Jobs levels and how they need to be restricted

[MrFudge]

well what i mean is its so stupid how you cant really thief or whatever til high 30's and even then its hard

why cant joymax change it so theres like a level range for people to attack others while in job suits???

i hate seeing a lvl 2 trade and being like YES FINALLY OMG

and then the lvl 70 hunter phantoms his way in from behind the tree and superpwns me with a meteor.

[DarkJackal]

Restiction = gayness.

Like passion said in another topic that talked about this, its only gonna help you and what you want.

Thats part of the motivation to lvl is being too weak to do most the stuff, you need to get stronger, you shouldn't be able to just do it, and when you get up there you can do it to some other lower lvl and the cycle of silkroad life continues! o.o.

Think about it, part of the benefit of being high lvl is to be able to be stronger and kill/rob/help or w/e to lower lvls.

[DarkJackal]

Well maybe, but is that really a good reason? you cant do something(or don't want to) so cheat?

The only thing to be blamed for botting is the ones choosing to do it.

[Loveis4ever]

and thats why people bot.


woohoo..

there are good and bad bots tho....

Okey, I was gonna say that bad people botting to become thieves are the reason for good people go botting and become hunters. That's what you call fairplay. And that thieves botter are aznholes and destroy the game.

And that's what it is, basically, but as always there are exceptions to every rule. Or it just depends on the point of view... it's okey to bot if you're gonna help other people that get terorized by bad people. I mean if you're a hunter helping others.. while at the same time IT IS OKEY to thief other BAD people.. like turks and sometimes some of stupid germans.

mh way too complicated anyway
in NO WAY this is triangular conflict, it's rather multangular one! Too many exceptions to so little rules.

[truez]

So Jackal.. from ur verdict.. it means.. trading is only for high lvls
But idk, is tat acceptable

OR

Keep botin until u hit lvl 70 for trading ... tatz bad..

[Xanovaria]

why cant joymax change it so theres like a level range for people to attack others while in job suits???

Nobody would buy golden tickets and grind.
There would be no Farking point.

[Loveis4ever]

why cant joymax change it so theres like a level range for people to attack others while in job suits???

Nobody would buy golden tickets and grind.
There would be no Farking point.

there would be no farking point ...to bot Xanovaria?

why does botter like u bother to go posting on forums azzhole?.. oooooh sorry, prolly u'r at work so u got nothing to do, while at home u running ur bot uh? now die, thx

[nightbloom]

You expect it to be easy to job? lol

[Jeronimo]

I'd appreciate a lvl-restriction. It took me 6 months to get to lvl ~45 and still then I got pwned by lvl 60 mutha-fukkas.

Sumhow took all the fun away. Adding 2 that it's hard 2 find a friendly high-lvl, who would help u trade.

P.S Man the SRO-community downright SUX !

[lingxiaoyu]

i think this is a good idea mrfudge.. so everyone can enjoy doing jobs.. get a chance to fight the players on the same level and test ur skills.. a big help to others who needs gold on lvling their character..

[Kass]

You expect it to be easy to job? lol

hell no
i think they expect it to be fun and are unhappy about getting beaten silly by a person 20+ levels higher then them. thus the cry for level restriction. nothing really crazy, say 10 levels or so based on certain circumstances that are to be determined by whatever rule jm sets in place.

an example for amusement

thieving = 70 cant pop a 20 trader, 70 can pop a 62 trader.
hunter = trader needs some around their level to help protect, so more hunters (+npc money = yey!)
trader = *shrug* stop whining, hire a hunter and go trade
wanted status = free for all

*note* i dinna say jack about mutli stars. you buy the *'s you wanna play with, you get the thieving love that comes with it.

[DarkJackal]

So Jackal.. from ur verdict.. it means.. trading is only for high lvls
But idk, is tat acceptable

OR

Keep botin until u hit lvl 70 for trading ... tatz bad..

Of course not, I expect it only to be easier for high lvls, I guess I didn't mention that even being lvl 80 you can still go do a trade run and get owned by thieves, the only difference from lvl 20 and lvl 80 is the chances are higher, and if you were lvl 45 and only ppl within maybe 5 or 10 lvls could atk you well, a group of thieves even your own lvl are just gonna own you anyway, "go on a group run" you might say, lol then just do THAT now instead >.>.

It is definatly exceptable don't forget there is a system which was meant to protect lower lvls and let them do trade runs, "1 star runs" the only problem is higher lvls kill you with mobs, and even a lvl restriction wouldn't help you there, you just have to wait for the job update thats gonna come.

[streetrobban]

I dont like the idea to make a restriction. Its a part of the game to be popped once in a while.

Just the other day I (lvl 42) went on a trade run with my horse (for more speed). Started at Jangan with the destination of Hotan. And when I cross the river just outside Jangan I see 4-5 thiefs (around lvl 50+) standing in their Harmony Therapy circle just waiting for noobs to come their way. Offcourse they start hunting me with their horses, but I made it back to Jangan just in time. So I tried a few diffrent routs to be able to avoid the thiefs. It took a while (I bumped in to them a few times), but after like one hour I finally made it to Hotan

Or just gather up with some 60+ hunters and go in a 5 star trade Its fun!

[LadyOphelia]

well what i mean is its so stupid how you cant really thief or whatever til high 30's and even then its hard

why cant joymax change it so theres like a level range for people to attack others while in job suits???

i hate seeing a lvl 2 trade and being like YES FINALLY OMG

and then the lvl 70 hunter phantoms his way in from behind the tree and superpwns me with a meteor.

LoL at that last part But IMO, there will always be someone stronger than you regardless if there's a level restriction or not. It does make it a bit more challenging to have a fair fight rather than just get totally pwned so I agree there should be some restriction involved.

[Corrupt]

It's actualy pretty fun the way it is. I mean if your union or guild goes for a nice big trade you need to send scouts and have people all communicating to be succesful. Take the longer routes, having to stop the caravan if your scout finds some high lvl thieves in the area and hope they don't find you .
I remember doing some 12 camel 4-5* runs when we were mostyl 30-50 and it was probably the most fun i've ever had in this game. Once a high lvl finds your group it becomes chaos >.> and some people still manage to make it.

And if they decide to put restriction then also would have to remove 1* immunity.

I'd like to see names removed while jobbing but that's just for pm spamming reasons. You get killed while jobbing well that's what happens when you put on a suit, no need to flame/spam/swear to the person only doing their part >.<

Someone mentioned on a diff post I believe....but also if they raised profits made then traders and hunters could make some decent cash for 25-40minute(average) trade run. But that's only cause prices are out of control now which makes a measly around 100k or so minus pots not realy even worth risking for trade.

/edit~ Yea but with that new system you can already see flaws in it assuming it's the hunter npc one. People will still get 1* popped just takes trader+thief working together.

[GuruSikh]

I think its fine the way it is, and besides its all going to change whenever the new trade system update comes out. If you don't like it and can't wait until update, just go play ksro.

New Trade System: http://forum.mmosite.com/topics/105/200 ... 430,1.html

[hellsharpt]

It would be really easy to exploit a system where high levels couldn't attack lows.

I can make a new level 20 in a few days (I have a few already though). I hook it up with a 5 star trace a high level (non carded to kill the npcs). No one can touch me. Even if someone around my level shows up I have friends/guild mates around that level.

Also what about loot stealing, or 'free' loot on the ground. How do you assign that?

I'm sorry but I think the system works fine. I've been popped trading, I've run successful multistars solo, hunted for large multistar trade runs. Jobbing of any kind is a risk, you shouldn't be able to succeed every time, but if you are smart, and have friends (teamwork wins!) you have a better chance of success.

[Jabo]

maybe a 15 lebvel restrict will be good

EDIT: wow the korean trading update rules

[zphantom]

It would be really easy to exploit a system where high levels couldn't attack lows.

I can make a new level 20 in a few days (I have a few already though). I hook it up with a 5 star trace a high level (non carded to kill the npcs). No one can touch me. Even if someone around my level shows up I have friends/guild mates around that level.

If level limits are imposed, a 2x thief can thief you without you (the high level hunter) being able to attack back.

[Ice771x]

lvl 3 in something should change from beginner to advanced or somethin. it takes a while to get to lvl 3 (especially as hunter) so it should at least change your title.

[PR0METHEUS]

Job level restrictions? bad idea. I like it the way it is now. Yeah it sucks if you're a lvl 25 getting owned by a lvl 70, but that's the way the game works. Jobbing isn't meant to be easy. You have to work hard at it, and be smart, to be successful in any of the 3 jobs. There are plenty of traders, of all levels, who do some successful trade runs. There are also thieves who can successfully rob traders without getting 1-hitted by a lvl 70+. I've been popped as a trader, and have also done successful trade runs.

As for thieving, it isn't so bad doing it around lvl 30. You just have to be smart about it. I see too many thieves that run around in their suit all over the land. They are just asking hunters to kill them. A thief needs to be smart and stealthy to be successful. When you see a multistar trader, don't just think "YAY FINALLY!!" and throw your suit on and start attacking. Look around first. Stake out the territory and see if there are any hunters, or witnesses, nearby. It's really not that hard.

It would be really easy to exploit a system where high levels couldn't attack lows.

I can make a new level 20 in a few days (I have a few already though). I hook it up with a 5 star trace a high level (non carded to kill the npcs). No one can touch me. Even if someone around my level shows up I have friends/guild mates around that level.

If level limits are imposed, a 2x thief can thief you without you (the high level hunter) being able to attack back.

Is it fair though to the hunter that those 2x thieves can come rob the trader and the hunter is powerless to do her job?

[Black_Mamba]

Every one of those 7x who pop noobs and bitch slap em with meteors was once low lvl too and they all got popped just like anyone, I remember being 42+ and thinking how I'd be able to finally job but nope lol even at 52 a 60 nuker 1 shotted me at the ferry. It's just part of the game, nobody was created at 7x straight away, we've all been crapped on by higher lvls at one point or another.

[shousuke]

they only need to change one thing to make jobbing fun:
-make it worthwhile for the hunters

[MamaSan]

What's the name of that lvl 4 thief on Xian again?
I keep forgetting her name...dang...

[zphantom]

Job level restrictions? bad idea. I like it the way it is now. Yeah it sucks if you're a lvl 25 getting owned by a lvl 70, but that's the way the game works. Jobbing isn't meant to be nearly impossible.

Corrected.

It would be really easy to exploit a system where high levels couldn't attack lows.

I can make a new level 20 in a few days (I have a few already though). I hook it up with a 5 star trace a high level (non carded to kill the npcs). No one can touch me. Even if someone around my level shows up I have friends/guild mates around that level.

If level limits are imposed, a 2x thief can thief you without you (the high level hunter) being able to attack back.

Is it fair though to the hunter that those 2x thieves can come rob the trader and the hunter is powerless to do her job?

That's the whole point of the thread, to provide a little protection for low levels so that they can ENJOY trading and jobbing without having level 80s wipe them out and not having to bot until level 80, fully pimped their gear, then finally job.

Every one of those 7x who pop noobs and bitch slap em with meteors was once low lvl too and they all got popped just like anyone, I remember being 42+ and thinking how I'd be able to finally job but nope lol even at 52 a 60 nuker 1 shotted me at the ferry. It's just part of the game, nobody was created at 7x straight away, we've all been crapped on by higher lvls at one point or another.

A little empathy? This is the same thinking of when a level 80 keeps on camping TG. "Pick on someone your own size." "An eye for an eye makes everyone blind." Don't return favors no one wants...

hey only need to change one thing to make jobbing fun:
-make it worthwhile for the hunters

More profit = more trades, more hunters, more thieves = more fun

[zonas_jaf]

Job level restrictions? bad idea. I like it the way it is now. Yeah it sucks if you're a lvl 25 getting owned by a lvl 70, but that's the way the game works. Jobbing isn't meant to be nearly impossible.

Corrected.

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exactly

id like to see you take your 2 star that wont make enough to pay for hunters past the level 70 theif at the ferry, alot of times there are ones at each ferry.

at low levels you cant afford to do many failed trade runs before you go broke.

which of course some level 70 will respond with........

the point of the game isnt to have fun, its to grind until you can have fun.

[DarkJackal]

What's the name of that lvl 4 thief on Xian again?
I keep forgetting her name...dang...

Impulse?

[MamaSan]

What's the name of that lvl 4 thief on Xian again?
I keep forgetting her name...dang...

Impulse?

lol yah...it was her!!!! TY

[PR0METHEUS]

Job level restrictions? bad idea. I like it the way it is now. Yeah it sucks if you're a lvl 25 getting owned by a lvl 70, but that's the way the game works. Jobbing isn't meant to be nearly impossible.

Corrected.

Jobbing is not "nearly impossible" you just have to be smart at it. You can't expect to take your trade run down the main road back and forth between Donwhang and Jangan all day and expect to succeed most of the time. Take alternate routes, use scouts, the list goes on.

Similarly, you can't expect to run around in your thief suit at lvl 20-30 looking for trade runs and not have a hunter spot you. Keep it off and don't use it until you're ready to attack. Know what you're getting yourself into.

Is it fair though to the hunter that those 2x thieves can come rob the trader and the hunter is powerless to do her job?

That's the whole point of the thread, to provide a little protection for low levels so that they can ENJOY trading and jobbing without having level 80s wipe them out and not having to bot until level 80, fully pimped their gear, then finally job.

I've made plenty of enjoyable trade runs below lvl 25. Don't let the lvl 80 see you. Proper planning helps a lot.

[DarkJackal]

What's the name of that lvl 4 thief on Xian again?
I keep forgetting her name...dang...

Impulse?

lol yah...it was her!!!! TY

Yw ;p, does Impulse still play even? lol