Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

[tomiotar]

You have to have tactics during a pvp with a blader. First of all you just don't stand there (i've seen a lot of bowers do this and it's very stupid). Don't pvp unless you have phantom walk (this skills is very important when using an archer with pvp) cause an archers advantage is it's long range!! I think Ice would do good in pvp since it slows down the opponent just a little bit though but not enough damage. The opponent recovers pretty quick with abnormal heals so fire is better. So instead, get the Frost Nova Series. Using this against your opponent in pvp cancels their attacks. During a pvp once Frost Nova is used they're sometimes frozen or slowed down. During that time you can phantom walk out of there and start hitting again.

Your tactics are not very impressive .

First of all, Frost Nova series sucks ass. There is no use to it. It takes lot of mp.



"Don't pvp unless you have phantom walk "

If you are in pvp, it is not time to run. When you run enemy heals herself and it will be endless potion war. Point is that you need to make maxium damage, that your opponent cant heal herself enough. There is no other way to kill enemy expect if hes retard.
Running and hiding behind own teamates is good tactic in guildwars, but not in pvp.

This skill is maybe useful if you are getting ganged by many opponents or if you just want to run when you are loosing...

You dont run, run take time. You use phantom walk and hit the skill number (so maybe you are giving your back but you turn alone to launch your arrow) so is the same time for you, but its your oponent is who has to run to catch you.


Im doing something near to that build with a 83-69 balance and yes its work realy good for me, great por PvE and very good for PvP if you know how to use it. I didnt read this before but I will try to approach the balance to that 80:80, but I think that a little bit more on physical balance is better because you can still one hit the nukers and you are sure you will be able to resist the first nuke.

[Stress]

@glavie I had sos+3 bow, a bit more MP then HP: 2700 hp, 2800 mp. main tree: fire with light buffs, and cold. Used fire imbue, with fire as main tree. cold for frost guard+passive, and the novas(only for fun, USELESS IN PvP). I think fire imbue is BETTER and STRONGER than ice imbue. Leveled lightning for grass walk, phantom walk, and buffs. Skills were good, build was 74:75. I did exceptionally good in PvE (could one-shot hyeongcheon at 35 with strong bow), but my PvP was very lacking. Glaviers crit me with SST, and I die in one hit. Out of personal expierence I can certainly tell you that full STR bow is weaker that 70:70 in pve but better than 70:70 in PvP.

[Eukanuba]

"Don't pvp unless you have phantom walk "

If you are in pvp, it is not time to run. When you run enemy heals herself and it will be endless potion war.

You're joking, right? If you play an archer and try to go toe-to-toe with a glaive or blader user of near equal level, you will most certainly die. Range is the archer's most precious advantage, and you should at all times make use of it.

[yamataka]

Just thought I would mention to all of you that are suggesting Ice for PVP ... its fairly easy for any Sword or Blade user to be completely immune to ice if they have a decent set of accessories.

[anime891]

Your tactics are not very impressive Smile.

First of all, Frost Nova series sucks ass. There is no use to it. It takes lot of mp.



"Don't pvp unless you have phantom walk "

If you are in pvp, it is not time to run. When you run enemy heals herself and it will be endless potion war. Point is that you need to make maxium damage, that your opponent cant heal herself enough. There is no other way to kill enemy expect if hes retard.
Running and hiding behind own teamates is good tactic in guildwars, but not in pvp.

This skill is maybe useful if you are getting ganged by many opponents or if you just want to run when you are loosing...

By the looks of this reply to my pvp perspective with bows, first of all, a bower can't go head to head with a blader or glavier. It takes skill to pvp with an archer build. Long range is your best friend. Keep that in mind. You can't just stand there and hope you'll beat a glavier with max damage cause first of all, glavie does more damage (depepending on what the weapon stats are) than a bow does. short range is Glavie and blade users' best friend. Against a blader, the KD's will finish you right off. Even if the bow does more damage than the blader, thing about the BR of the shield? So think about it, Phantom Walk with Frost Nova WILL save your life.

[Jadekiss]

i need to agree with anime891 it always depends on how smart you are and how your tactic on pvp act like !
you cant just stand there as an archer and shoot all the time... you can get a KD or be stuned = dead
so try to ply a bit tactically
btw i need to say im really surprised how any ppl pmed me and ask me some questions .... since i opened this thread
but right now al ot of ppl pm me and thanks me so i think this build do a great job

btw is any1 on troy ?

[senapanaga]

im bottingPlaying my 80:80 bow char right now.

Lvl 20 + 10k sp.

It's decent in PvE and i havent PvP'd.

Gonna get to 80 and see what happens.

It dies alot in PvE but im using 1st degree protector still lol...

too lazy to do any alchemy or anything on a 2nd/3rd degree set.

My sos bow is probably why i do the most dmg...

Hmm.

I have done what im diong now, (9gap on chakjis), with a pure str fire glaive at lvl 20, same stats on equipment *cuz they're using the same equipment lol* except my char had a lvl 18+3 glaive not a lvl 16 sos+3 weapon.

16+sos+3 = 24?

18+3 = 21?

Well i did notice my Glaiver did less dmg, but that might be cuz of the weapon.

Whats suprising is my pure str glaive died more, probably because my bow has range + ice imbue for PvE. Ill keep ice imbue until lvl 80 and if i decide its too weak ill get fire.

hmm.

ya i think ill like this char.

if at lvl 70 im getting pwned too much in PvP ill put all my last 10 lvls into STR. that might help.

well ttyl.

[umerasmez]

there is no such thing as ice imune.. grow up pls. my acc are 100%frost resist, the time of the frost is minimized, not the effect. true that 100% frost resist + shield series status error effect reduced helps u BUT u can't be imune to ice, to frozen status from ice... so pls do not mislead the people that want to build an ice archer, wich is surrely the best archer.

Dunno who said that it's pointless to phantom away from a blader or glavie.. hmm don't be a noob.. true when u run he pots but if u stay face 2 face and he kd's u or stuns u he pots again. He pots anyway, so the best way is to phantom and hit, don't give him the chance to hit u. Before u phantom away from him multishot imbued with ice gives a fair probability to freeze him and then hit with 2 strong crits:antidevil and berserk. I will repeat myself: DO NOT mislead the people that want to build a good char due to your so called "knowledge" of silk.

[Alfred]

there is no such thing as ice imune.. grow up pls. my acc are 100%frost resist, the time of the frost is minimized, not the effect. true that 100% frost resist + shield series status error effect reduced helps u BUT u can't be imune to ice, to frozen status from ice... so pls do not mislead the people that want to build an ice archer, wich is surrely the best archer.

wrong

who knows, they might change it in the future. but as it is know, the number that fire shield gives you works like a %.

[umerasmez]

i have tested this ice imunity mith. As i said my acc are 20% forst resist giving a total of 80% plus fireshield means a lot.
The result: still get frozen from ice, the freezing effect is minimized but it still exists.
Advantage:getting the enemy frozen stops him for 1,mby 2 secs and stops him from his combo,nuke or whatever. And in my opinion that counts a lot more than 400-500 extra dmg or 800 when u crit.

[umerasmez]

freeze can save your life sometimes, mby a lot often than u think.

[umerasmez]

building ice force at lvl 70 gives u an extra 55 phys def from guard and 44 from passive. That sums to 100phys resist = "archer wearing a lvl 60 shield".

[umerasmez]

This is my char: lvl 62 full str ice bow wearing garm. Currently i have 10300 hp and a balance of 106:45. Unfortunately i don't have enough money to do what i want with my gear (that's the case of most players).

My target lvl 80 full str ice bow with : 80pacheon, 80 cold, 70 fire, 70 lightning using these skills :
Pacheon: antidevil-max,arrowcombo-max,blue hawk-max,soul arrow-max,explosion arrow-max,mind concentration-max
Cold:ice force-max,guard of ice-max,cold armor-max
Fire:fire shield-max,flame body-max,fire protection-max,flame force-max
Lightning:piercing force-max,grasswalk-max,phantom walk-max,concentration-max, heavens force-max

To realise this char offcourse I will eat my own liver sp farmint counting that my actual status is at 210 out of 300 masteries ).

[umerasmez]

@alfred. U are wrong, for example the description of fire shield says: "Temporarily reduced the duration of all negative status effects like Frostbite, Burn, Shock, etc. ". So it's not the effect of ice, it's just the duration they are reducing and it CANNOT be reduced to zero. No one can be immune to anything. It's your choice what to use, ice for slowing your opponent, fire for dmg or lightning for deacrising parry ratio.
Beiing a full str the diffrence between the damage of ice and fire imbue is not so big.
If u say that each accesory is 100% reduce fire,electric shok and freeze totals to a 80% and fireshield lvled there is no use for imbue. That's false- you can't minimize the effect of the imbue before it hits you.
So pls do not mislead the beginers in this game with your opinions that u dreamed about lastnight. This game has a very good balance.
Sorry for beeing so harsh but i'm getting a little angry when people talk about something without beeing 100% sure. At least say at first "I think that ..."

[Alfred]

lol edit button ftw!

This discussion is both off topic and have been mentioned so many times before. And yes, my blader will never ever get frozen or zombiefied as it is now. I'm not fooling any beginner of this game, just stating the facts.

[umerasmez]

lol edit button ftw!

This discussion is both off topic and have been mentioned so many times before. And yes, my blader will never ever get frozen or zombiefied as it is now. I'm not fooling any beginner of this game, just stating the facts.

If you use 5 hit combo and someone freezes(equals stun) the combo won't be stoped? if u are an old player pls don't say that. Offcourse using pills and with the right eq the stun will have a short effect but it's still a stun, your facts... equals ......
The discusion went offtopic from page 3.

[Alfred]

My facts equals that no one can neither freeze or frostbite me as long as my fire shield buff is activated

[EllisD]

If u say that each accesory is 100% reduce fire,electric shok and freeze totals to a 80% and fireshield lvled there is no use for imbue.

You might want to re-word that sentence.

[Eukanuba]

If u say that each accesory is 100% reduce fire,electric shok and freeze totals to a 80% and fireshield lvled there is no use for imbue.

You might want to re-word that sentence.

Seconded.

[wildlag]

i have tested this ice imunity mith. As i said my acc are 20% forst resist giving a total of 80% plus fireshield means a lot.
The result: still get frozen from ice, the freezing effect is minimized but it still exists.

alfred. U are wrong, for example the description of fire shield says: "Temporarily reduced the duration of all negative status effects like Frostbite, Burn, Shock, etc. ". So it's not the effect of ice, it's just the duration they are reducing and it CANNOT be reduced to zero. No one can be immune to anything. It's your choice what to use, ice for slowing your opponent, fire for dmg or lightning for deacrising parry ratio.

...hello? you are the one misleading the beginers.
You are such a poor guy coz its only you in this game cant be immue from effects with all neccassary gears on.
You cant get immue becoz either you are lying or you are noob in math, and im shocked that you are still ignorant at your lvl.

If you really have 80% reduce from accessories, you need at least 20 reduce from fire shield which I doubt if you really have it, i dont give a shet it means 20 unit or 20% reduce, just get 20 you will see the truth and then come back to this forum and delete your own post.

IF you still cant get immue after that, then you are hopeless.

[linange]

takes a long time to read all of this......

i'm really confused... anyways... still think pure str/int kick ass, hybrid is not so good, but still can beat anyone if the player is skilled


conclusion, no best weapon/build, just the best player

[IguanaRampage]

takes a long time to read all of this......

i'm really confused... anyways... still think pure str/int kick ass, hybrid is not so good, but still can beat anyone if the player is skilled


conclusion, no best weapon/build, just the best player

hybrids can be very good, and at least hybrid bows are better than int bows.
The question here is whether there is actually an alternative to the pure str bow, which is considered to be the only reasonable bow build.

[umerasmez]

@wildlag From what you can spell correctly and becouse you are calling me a noob i gather that you are still a child. I hope you can understand one thing, there are no units, 20% means 20% of the freezing/frostbite time reduced. You are telling me that if you have a total of 100% from acc and fire shield the freezing (and by that i mean ice cube/stun) will no longer be possible. I will test this again. In the mean time try to use some manners when you are talking to someone ok?
I have talked with a lot of high lvls and ice resist is one thing but they all told me one thing: ice stun 5% probability, not quite immune to that.
Second thing you have to consider is that to make your acc 100% resist you have to spend a lot of gold and not all the players can realise that.

@EllisD and Eukanuba - correct. I didn't mean that, had another thing in my mind .

[Alfred]

@wildlag From what you can spell correctly and becouse you are calling me a noob i gather that you are still a child. I hope you can understand one thing, there are no units, 20% means 20% of the freezing/frostbite time reduced. You are telling me that if you have a total of 100% from acc and fire shield the freezing (and by that i mean ice cube/stun) will no longer be possible. I will test this again. In the mean time try to use some manners when you are talking to someone ok?
I have talked with a lot of high lvls and ice resist is one thing but they all told me one thing: ice stun 5% probability, not quite immune to that.
Second thing you have to consider is that to make your acc 100% resist you have to spend a lot of gold and not all the players can realise that.

@EllisD and Eukanuba - correct. I didn't mean that, had another thing in my mind .

To help you out on this

When the fire shield is maxed, it will reduce 78%. That means you need about 5% on every accessory. Not that hard to aquire. Also the tabs for every status are some of the most common ones to get as a drop. So at higher levels, being immune to every status is way too easy.

The freeze status (ice stun) is also an abnormal status and if you are immune to ice, you will never see this happen.

Remember, you'll have to activate fire shield for it to work. It's not a passive skill.

[Dempster]

"Don't pvp unless you have phantom walk "

If you are in pvp, it is not time to run. When you run enemy heals herself and it will be endless potion war.

You're joking, right? If you play an archer and try to go toe-to-toe with a glaive or blader user of near equal level, you will most certainly die. Range is the archer's most precious advantage, and you should at all times make use of it.

70 str archer vrs 70 glaiver, you think the archer will die each time?

[umerasmez]

@alfred Ty for the response, i know that fireshield is not a passive and it's act using a shield. You are right that you need only 5%, tabs are not a big probl, fireshield max needs about 6800sp from what i know.
Ice stun is an abnormal status that's true but from what i know it will still stop you from casting a nuke, etc. .I consider that a slight advantage.
If what you say is 100% true and you are indeed immune to every abnormal status what so ever, than I see no advantage gained from ice except PvM and fire is the way to go.

One more q: can a full str fire archer outdamage with antidevil crit a pure int spear ?

[wildlag]

@wildlag From what you can spell correctly and becouse you are calling me a noob i gather that you are still a child. I hope you can understand one thing, there are no units, 20% means 20% of the freezing/frostbite time reduced. You are telling me that if you have a total of 100% from acc and fire shield the freezing (and by that i mean ice cube/stun) will no longer be possible. I will test this again. In the mean time try to use some manners when you are talking to someone ok?
I have talked with a lot of high lvls and ice resist is one thing but they all told me one thing: ice stun 5% probability, not quite immune to that.
Second thing you have to consider is that to make your acc 100% resist you have to spend a lot of gold and not all the players can realise that.

@EllisD and Eukanuba - correct. I didn't mean that, had another thing in my mind .

Well from what you have said is just your theory, and quite obvious that you are Not immue to abnormal status yet, otherwise you dont need to "consult" with high levels.

My char is lv 64. My accessories and fire shield add up more than 100% reduce, and Im IMMUE to Ice, fire, zombie and poison.
I dont need to use any universal pills to grind in cave where the mobs can burn, zombie and poison.

In PVP, ice nova gives 100% frostbile and 50% freeze BUT the skill NEVER EVER work on me while my fire shield is on.

Because Im IMMUE.

so what i suggest to you is: Get 100% immue on yourself first and see the truth, Dont just try to freeze some noobs who THINK they are immue.

[Da_Realest]

@alfred Ty for the response, i know that fireshield is not a passive and it's act using a shield. You are right that you need only 5%, tabs are not a big probl, fireshield max needs about 6800sp from what i know.
Ice stun is an abnormal status that's true but from what i know it will still stop you from casting a nuke, etc. .I consider that a slight advantage.
If what you say is 100% true and you are indeed immune to every abnormal status what so ever, than I see no advantage gained from ice except PvM and fire is the way to go.

One more q: can a full str fire archer outdamage with antidevil crit a pure int spear ?

Here is a video of ice immune. Just watch first 36 secs of it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jfowq0PklAg

My full str archer does the damage of a pure int spear when I critical.

[Eukanuba]

"Don't pvp unless you have phantom walk "

If you are in pvp, it is not time to run. When you run enemy heals herself and it will be endless potion war.

You're joking, right? If you play an archer and try to go toe-to-toe with a glaive or blader user of near equal level, you will most certainly die. Range is the archer's most precious advantage, and you should at all times make use of it.

70 str archer vrs 70 glaiver, you think the archer will die each time?

Barring any glaringly unbalancing equipment differences, if the archer stands in one spot and trades shots, yes, the archer will die.

[Burakumin]

im actually doing this for my lvl 16 sp farmer but i doubt i'd get a 80:80 since i wont be able to get full bonus from equips