Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:48 pm

@taintofsleep i told you i will see the different on the lvl 20+ or 30+ its amazing... you are dam strong and still have a lot of hp to tank more than 2 mobs =P

@kasiko lol 2 hours ? wow thats nice that u spend a lot of time for reading this guide

btw np i just want to help the bower here and want to suggeste this build !

@chrisssj2 lol omg you have to much time

respect

@umerasmez you have right with the 5000 hp thing but the fact is full str archer are based on crit so they hope to get a lot of crit to win ...but this bow build have already a high avarage damage which can kill their enemy withouth always critting on them BUT if it crit it isnt weak
thats what i want to show you and it already showed that you dont need to have lots of hp to win because a full int nuker with a suki HP can still win against a full str glavier he need only to be smart and use his skills clever nothing else
so this build build has much hp but also a very nice avarage damage so he can kill fast withouth basing on crit..and he has lots of hp to survive the crit hits
BUT i said already you need to be smart in using your skills
np i shared all my exp. on bow to help nothing else

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:10 am

Jadekiss wrote:@taintofsleep i told you i will see the different on the lvl 20+ or 30+ its amazing... you are dam strong and still have a lot of hp to tank more than 2 mobs =P

Of course... my lvl 43 pure int spear with mostly npc equips (well, besides the spear) and some 1st tier lvl 5 protector can easily tank 3 bunwangs...

Alfred · Post by **Alfred** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:48 am

IguanaRampage wrote:
Jadekiss wrote:@taintofsleep i told you i will see the different on the lvl 20+ or 30+ its amazing... you are dam strong and still have a lot of hp to tank more than 2 mobs =P

Of course... my lvl 43 pure int spear with mostly npc equips (well, besides the spear) and some 1st tier lvl 5 protector can easily tank 3 bunwangs...

I couldn't do that with my int hyb at that lvl

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:03 pm

hmm alfred maybe you use the wrong equipment ? or maybe IguanaRampage has ice skill buff for defens ?
there are a lot of possibility

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:39 pm

Ohyeah....1 thing.....is this build suitable for all the 3 wep types(Heuksal,Pacheon,Bicheon) or only for the bow(pacheon)

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:59 pm

@UnDutchable this build i think will work also with a spear user but i prefer bow !

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:45 pm

I seriously doubt this build.

I am a bow user, never went higher then 42. So my experience isnt that much. But I like to pvp and the thing that saves me allready now, is my high amount of HP against other builds.

About the damage thing, I do good damage being a pure str. Plus it isnt hoping for a crit, I know I'm gonna crit in a pvp fight. Also with bow it also comes down to what attacks + wich imbue you use on what time. I beat almost all bow users my lvl cause they are just hitting there buttons.

But well everybody his/her favo thing.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:36 pm

@HertogJan... i already said that it is up to everyone !
if you like playing your char then keep on playing it and go on but if u agree with me that bow isnt really a full str weapon then try this guide out and you will see !
BUT you dont have to if you dont want this guide is definitiv just a help for the others

so happy grinding

phresh · Post by **phresh** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:49 pm

Just feel I should tell my experience..

I leveled a 70/70 bowman to 46. It was pretty nice for grinding but I got dropped in a 1v1 pvp by any decent build within 5 levels of me. It was depressing.

IMO this build might be ok if you SP Farm 150k and have all the passives and buffs. Plus all the best gear that gold can buy.. then you might do ok 1v1. However, it's gonna suck when you reach 70 and have already capped your 300 masteries.

Anyhow, I rerolled and my pure STR archer is lvl50 now.. soooo much better. I'm yet to be killed by anyone within 3 or 4 levels of me. I've been pwning lvl52-54 nukers since I was lvl46 with the pure str = ownage.

And with a nice weapon, it's not a matter of _if_ you crit.. it's just a matter of time _until_ you crit and they die.

Bladers are a total stalemate though.. everyone else dies.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:52 pm

@phresh ... thx for your statement BUT i already said that this build need a lot of work and also a lt of money later and SP FARMING is a MUST
so i think if ppl readt hat carefully enough they already know that now =) but anyway thx

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:02 pm

any other experiences in pvp? I have heard the good the bad, but not the ugly yet.

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:43 am

Every build has its ugly it's only a matter of time

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:45 am

Btw: there will be always some1 who is better than you because today the CCF'ler ..... up the game its not more based on your skills or how you build your char.... its based ony cash now

but nvm

glavie · Post by **glavie** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:18 pm

phresh wrote:Just feel I should tell my experience..

I leveled a 70/70 bowman to 46. It was pretty nice for grinding but I got dropped in a 1v1 pvp by any decent build within 5 levels of me. It was depressing.

Anyhow, I rerolled and my pure STR archer is lvl50 now.. soooo much better. I'm yet to be killed by anyone within 3 or 4 levels of me. I've been pwning lvl52-54 nukers since I was lvl46 with the pure str = ownage.

And with a nice weapon, it's not a matter of _if_ you crit.. it's just a matter of time _until_ you crit and they die.

PHRESH
Can you give us more detail on both of your bow builds?

Did they have the similar mastry to lvl gaps?
Were they using the same or similar bows?
Were they wearing the same protector? (armor/garment/sos etc.)
Were they using the same skills in the physical and force trees?
Please give us as much detail as you can.

Dempster · Post by **Dempster** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:20 pm

phresh wrote:Just feel I should tell my experience..

I leveled a 70/70 bowman to 46. It was pretty nice for grinding but I got dropped in a 1v1 pvp by any decent build within 5 levels of me. It was depressing.

Anyhow, I rerolled and my pure STR archer is lvl50 now.. soooo much better. I'm yet to be killed by anyone within 3 or 4 levels of me. I've been pwning lvl52-54 nukers since I was lvl46 with the pure str = ownage.

And with a nice weapon, it's not a matter of _if_ you crit.. it's just a matter of time _until_ you crit and they die.

Heh, its always fun to run into hybrid bows and drop them like they're lvl20

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:05 pm

Dempster wrote:
phresh wrote:Just feel I should tell my experience..

I leveled a 70/70 bowman to 46. It was pretty nice for grinding but I got dropped in a 1v1 pvp by any decent build within 5 levels of me. It was depressing.

Anyhow, I rerolled and my pure STR archer is lvl50 now.. soooo much better. I'm yet to be killed by anyone within 3 or 4 levels of me. I've been pwning lvl52-54 nukers since I was lvl46 with the pure str = ownage.

And with a nice weapon, it's not a matter of _if_ you crit.. it's just a matter of time _until_ you crit and they die.

Heh, its always fun to run into hybrid bows and drop them like they're lvl20

Don't forget str hybrid glaivers.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:28 am

yeah... full str are the best right ? and hybrid sux huh ?...
how n**bish !
but ok its your opinion till some1 shoe you that a hybrid CAN own

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:57 am

Jadekiss wrote:yeah... full str are the best right ? and hybrid sux huh ?...
how n**bish !
but ok its your opinion till some1 shoe you that a hybrid CAN own

I'll be waiting.

Insane_Panda · Post by **Insane_Panda** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:10 am

some hybrids are pretty sick, but i got a lvl 45 pure str glavier, and well ive run into some hybrid bows, which were extremely easy to kill.. they had more life then a nuker, but the had less then pure str, so im guessing they were close to ur 70 70 build.

u heard this a millions times im sure, but bows get most of their damage from crits. Bows have almost no chance in pvp if they didnt have crit. plus glavies have life passive, bladers have sheild and br passive, bow i dont kno wut that passive does (i forgot), but it doesnt help with living much longer im sure.

their dps would be (im guessing) about the same as a pure str, except they would die a lot faster. i could be wrong, and u may be right, but lets face it, many people have tried and failed on the bow hybrid idea. 70 70 isnt a new idea, so dont feel too special

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:10 pm

Thing is, I havent heard a single storie about a high lvl hybrid bow that is succesfull in pvp. They might rank up faster, but from what I hear till now is they all drop like flies in pvp.

I might be wrong, but I think you can only start saying that hybrid bows rock if they can kick more ass then str bows on higher lvls. Then i'm talking about 50+ or so

apache-1h · Post by **apache-1h** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:41 am

it is a very nice topic you made and interessting =)
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Its really provocate me, all that faqs, who not give it an chance and write all that shit to you. I know the build is really great, so its shit - people not give it a chance, but see it in this way - They don't no what they have missed =) and then you can't stop laughing. Not get mad, but smile of dummies =)

Would like to write to you over msn a day.

Zax0@hotmail.com - my msn, if its possible =)

CrazyAztec · Post by **CrazyAztec** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:10 pm

lol..too much to read!! i dont get it..

but btw, 70:70 pwnd int archer

im int so i dont care that much while pvp..just wanna have some fun killing ugly monster and pvp with nukers.

int archers Vs nuker?!

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:20 pm

@apach-1h thx =) hmm sure i will add you just be on on the right time

@CrazyAztec hehe yeah... so many posts here
yeah every1 should play his char if he/shel ikes it

umerasmez · Post by **umerasmez** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:13 pm

As i said before, JadeKiss ty for the topic, ty all for the debate.

I studied this build, i was very intrested in it and i came to a conclusion.
This build against a full str archer will have no chance, i don't care about your "buddy" wind, i think he pvp'ed only with noob bows. I play on xian and in lots of pvps with hybrid archers, when i crit they go down - no doubt about that.when they hit, when they crit is still stay on my toes

). I'm a 59 full str ice bow, i have about 9000hp,i wear garm(pretty shitty-only 15bonus points of str) and hibrids stand no chance. To tell you why:
beeing full str i can tank the phys dmg, wearing garm i'm also stoping their mag damage - like i said when i crit they go down.

Let's not talk about this hibrid against full str glavies. rofl-they will sweep the sand with them

or full str bladers- kd and "sting" 3 times = 100% dead hibrid.

Hybrid ? no way. Full str with lots of hp to tank and high crits OR pure int with 2hits=kill.
The only hibrid in this game that has a chance is a hybrid heuksal with spear and armor/protector.

Ty again Jadekiss for sharing this build, if you know any 60lvl hibrid archer on xian tell me and i will pvp him just for the fun, i want to see if they will lower my hp under 4000, hmmm mby 3500

). Gl 2 all

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:31 pm

@umerasmez np =)
and no i dont know any1 on xian sry i dont play on that server

so i cant help you out =)

chrisssj2 · Post by **chrisssj2** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:44 am

Someone in my server says he pwns all full str, with a hybris spear nuker, 64 phy balance 85% mag balance he has now, No fully int bonus on his equipment. ( he is lv 69)

But i doubt that somehow.

What about a 70 70 balance( 80 80 with items) hybrid with shield and sword? Or a 70 100(or was it 90?? plz someone clarify) balance with items .

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:18 am

chrisssj2 wrote:Someone in my server says he pwns all full str, with a hybris spear nuker, 64 phy balance 85% mag balance he has now, No fully int bonus on his equipment. ( he is lv 69)

But i doubt that somehow.

What about a 70 70 balance( 80 80 with items) hybrid with shield and sword? Or a 70 100(or was it 90?? plz someone clarify) balance with items .

omg i have 65 physical 86 magical!

i wanna pwn too hehe. cant wait to get to high level. 30 right now at 94%

umerasmez · Post by **umerasmez** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:31 am

@chrisssj2
yesterday i pvped a 63:85 shield/sword hybrid lvl 59.
I,m lvl 59 with 103:39. The final result was 8-0. I pwned his ass to the ground, he had no chance. he nuked me with 3kdmg, he stabbed me with 1200. Autopot at 70% with medium pots, i stood still, chating with him he lowered my hp to 2k

).My prim imbue is ice, i also used fire and lightning book1 lvl 1, still pwned him

).
He had about 3.7-3.8khp and i crit with 3800-4000 => 8-0

Hybrid u say? I say no ff way.
Forgot to say one thing, my bow is shittt 56+4 crit 6 +0%phys. I'm waiting for 60 now to see 60+5 crit10 +60%phys +80%mag.
Good luck.

sloth24 · Post by **sloth24** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:06 pm

70:70 will be a late bloomer build.
i think.

metroAID · Post by **metroAID** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:15 am

who said hybrid sux?? meet my 90/55 STR type glaiver. and lets see. u can have the extra HP (from being pure) and meet my extra DAMAGE. BTW i only use +3 weap. :twisted:

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