Satisfaction in the caves for once...

[lynxz]

Grinding in 1 spot for 5 hours can make someone a bit pissed off when an archer comes to your spot and begins ks'in you nonstop So what did I do? politely asked him to move.. his reply? "YOU DONT OWN THIS SPOT"... so I say.. 'I've been grinding here for a LONG time, man." His reply .. "hahah".. and then I go "you better leave my spot or I will murder you.. and guess what? I did



Most satisfying kill yet, to date..

Yeah, I'm sure lots of you all have murdered ppl in the caves, I've killed 2 other nukers but not quite for this reason. This guy blatantly came ot my spot on purpose to ks me and act like he's superior.. my lord did that murder feel good

*edit* i just noticed where i said "better leave this spot or i'll get murdered.. lolol, i meant you better leave or you'll get murdered*

[Stallowned]

The other day I was about to murder some bitch in the nachal room... I really wish I had done it, I could of pulled it off easily in an empty nachal room, no one else even came in for a few hours. I could of grinded it off in under an hour...

[lynxz]

The other day I was about to murder some bitch in the nachal room... I really wish I had done it, I could of pulled it off easily in an empty nachal room, no one else even came in for a few hours. I could of grinded it off in under an hour...

It feels so good to murder ppl, ah.. I wish they had some lovely daily pk you could use on **** like that without having repercussions...

[Lance]

so what happened next? she come back and zerk u?

[Stallowned]

The other day I was about to murder some bitch in the nachal room... I really wish I had done it, I could of pulled it off easily in an empty nachal room, no one else even came in for a few hours. I could of grinded it off in under an hour...

It feels so good to murder ppl, ah.. I wish they had some lovely daily pk you could use on **** like that without having repercussions...

Murdering is kind of pointless though.
They really need to change it so there is a bigger loss for the murdered. Now unless you're very lucky, the only one getting hurt when you murder someone is yourself.
Also if you actually had a bigger loss for getting murdered, I'm sure half as many people wouldn't be the assholes they are now when there's a good chance they might get wtfpwnt when they're not watching

[lynxz]

so what happened next? she come back and zerk u?

He laid dead on the floor cursing at me and calling me a noob.. I got scared someone would come in the room so I took clothes off and attempted to run out of the caves, as I have done other times.. this time a stupid ass lv 70 decides to zerk me and chase me..

I'm not gonna fill out stereotyping here.. but yes he's foreign.. and no I don't think he understands you dont get much from killing a murderer

@Stallowned, I agree... They should cause worse things to happen to those idiots who constantly KS ppl and shit like that.. STRs are hard to train, okay? I mean especially FARMING with a 5 gap now.. it's killinnnng me.. then this asshole comes in and jumps in my spot thinking hes some tough shit

[Fat_Smurf]

He laid dead on the floor cursing at me and calling me a noob.. I got scared someone would come in the room so I took clothes off and attempted to run out of the caves, as I have done other times.. this time a stupid ass lv 70 decides to zerk me and chase me..

I'm not gonna fill out stereotyping here.. but yes he's foreign.. and no I don't think he understands you dont get much from killing a murderer

yo mama ****


I don't get what really happen when u turn murder... when u die oyu lost more xp than npc death? when you grind you loose xp too?

[lynxz]

He laid dead on the floor cursing at me and calling me a noob.. I got scared someone would come in the room so I took clothes off and attempted to run out of the caves, as I have done other times.. this time a stupid ass lv 70 decides to zerk me and chase me..

I'm not gonna fill out stereotyping here.. but yes he's foreign.. and no I don't think he understands you dont get much from killing a murderer

yo mama ****


I don't get what really happen when u turn murder... when u die oyu lost more xp than npc death? when you grind you loose xp too?

I don't really understand you

[jabbers]

yah i murdered spiritpower once in the yacha room, than grinded it off in the same room while she continued to bot

[alwinp]

losing 12% is not worth it.
Maybe he flamed you, but most people try to make you murderer on purpose.

if your lucky and where able to grind it away, good.

Else losing 12% to get rid for a ks'er who gets back in 5 minutes isen't worth it

[Thrilla]

Screw losing exp, last time I murdered someone, I just used four 100% res scrolls to get it all back while dying it off. When I died to a player, I gained 1/2 exp back, but death to a mob gave me 100% back.

At 73 with a 4 gap, losing 12% would be a few days lost.

[lynxz]

Screw losing exp, last time I murdered someone, I just used four 100% res scrolls to get it all back while dying it off. When I died to a player, I gained 1/2 exp back, but death to a mob gave me 100% back.

At 73 with a 4 gap, losing 12% would be a few days lost.

Why do you guys keep saying 12%??? I only lost 2% and 100 sp.. not really a major loss IMO

[hellsharpt]

I've begged people to murder me. I let them know that I have res scrolls and will be returning the favor. Murderers lose alot more than the murdered. I just want their gear .

[Zero_Doom]

I've begged people to murder me. I let them know that I have res scrolls and will be returning the favor. Murderers lose alot more than the murdered. I just want their gear .

Same thing for me, though I can't really go into the cave yet xD

Still.. I think it is funny that people get so upset that they have to share areas in a multiplayer game. Seriously, if you want your own spot, play a single player game so you don't have to worry about sharing. ^_^

[lynxz]

I've begged people to murder me. I let them know that I have res scrolls and will be returning the favor. Murderers lose alot more than the murdered. I just want their gear .

Same thing for me, though I can't really go into the cave yet xD

Still.. I think it is funny that people get so upset that they have to share areas in a multiplayer game. Seriously, if you want your own spot, play a single player game so you don't have to worry about sharing. ^_^

listen.. theres a difference between "SHARING AREA" and being blatantly ks'd.. learn the difference... when someone sits in your spot where you've been grinding for 5 hours and starts ks'in you nonstop.. that's NOT sharing the area, that's stealing someone's kills and being a jerk.. it does nothing but piss people off and get you murdered.. for ther person above who likes to ks people, you are the one who ruins this game.. ks'ers should be banned

[Zero_Doom]

I've begged people to murder me. I let them know that I have res scrolls and will be returning the favor. Murderers lose alot more than the murdered. I just want their gear .

Same thing for me, though I can't really go into the cave yet xD

Still.. I think it is funny that people get so upset that they have to share areas in a multiplayer game. Seriously, if you want your own spot, play a single player game so you don't have to worry about sharing. ^_^

listen.. theres a difference between "SHARING AREA" and being blatantly ks'd.. learn the difference... when someone sits in your spot where you've been grinding for 5 hours and starts ks'in you nonstop.. that's NOT sharing the area, that's stealing someone's kills and being a jerk.. it does nothing but piss people off and get you murdered.. for ther person above who likes to ks people, you are the one who ruins this game.. ks'ers should be banned

Lol dude, the ksers are right. No one that plays the game actually owns any spots. There isn't a name on the spot your grinding intitling it as yours. Besides that, what if that is his spot when your offline? Then technically your moving in on his area and you sir could be the kser. Ever think of that?

[Master0Chief]

I think we need a Clearification on word KS'ing.
I am not gonna provide it as I understand, however, I suggest original poster provide it for the benefit of Zero_Doom.

KS'er : (as I understand) A player who delebrately keeps on killing monsters you are killing. As in you attack monster 'A1', that person attacks monster 'A' as well. However he has choice to attack monster 'A2', 'A3' or 'A4'.

[Black_Mamba]

Murdering is kind of pointless though.

Yeah totally, you only murder when you lose your temper, I've never had murder status. It is definately pointless though especially if they have a res scroll, you may as well just give them an item of your clothing if your gonna murder someone lol

I got murdered twice and both times I res scrolled and 1 shotted them and they both dropped some gear

[voltis5]

first time i became a murderer was last week. lost about 7-8% in exp and 100 sp .....good thing i was farming atm still it sucks

[zphantom]

Murdering is kind of pointless though.

Yeah totally, you only murder when you lose your temper

Agreed...there's no way to survive either especially with zerk doubling damage

The murder status needs to be toned down to make it a worthwhile and possibly effective bot killing. 6 deaths is too much, 1200 monsters is way too long. I don't even know why every MMORPG has the same pk murder policies with they're practically useless?

[Zero_Doom]

I think we need a Clearification on word KS'ing.
I am not gonna provide it as I understand, however, I suggest original poster provide it for the benefit of Zero_Doom.

KS'er : (as I understand) A player who delebrately keeps on killing monsters you are killing. As in you attack monster 'A1', that person attacks monster 'A' as well. However he has choice to attack monster 'A2', 'A3' or 'A4'.

Dude I have been playing games since before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye. I know what ks means, all I am saying is that there is no spot that you can own in a game that is completely multiplayer. People that play this game complain so much about other people stealing their kills in a crampt area (ie. the cave) and don't realize that they can't really expect someone to back down and stop grinding just cause some other person says to.

Say you got dced, and couldn't log in for 10 min. Someone happens to log in during that 10 min and starts grinding in that spot. Then you log back in, and see whats going on, and get angry. Wouldn't it be fair under your ways of thinking that he keeps the spot and you have to leave? Or, would you just ks him until he left?

The fact that you would get so angry and murder someone is your own problem. I think it is funny because as much as you complain about him ksing you, murdering him and possibly losing 10% exp is deffinately worse. Cause think about it. You still get about half the exp off the kill with his help, where as if you murder and get killed, you go backwards. Kinda pointless right?

[takolin]

Let's see what [GM]Dave have too say about Ks'ing.

Multiplayer Means More Than You

Ahem.

This is a public service announcement. Please pay very close attention.

FFXI is an MMORPG. Do you know what MMORPG stands for?

Why are you actually answering me? You're reading this on a computer screen and I can't possibly hear you.

Some people.

Anyway, MMORPG stand for Massively Multiplayer Online RolePlaying Game.

Now, I want everyone to look very closely at the second word there.

Multiplayer.

As basic an idea as this is, you'd be surprised how many people do not understand this concept.

The difficult part to understand seems to be that not everyone is trying to help you with your game. Some of them (read: most of them) actually want to do much better than you and may (read: will) step on you to get ahead.

Yes, yes. I know, I know. When you play on your Playstation by yourself all the other characters help you.

Well... Except that bitch Yuffie. That shit was just wrong.

Now, you step into this big online world and nobody wants to help you. Hell, half of them are probably getting in your way.

This is normal.

This is not an emergency.

This is certainly not a good reason to make a GM call.

Those other people don't have to help you out. They don't. It doesn't matter if what they're doing makes your life harder, as long as they don't kill you, it's fine.

But still, everyday I get the most assinine calls from people who try to report someone for ruining a quest or taking an item or something equally stupid.

Not an emergency.

Let me give you an example. There's a monster in the game called Overgrown Rose. This monster drops a very nice ring called Vilma's Ring. Unfortunately, the drop rate is not very good.

This is bad.

If this monster is left alone for a long enough time, it will change into a different monster called Rose Garden. This monster also drops the Vilma's Ring, but the drop rate is 100%.

This is good.

Sadly, it can take several hours for this change to occur and your chances of no one else touching Overgrown Rose in that time are practically zero.

This is bad.

So, each day, I get at least one call from some idiot who wants the Vilma's Ring, but people keep killing his Overgrown Rose before it can change.

This is very bad.

This person then feels it is somehow my problem and that the other person should be banned.

This is retarded.

Just this afternoon, I was in the middle of an amazing crafting session when I got the daily call.

GM Call Description: Other player stole my Overgrown Rose. Help.

It seems Fate decided to step in at this exact second.

Critical crafting failure. All materials lost. Millions down the drain.

[GM]Dave needed to release some tension.

*cue ominous music*

[GM]Dave>> Hail, Adventurer.
[GM]Dave>> Apparently, you're having trouble with a flower.
[GM]Dave>> That's no reason to feel less like a man.
Player>> I don't feel less like a man.
[GM]Dave>> Really?
[GM]Dave>> Not at all?
[GM]Dave>> Cause that is pretty pathetic.
Player>> I'm trying to get him to change into Rose Garden.
Player>> But people keep killing him.
[GM]Dave>> Uh huh. Let me write this down.
[GM]Dave>> People are killing a monster.
[GM]Dave>> In an RPG.
[GM]Dave>> An RPG where you kill monsters.
[GM]Dave>> Those bastards.
Player>> This is serious.
Player>> I asked them not to kill him, but they don't listen.
Player>> They're basically stealing.
[GM]Dave>> Why did you say "basically" there?
Player>> What do you mean?
[GM]Dave>> The word "basically".
[GM]Dave>> Why did you have to say it?
Player>> Well... Because they're not really stealing.
[GM]Dave>> Exactly.
[GM]Dave>> And if they didn't steal it, this is not an...
Player>> Emergency?
[GM]Dave>> Two for two.
[GM]Dave>> I'm starting to think you're not a complete idiot.
Player>> But it's wrong for them to take it.
Player>> It was my Rose.
[GM]Dave>> Spoke too soon.
[GM]Dave>> It's not your Rose.
[GM]Dave>> Not.
[GM]Dave>> And you can't expect people to leave it alone.
[GM]Dave>> No matter how many times you say pretty please.
Player>> This is bullshit!
Player>> You need to do something!
[GM]Dave>> I'm way ahead of you.

*warp*

Player>> I meant do something to them.
[GM]Dave>> This will be a lesson on being more clear when you speak.
Player>> You can't suspend me for this.
Player>> I'll sue.
[GM]Dave>> Oh, I'm not going to suspend you.
[GM]Dave>> I'm not even going to ban you.
Player>> Really?
Player>> Then what am I doing here?
[GM]Dave>> We're going to play a little game.
[GM]Dave>> Are you ready?
Player>> Ready.

This is when I spawned monsters into Mordion Gaol. Hundreds of them, all surrounding him.

Did I spawn a bunch of angry dragons?

No.

Maybe some ferocious HNMs?

Nope.

Instead, I spawned every low level NM in the game. Leaping Lizzy, Jaggedy-Eared Jack, Argus, Mee Deggi, Hoo Mjuu.

They were all there.

Millions upon millions upon millions worth of items standing right in front of him.

Player>> HOLY SHIT!!!
[GM]Dave>> Are you ready to hear the rules?
Player>> Sure!
[GM]Dave>> You have to stay in here for 24 hours straight.
[GM]Dave>> No logging out.
[GM]Dave>> And no going AFK. I'll be checking.
Player>> I can do that. Easy.
Player>> It'll take me that long to kill them all.
[GM]Dave>> That brings us to rule number two.
[GM]Dave>> Please don't kill any of them.
Player>> ...
Player>> What?
[GM]Dave>> If you touch even one of them, you get banned.
[GM]Dave>> That includes magic, attacks, anything.
[GM]Dave>> Banned.
Player>> ...
Player>> Are you kidding?
Player>> I can't kill any of them?
[GM]Dave>> Nope.
[GM]Dave>> I asked you not to, remember?
Player>> This is cruel.
[GM]Dave>> I know.

Can you imagine being surrounded by some of the most sought after NMs in the game...

And not being allowed to touch them?

I'm pretty sure he went insane after about fifteen minutes.

Still, I did ask him nicely.

Different game, same topic.

[Zero_Doom]

I like that GM, I only wish that there were some like that on SRO...

[[SD]Twysta]

Screw losing exp, last time I murdered someone, I just used four 100% res scrolls to get it all back while dying it off. When I died to a player, I gained 1/2 exp back, but death to a mob gave me 100% back.

At 73 with a 4 gap, losing 12% would be a few days lost.

Why do you guys keep saying 12%??? I only lost 2% and 100 sp.. not really a major loss IMO

Then you either got rid of about 5/6 by fighting mobs and getting rid of the PK points. Or u used ress scrolls and died once or twice.

Think of it, it's logical, if you'd lose 2% off a murder at lvl 60+ i would murder every1 with one bad word against me.

[Vandango]

I like that GM, I only wish that there were some like that on SRO...

why does GM dave remind me of my programming teacher??
yea it would rock to have a GM like that