shield blocking ratio=how much %?

cutiemech · Post by **cutiemech** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:41 am

i saw a skill for blade which u can increase blocking by 10%.

I was wondering how much blocking % in the shield since they are many(10-19 block ratio). anyone knows? I heard that 18 blocking ratio shield can block alot. so like how many blocks can a player do?

lets say for 10 attacks how many will the player able to block?(dont consider the skill pls only the shield block ratio)

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:45 am

one would think that shield blocking ratios are out of 100%. thus, a shield w/ block 10 would block 1 in 10 shots, or 10 in 100. a shield with 18 block, then, would block 1.8 in 10 shots, or 18 in 100.

this is clearly NOT the case, however, as higher block shields block annoyingly often (:P). the only conclusion is that the blocking ratios on shields increase their chances of blocking an attack exponentially as the number rises.

as a spear user, i have no way to test this. anyone have any data?

cutiemech · Post by **cutiemech** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:50 am

yea i even saw lvl 1 seal of sun shield with 19 block ratio wonder how good does it block lol

SoPaeNii · Post by **SoPaeNii** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:47 pm

cutiemech wrote:yea i even saw lvl 1 seal of sun shield with 19 block ratio wonder how good does it block lol

i got block ratio 17 and it blocks bout once in every 5 hits or if unlucky 7 hits.... 19 probly every 3-4 hits?

Geobot · Post by **Geobot** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:13 am

here's my guess. this is a really hard one to test, so it could be wrong, but it sounds good ^^

okay it can't be a straight %, since an 18-19 block will block more than 2x what a 10 block will. also, ther'es nothing lower than 10 BR i've ever seen. this makes me think it is something exponential, but with certain caps so it's not way too low or way too high. my best guess is:

(BR^2) / 1000

meaning:

10 - 10%
11 - 12%
12 - 14%
13 - 17%
14 - 20%
15 - 23%
16 - 26%
17 - 29%
18 - 32%
19 - 36%

btw, those are rounded to nearest %

does this sound even close to anyone else? i've never seen a shield do worse than 1/10 blocking, or better than 1/3 consistently, so this way it spans that gap nice and neat.

Spurs · Post by **Spurs** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:50 pm

i think that would be a little too good of a ratio cause there is still shield mastery that adds 6-7% at lvl 60 and will still go up
cause 26% is already 68% to blk in ure scenario

TuthankhamoN · Post by **TuthankhamoN** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:42 am

i test it last nite...

with 16 / 17 and 19 block shields... also i got %2 shield block rate passive buff.

well here is the result

all of them tested by horses/ meek erth ghosts... each shield is 24 lvl random +2 ~ +4

16 block ( +4 shield ) ( + options dosent effect any blcok percantage ) blocked each 6 hits.. tis mean 5 hit and 1 block

17 ( +2 ) as same as 16... 5 hit 1 blcok

here is the miracle of 19 block ( +3 )... 3 hit and 1 block.. each time...

Lyrikk · Post by **Lyrikk** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:46 am

TuthankhamoN wrote:i test it last nite...

with 16 / 17 and 19 block shields... also i got %2 shield block rate passive buff.

well here is the result

all of them tested by horses/ meek erth ghosts... each shield is 24 lvl random +2 ~ +4

16 block ( +4 shield ) ( + options dosent effect any blcok percantage ) blocked each 6 hits.. tis mean 5 hit and 1 block

17 ( +2 ) as same as 16... 5 hit 1 blcok

here is the miracle of 19 block ( +3 )... 3 hit and 1 block.. each time...

thanks for testing that Tut, even though its not really precise information.... atleast it gives us a general idea of what that block rate is... keep in mind he has a %2 block as well

TuthankhamoN · Post by **TuthankhamoN** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:14 am

yup yup.. i dont ment its exact block rates... its all a simple test atm.. i hv no idea in pvp or higher moobs which one got more parry ratio too..

Gildy · Post by **Gildy** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:46 am

ya its not bad info on BR, im 4x an with an 18 block an my BR passives are up hardly really take damage well get hit for that case took a 60 nuker like 6 shots to finally hit LOL

he was like dam shields

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:04 am

Well tut had a good idea. Anyone want to find a bunch of 10, 15, and 18 shields (low mid hi) and let a mob of their level pound on them for a few hundred hits?

If it turns out that Geo's theory is right, it looks like it'd be better to have a lvl 21 18 block shield (57.8% blocking with passive maxed) than a lvl 41 15 block (44.1% blocking)...unless of coures the lvl 41 has enough defense on it to reduce all damage by 13%.

Geobot · Post by **Geobot** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:49 pm

what IS the highest that the blocking passive will go, btw?

TuthankhamoN · Post by **TuthankhamoN** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:35 pm

6 is max lvl.. so its mean % 12....

Geobot · Post by **Geobot** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:59 pm

so how are people coming up with these numbers?

lvl 21 18 block shield (57.8% blocking with passive maxed) than a lvl 41 15 block (44.1% blocking)

i think that would be a little too good of a ratio cause there is still shield mastery that adds 6-7% at lvl 60 and will still go up
cause 26% is already 68% to blk in ure scenario

with my theory a shield with 18BR and maxed passive would only give a 44% chance, 32 from the shield and 12 from passive.

and i'm not sure HOW spurs got 68% from what i posted. to clarify my earlier post, the number on the left is the shield's BR, and on the right is the % it gives. and like i said, it's only a theory, but i still don't see how people are pulling those numbers from it. maybe i'm missing something?

Devotia · Post by **Devotia** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:14 am

I got it by adding the two together before multiplying, which makes qiute a bit of difference. And judging from some of the NPC theives, 60% block is probably on the low end. ;p

Geobot · Post by **Geobot** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:40 am

i honestly think the npc thieves are bugged to be so damn blockful, but that's just my opinion. maybe they really did want them to be retardedly hard, lol.

but i'm not sure i've ever heard of any player character that could block 2/3's of the time, and that would be any lvl 60 with a decent shield.

not sure if they would add together before multiplying or not though. if so, then my numbers would be WAY off.

Spurs · Post by **Spurs** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:34 pm

ure theory was
br^2/1000
19br+7br from passives=26br^2=676/1000=67.6%

TuthankhamoN · Post by **TuthankhamoN** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:02 pm

and tis explianed my post above... with 19 block and %2 pasive buff 3 hit and 1 block. ... hmmm.. i'm wondering is it same ratios on pvp too... any test or idea ?