swear it hates me ><

Megalomaniac · Post by **Megalomaniac** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:32 pm

Nice lol.
Why arent you wearing any shoulders? xD

Krais · Post by **Krais** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:10 pm

Megalomaniac wrote:Nice lol.
Why arent you wearing any shoulders? xD

Its in his inventory silly XD

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:18 pm

man i hate 5 degree armor, esp female, SOOOOO UGLY :banghead:

Nave47 · Post by **Nave47** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:38 pm

You should try to +5 it, But if you fail don't make a thread named "Alchemy FTL".

EliteHealer · Post by **EliteHealer** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:48 pm

SuicideGrl wrote:reinforce is more important than you'd think. start making ruby stones, young padawan.

+1

My lvl 26 spear with +91% mag. reinforce and +60% mag. attack does more damage than my lvl 26 +2 spear with less mag. reinforce. The good thing is that most people who sell weapons don't take the reinforce into consideration when pricing it, so I bought my spear for about as much as it would cost if there was a lvl 26 NPC spear.

Megalomaniac · Post by **Megalomaniac** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:01 pm

Krais wrote:
Megalomaniac wrote:Nice lol.
Why arent you wearing any shoulders? xD

Its in his inventory silly XD

But hes not wearing it xD and its protector, mehhhh.

Krais · Post by **Krais** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:34 pm

Megalomaniac wrote:
Krais wrote:
Megalomaniac wrote:Nice lol.
Why arent you wearing any shoulders? xD

Its in his inventory silly XD

But hes not wearing it xD and its protector, mehhhh.

=S

BTW: update, i finally +3'd the sword and leveled to 42 wo0t.

Ergonio · Post by **Ergonio** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:38 pm

blutrausch wrote:it affects your damage more than str does

reinforcement has NOTHING to do with damage. it's about how fast durability goes DOWN when using either phy. or magical attacks.

EliteHealer wrote:
SuicideGrl wrote:reinforce is more important than you'd think. start making ruby stones, young padawan.

+1

My lvl 26 spear with +91% mag. reinforce and +60% mag. attack does more damage than my lvl 26 +2 spear with less mag. reinforce. The good thing is that most people who sell weapons don't take the reinforce into consideration when pricing it, so I bought my spear for about as much as it would cost if there was a lvl 26 NPC spear.

again BS, reinforcement does NOTHING to damage.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:48 pm

Ergonio wrote:
blutrausch wrote:it affects your damage more than str does

reinforcement has NOTHING to do with damage. it's about how fast durability goes DOWN when using either phy. or magical attacks.

EliteHealer wrote:
SuicideGrl wrote:reinforce is more important than you'd think. start making ruby stones, young padawan.

+1

My lvl 26 spear with +91% mag. reinforce and +60% mag. attack does more damage than my lvl 26 +2 spear with less mag. reinforce. The good thing is that most people who sell weapons don't take the reinforce into consideration when pricing it, so I bought my spear for about as much as it would cost if there was a lvl 26 NPC spear.

again BS, reinforcement does NOTHING to damage.

i have heard about what you are saying, and i am pretty sure you are correct about reinforcement, im pretty sure it doesnt affect damage. If it does, i havent noticed it.

Krais · Post by **Krais** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:50 pm

PsYch008 wrote:
Ergonio wrote:
blutrausch wrote:it affects your damage more than str does

reinforcement has NOTHING to do with damage. it's about how fast durability goes DOWN when using either phy. or magical attacks.

EliteHealer wrote:
SuicideGrl wrote:reinforce is more important than you'd think. start making ruby stones, young padawan.

+1

My lvl 26 spear with +91% mag. reinforce and +60% mag. attack does more damage than my lvl 26 +2 spear with less mag. reinforce. The good thing is that most people who sell weapons don't take the reinforce into consideration when pricing it, so I bought my spear for about as much as it would cost if there was a lvl 26 NPC spear.

again BS, reinforcement does NOTHING to damage.

i have heard about what you are saying, and i am pretty sure you are correct about reinforcement, im pretty sure it doesnt affect damage. If it does, i havent noticed it.

There was a whole thread about this, and calculations proving that reinforcement DOES increase damage.

Ergonio · Post by **Ergonio** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:53 pm

easy way to test.
make a lv1 char, buy 2 swords in the shop.
so all %'s are 0

on 1 sword up the reinforcement with atleast 50% and nothing else.
see if your damage goes up by 1 or maybe more. when using the sword with upped reinforce%.
then we have our answer.
anyone care to test it? i'll help.....

we won't need calculations, and can see hard evidence with our own eyes.

Krais · Post by **Krais** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:54 pm

Ergonio wrote:easy way to test.
make a lv1 char, buy 2 swords in the shop.
so all %'s are 0

on 1 sword up the reinforcement with atleast 50% and nothing else.
see if your damage goes up by 1 or maybe more. when using the sword with upped reinforce%.
then we have our answer.
anyone care to test it? i'll help.....

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=24529&highlight=reinforcement+calculation

Read this please, get your facts straight before Telling people their facts are BS.

and at lvl 1, the damage difference is too little to even check damage, im pretty sure at lvl 1 the spear and glaive are only 1 phy. damage apart.

Krais · Post by **Krais** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:55 pm

Read the first page, explains it all when NuclearSilo posts.

phresh · Post by **phresh** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:58 pm

Stallowned wrote:Not really FTW when things get assimilated way down on both times

+1

shoto · Post by **shoto** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:29 pm

is that supposed to be impressive?
no offense to poster...but alchemy is so easy (Full Blue in first go) for me but i'm 3rd degree so maybe it gets harder higher up?
it probably gets harder...damn...

Susanoo · Post by **Susanoo** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:07 am

No it doesnt get harder, sometimes alchemy on an item is easy sometimes it isnt. I have done a lot of alchemy on my items and at times they were easy and on other times they were not.

Stallowned · Post by **Stallowned** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:37 pm

Ergonio wrote:easy way to test.
make a lv1 char, buy 2 swords in the shop.
so all %'s are 0

on 1 sword up the reinforcement with atleast 50% and nothing else.
see if your damage goes up by 1 or maybe more. when using the sword with upped reinforce%.
then we have our answer.
anyone care to test it? i'll help.....

we won't need calculations, and can see hard evidence with our own eyes.

You know, YOU should really be the one to test this BEFORE you come in here opening your mouth :roll: