Another New Idea

Montolio · Post by **Montolio** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:15 pm

What do you think? These scrolls could max your zerk bar instantly and I think they would be a cool idea for the item mall. These would be especially useful for thieves I think. Just an idea.

Im_On_56k · Post by **Im_On_56k** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:17 pm

Worst idea ever it would ruin ALL pvp.

Kenjura · Post by **Kenjura** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:19 pm

Yeah, and all the rich ppl would be running around ksing or atleast killing all the monsters so us normal ppl have nothing to attack.

Ziggy · Post by **Ziggy** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:20 pm

Just like the auto pot and the increased defence/attack and every other god forsaken scroll in the mall?

Stallowned · Post by **Stallowned** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:21 pm

Seems interesting. If they are cheap everyone would buy them and spam them and it would be ridiculous. If they were too expensive, no one would buy them for something that lasts 30-60 seconds. Maybe a scroll to increase the speed with which you gain zerk balls (lol). Or one that increases the time that zerk alsts, or one that makes your zerk hit harder or run faster or whatever.

I just don't want to see some rich bum or spoiled kid running around constantly zerked ksing and killing everything in one or two hits (for some reason 99% of poeple seem to think ksing is 100% okw hen you're zerked.)

envee · Post by **envee** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:24 pm

bad idea. all the rich people would get all the Unique Monster kills. if you could zerk after every wave u are sure to get any unique monster kill. if you have enough for tons of zerk scrolls most likely you will also have tons of res scrolls. this would ruin the Unique Monster system and other people who dont buy item mall items chances ^^

Montolio · Post by **Montolio** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:27 pm

Worst idea ever

A simple "no" would have worked instead of insulting me, thanks.

If there were a cooldown time it wouldn't be as bad maybe?

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:34 am

i think it would be a cool idea, but it would HAVE to have a cooldown time. i know it would be useful for lots of things.

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:35 am

Criticizing your idea, no matter how harshly, is not the same as insulting you. And it is a pretty terrible idea.

Montolio · Post by **Montolio** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 2:19 am

Seems like it being a terrible idea is a matter of opinion, actually.

When someone says that one of my ideas is the "worst ever" it is a bit insulting to me.

Anyways, I was hoping people would elaborate and perhaps make suggestions on this idea because I thought it would be cool. Seems like usually most people have solid, constructive input, rather than saying that the idea is stupid or terrible. You don't have to be harsh, it's not like I am a GM for the game or anything. Just throwing things out there.

Stallowned · Post by **Stallowned** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:30 am

Montolio wrote:Seems like it being a terrible idea is a matter of opinion, actually.

When someone says that one of my ideas is the "worst ever" it is a bit insulting to me.

Anyways, I was hoping people would elaborate and perhaps make suggestions on this idea because I thought it would be cool. Seems like usually most people have solid, constructive input, rather than saying that the idea is stupid or terrible. You don't have to be harsh, it's not like I am a GM for the game or anything. Just throwing things out there.

Seems no one noticed my post

Montolio · Post by **Montolio** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:09 am

I saw your post, Stallowned, and thanks for the constructive criticism.

1llu51on · Post by **1llu51on** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:14 am

Sorry to say this, but it's not a good idea IMO.

Think about when somebody PKed a player and use this berserk scroll to run away from being chased. He'll be gone in a blink of an eye.
And nobody would ever try to be thief or hunter again, since their opposite jobs can easily berserk and kill them instantly, this item serves no purpose.

And the worst, all unique bosses will get owned so easily, maybe even lv 3x players can pwn Ureuchi, lol.

This item will only drop the game quality.

aloron · Post by **aloron** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:07 pm

Maybe not, but their should be a quest like the cursed heart quest for a bezerk potion, should be like Collect 25 XXXXXXXX and get a Bezerk Potion. They XXXXXXXX should drop one in like 400 mobs.

AyaChan · Post by **AyaChan** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:19 pm

I actually like how 'Zerk is a pure-random-chance skill in this game. I would hate for it to become a "Hey, I have money, so I can have a nice advantage over those who don't!"

I've even had mini-contests with friends to see who can get their 'Zerk on first.

Jeronimo · Post by **Jeronimo** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:12 pm

Dammit I voted on no but now I notice that I don't really know :oops:

:-\
Oh well my first thought was : "U collect zerk anyway...why buy it ?"... But it could be helpfull at times when ur zerk is not full, but I don't encounter those situations often...
:arrow:

dunno..why not ?

Sir_Nicolas · Post by **Sir_Nicolas** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:27 am

NobleHunter · Post by **NobleHunter** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:35 am

An angry moron with lots of berzerk scrolls...... lol, it sounds like a really bad idea. Maybe with a 30/60 minutes cooldown we can avoid stupid incidents at PvP or uniques hunting.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:37 am

Berserk scrolls is bad unless they have some kind of requirement or exchange. like 50% health or somethin

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:37 am

10-20 min cooldown, or 30 second zerk time

NobleHunter · Post by **NobleHunter** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:43 am

TOloseGT wrote:10-20 min cooldown, or 30 second zerk time

i think a 30/60 minutes cooldown is the best limitation for this kind of scroll. 30 seconds zerk time its a prtty bad limitation, with zerk you just need 5 seconds to kill someone. 2 or 3 if you are rogue/wiz.

Snoopy · Post by **Snoopy** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:56 am

z0mg

, why would you bump this, it's OVER 2 years old:!

salmissra · Post by **salmissra** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:10 am

yes why would someone bump it lol. i think it'll be ok...especially zerking during hunting or trading lol. but then again there is that zerk quest we can get now. so maybe no.

Midori · Post by **Midori** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:15 am

do people even go to the lengths to find these topics?

Starrie · Post by **Starrie** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:55 pm

Dammit. Selected Yes when my mouse jumped. God thats why i hate those optical mouses.

Anyway, NO. Rich people will own. It'll ruin PVP, Jobs, fair unique hunting.

ericxdeath · Post by **ericxdeath** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:19 pm

NobleHunter wrote:
TOloseGT wrote:10-20 min cooldown, or 30 second zerk time

i think a 30/60 minutes cooldown is the best limitation for this kind of scroll. 30 seconds zerk time its a prtty bad limitation, with zerk you just need 5 seconds to kill someone. 2 or 3 if you are rogue/wiz.

lol@your sig, I think thats in Alexander?

ramy · Post by **ramy** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:33 am

Since I'm already hating the 5%/10%'s of prems already, then my answer is a definite no but its very likely to be added though. JM will do about anything to sell more

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:48 pm

Rich ppl own is an irrefutable fact, live with it.
- PT 10% absorption, dmg, luck
- damage scroll 20%, resistance scroll 20

Imagine a rogue with desperate skill +75% + 10% + 20% = 105% dmg increase, if plus the zerk will 1 hit a lvl 100 at lvl 80 :shock:

ramy · Post by **ramy** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:30 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:Rich ppl own is an irrefutable fact, live with it.
- PT 10% absorption, dmg, luck
- damage scroll 20%, resistance scroll 20

Imagine a rogue with desperate skill +75% + 10% + 20% = 105% dmg increase, if plus the zerk will 1 hit a lvl 100 at lvl 80

could it get more unfair? coz then even if i had "item mall zerk scrolls" running i'd die in a hit and the silk i spent is technically wasted due to a 30k+ crit

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:21 pm

no we shouldt.

than it would be zerk 24/7 and mages could one hit anyone.

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