Bigred The Hacker/scammer Murdered [Elderado]

HellsAdvocate · Post by **HellsAdvocate** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:05 pm

BigRed recently hacked/scammed me. I lended my trust to him and he took advantage of it. This act can not be condonned or accepted. If you see him or any member of his guild or union please make sure they know that there is a hacker/scammer in thier guild/union

BigRed murder count: 1

That count will rise whenever I see him.

This is Elderado server btw

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:06 pm

what did he do?

Doppleganger · Post by **Doppleganger** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:15 pm

HellsAdvocate wrote:BigRed recently hacked/scammed me. I lended my trust to him and he took advantage of it.

That was your mistake.

HellsAdvocate · Post by **HellsAdvocate** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:15 pm

Oh sorry I left that out, thought it was kind of obvious. He took about 50mil worth of items and gold off my account and held it hostage for about a week so that my guild would stop spawning on his.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:18 pm

how did he "take" items from you? And TBH if you were spawning on my guild all the time, then i would steal shit and hold it from you too if i could.

thats pretty gay imo.

HellsAdvocate · Post by **HellsAdvocate** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:23 pm

PsYch008 wrote:how did he "take" items from you? And TBH if you were spawning on my guild all the time, then i would steal shit and hold it from you too if i could.

thats pretty gay imo.

We started spawning on him AFTER he took my stuff

your pretty retarded, imo.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:30 pm

It's a loophole. You gave him your info = Retarded. You spawn on him = Retarded. You make a post about it = Retarded.

I = Retarded
Psycho008 = Hot

See One big circle

purified · Post by **purified** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:33 pm

What will murdering him do, nothing. They only lose an average 30k-140k exp, and what will you lose, having to die off 5-10 % exp, dying and losing an item, wasting time grinding it off, seriously, is it really worth murdering someone.

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:38 pm

PsYch008 wrote:how did he "take" items from you?

@ HellsAdvocate You gave pass and login name to him? Or what?

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:45 pm

HellsAdvocate wrote:Oh sorry I left that out, thought it was kind of obvious. He took about 50mil worth of items and gold off my account and held it hostage for about a week so that my guild would stop spawning on his.

when you say something like that, it implies that you were spawning on his guild, so he took some of your shit. Learn to speak english correctly before calling me retarded. thanks.

and plus44 = hotter than me.

Anyeong · Post by **Anyeong** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:47 pm

BigRed wasn't alone in this, he didn't know the secret answer to the secret question to properly hack/steal the account. With the help of Angelice (a.k.a. SeksiLexy of Greece), all Angelice had to do with Hells is ask him certain questions, ironically as slow as Hells is...he gave it out without realizing it. Yes, OWNED.

How Hells got his account back is a long story, but to keep a long story short, all that was accomplished through this was just exposing the untrustful nature of BigRed and his accomplices. Also keep in mind the age of BigRed, he hasn't hit puberty just yet, I think he's around 14 years old? Yes, he still squeaks.

BigRed (a.k.a. Pegasus of Greece) stole/hacked accounts, and even globals the victims info in amusement. Great kid to have in a guild, and in a union. I hope Obscene investigates this, as well as the other guilds in the union.

xRecoil · Post by **xRecoil** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:54 pm

What is wrong with being 14 and not hitting puberty? Find a reasonable argument?

I would like too see proof of hacked accounts etc, or it just looks like a bunch of Bologna, anyway whats up with the major flames on everyone today.

Crunked420 · Post by **Crunked420** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:56 pm

Trust someone in a video game? lol.. I only trust the people that I know personally other than that, saying "Here I trust you, hold my 100mil gold even though all i know about you is your game name" is a big red flag for "steal me!!!!!!"... IMO it's your fault so you're the only one to blame.. You're just lucky he didn't take your character and strip everything. Just make sure gullible is not written on your forehead. :roll:

phresh · Post by **phresh** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:57 pm

purified wrote:What will murdering him do, nothing. They only lose an average 30k-140k exp, and what will you lose, having to die off 5-10 % exp, dying and losing an item, wasting time grinding it off, seriously, is it really worth murdering someone.

Why yes, it is. If it makes you feel better it certainly is. Of course there is a point of diminishing returns when you lvl down and then the emotional distress of the lost work starts to outweigh that of being scammed.

Moral of the story: don't trust randoms lol.

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:58 pm

yea if you were stupid enough to give out info that lead to your account getting hacked, maybe you should think JUST A LITTLE bit about what you are saying to people and how that info may be used. maybe? yea maybe.

Anyeong · Post by **Anyeong** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:10 am

xRecoil wrote:What is wrong with being 14 and not hitting puberty? Find a reasonable argument?

His youth plays a big role in all of this, don't be blind. Example: easily influenced, less disciplined, less experienced, more reckless, etc etc.

Not that I'm saying all younger people are like that, but when you mention the age of a person, a group of people that read this will be like "ohhh duh..damn kid." and another group would maybe like "hes attacking us younger people, everyone unite!"

Sorry to offend anyone that misunderstood this

Crunked420 · Post by **Crunked420** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:13 am

*Hears the song by REM, "Everyone Hurts Sometime"*

Well, killing, murdering, telling other people that he hacked him isn't going to do anything, only thing can be done is if he learns from his mistakes rather than trying to blame it on someone else.

Anyeong · Post by **Anyeong** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:19 am

Actually it is pretty effective, someone like BigRed is the type of player that is careful and dislikes dieing, he goes through anger phases when that happens, by murdering him, Hells knows it bothers him. It's sorta a psychological tactic obviously. And of course spreading around that he's a hacker/scammer is just the icying on the cake, there are a lot of people in the server that hate botters, of course, but most of all, scammers and hackers. Do the fkn math, god.

Crunked420 · Post by **Crunked420** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:23 am

Do the F'ing math!? um... If I killed him, I'd have murder status, and I'd have to work it off or die it off and possibly lose something on me or my inventory if someone kills me.. You're SMRT! (purposely forgot the A)

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:25 am

Crunked420 wrote:Do the F'ing math!? um... If I killed him, I'd have murder status, and I'd have to work it off or die it off and possibly lose something on me or my inventory if someone kills me.. You're SMRT! (purposely forgot the A)

lol pwnt.

ciddy · Post by **ciddy** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:31 am

arent you a botter???

it's called karma

Anyeong · Post by **Anyeong** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:33 am

Crunked420 wrote:Do the F'ing math!? um... If I killed him, I'd have murder status, and I'd have to work it off or die it off and possibly lose something on me or my inventory if someone kills me.. You're SMRT! (purposely forgot the A)

You honestly think Hells would just murder him in broad day light with 12 other people around him or something? In other words you think Hells would be that stupid? Come on!!!! If anyone is to murder anyone, they'd have to do it smart in a way that it's to their own advantage, not their disadvantage of losing exp/sp and items. But it seems to me you lack the capacity to plans things out like that at all.

Dark Shifter · Post by **Dark Shifter** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:54 am

Xia_Hou_Dun wrote:arent you a botter???

it's called karma

hahahaha wow. he just pwned himself! oh well...

Demarthl · Post by **Demarthl** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:56 am

Xia_Hou_Dun wrote:arent you a botter???
it's called karma

thats what i call royally pwnt. kudos to you new person.

Angelice · Post by **Angelice** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:03 am

Anyeong wrote:BigRed wasn't alone in this, he didn't know the secret answer to the secret question to properly hack/steal the account. With the help of Angelice (a.k.a. SeksiLexy of Greece), all Angelice had to do with Hells is ask him certain questions, ironically as slow as Hells is...he gave it out without realizing it. Yes, OWNED.

How Hells got his account back is a long story, but to keep a long story short, all that was accomplished through this was just exposing the untrustful nature of BigRed and his accomplices. Also keep in mind the age of BigRed, he hasn't hit puberty just yet, I think he's around 14 years old? Yes, he still squeaks.

BigRed (a.k.a. Pegasus of Greece) stole/hacked accounts, and even globals the victims info in amusement. Great kid to have in a guild, and in a union. I hope Obscene investigates this, as well as the other guilds in the union.

Take your accusations elsewhere. Hells made the biggest mistake that anyone in this game could have made. And thats giving his username and password to someone and then pissing them off so hard that they temporarily stole the account.

Don't forget, he got the account back because I told red to do so. Otherwise, Hells wouldn't have his account back period.

And acting emo like you are doesn't make it any less stupid of an act for him to do.

IMO everyone with the exception of a couple of people in that guild deserves to be taught a lesson like this. And Anyeong, I hope you get banned from Eldorado.

And as far as Red stealing and hacking accounts, you can stop there also. The kid doesn't even know how to hack.... nor do I...

Put your foot in your mouth again Anye... its always quite amusing when you do.

shoto · Post by **shoto** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:06 am

i love how there is no love for retards on these forums...poor topic starter person.

karlek33 · Post by **karlek33** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:12 am

HellsAdvocate from what information I gather you are being rude to BigRed and he got fed up with you. Also if you murder him you are on the losing side because you lose exp/time/ and eventually items

nightbloom · Post by **nightbloom** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:20 am

Sharp324 · Post by **Sharp324** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:34 am

geez people be alittle more paranoid with your stuff, like me i take half a inventory of X-large pills when i go on trades from jang to DW in case a popping theif comes, be like that

PegasusBigRed · Post by **PegasusBigRed** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:59 am

... can't believe i made an account here just to join the flame

Ok to get the facts straight lets start from the beginning of my adventures.
Ill start the beginning off very quickly so we get to the current.:

I started playing on venice as my first big high level server. I sp farmed 10k at lvl 16 and then moved onto lvl 32 when i join my first big guild, eXile(i think thats what it was called). The guild then join GoodFellaZ's union and eventually merged with them. Around when i was lvl 56 we all moved to greece where i made Pegasus. Pegasus was my favorite character i wuld have to say bcuz it was just so much fun on greece with my guildies for those few months. Then when i got to lvl 55 i went on a hunter run where i find Cronus with a 3/4/5 star loud he had jacked s o i helped kill his thiefs, when then a lvl 64 SOS SPEAR!@ dropped and i was happy and bragged a whole bunch. So life went on , i hit lvl 63 and +5'ed my spear and when i hit 64 i was having a blast. Then around lvl 67/68 drama started and the guild started plotting behind my back and eventually BF2Player who is someone that was in the guild and i bought my silk from scammed me and that was the end of that after i begged ofr it about a day i gave up. I went back to my lvl 56 nuker and got him to lvl 60 and started sp farming him. One of my friends from greece i started talking to her again over xfire, Her name was Nicole(ign Angelice). So i decided to come to elderado and join her and some of the people i knw from greece. I started sp farming at lvl 16 an di got 15k sp. after that i got bored and started lvling. around the low lvls in 5x there was a big fight with the guild and nicole (still i do not know what happend except for the same Anyeong drama) After that nicole went to a guild in the union to relax. Anyeong threated to kcik that guild form the union so they left and all of that guilds other guil friends went with them making thier union collapse. So at this time i was still in the guild nicole just left and it was hectic, i didn't like what happened but i stayed anyways. They ended up joinning the union to one of the guilds which i thought we hated O_o. So around lvl 60 or so Hells gave me his account info to play his char. So life went on and there was some more Nicole (angelice) and Anyeong drama. Then around lvl 65 i think there was a big fight between Rhetoric (a friend) and Anyeong. The outcome was Nicole and Rhet leaving the guild. This is when i started plotting to takes Hells's account. I had alrdy gotten the id and pw from him and i knew the email (duh) so i justed needed the secret answer. Once i had it after nicole got it form Hell's i snatched it form right under Hell's and had me and him kicked form the guild. I had originally planned to keep hells's account for my own use but after feeling smi bad and after Toilets (guild member of aneyong's +hells's side) threatend to hack or w/e nicoles accounts i stripped Hells's of all but th garment set and 500k and gave it back. While giving it back i kept the account page open on my computer and messed around with Raiden_ (another anyeong henchmen) for control of hells after i had given it back until i finally just let it go. As you see its mostly lack of Hells's IQ and Anyeong being a douche bag which lead to this whole thing. I recently solds hells items for a huge profit including his wolf =]. He can continue to murder me all he wants because i know it hurts him a lot more then the like .1% it does to me.... Let this be the end of this please, ty.

Sorry in advance for any and all spelling mistakes) :wink:

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