** Now that there is no GameGuard **

justaskphil · Post by **justaskphil** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:14 am

PsYch008 wrote:
peex wrote:
Twysta wrote:
peex wrote:
JETninja wrote:I hope you don't run only a Hardware Firewall, unless you really know what your doing. Seen many think there were safe behind just basic routers.... LOL! They quickly find the truth of such foolishness.....

No i don't.. And it's not just a basic router.. It's a 800$ firewall.

Yea and i have a 4000$ firewall, beat that.

idiot

Just wanted to say that im not using any linksys piece of shit.. You don't have to go crazy about it..

im using a linksys piece of shit. it cost me 0 dollars. i win.

And I win too, for I am using its equally worthless counterpart, mr. netgear!

peex · Post by **peex** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:24 am

Frozen · Post by **Frozen** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:28 am

I'll become worried when I go on a website and see a download box asking
me if i wanna download thisisnotakeylogger.exe, Until then i'm not worried.
Most people lose their account because of stupid things like going to a website that claims free gold on globals.

timtam · Post by **timtam** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:13 am

I feel an urge to quote that huge quote but KeyJ told me not to quote spam

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Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:22 am

justaskphil wrote:
PsYch008 wrote:
peex wrote:
Twysta wrote:
peex wrote:
JETninja wrote:I hope you don't run only a Hardware Firewall, unless you really know what your doing. Seen many think there were safe behind just basic routers.... LOL! They quickly find the truth of such foolishness.....

No i don't.. And it's not just a basic router.. It's a 800$ firewall.

Yea and i have a 4000$ firewall, beat that.

idiot

Just wanted to say that im not using any linksys piece of shit.. You don't have to go crazy about it..

im using a linksys piece of shit. it cost me 0 dollars. i win.

And I win too, for I am using its equally worthless counterpart, mr. netgear!

this one right there? hummm it make me feel so good to quote it... haaaaaaaa :roll:

timtam · Post by **timtam** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:15 am

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:50 am

Thanks for posting this Drew_Benton
I really hope this can be sticky in the hack prevention sticky, even if it especially concerns people who rather have a multiclient or bot.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:55 pm

maybe it's not like u think, they are hiding GG, im sure it's still running

Demarthl · Post by **Demarthl** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:57 pm

thinkin about it after the update i launched sro, clicked start and as i tabbed to another window the icon selector came up with an extra icon, said nprotect. then i switched to firefox and downloaded boobies

i play silk road · Post by **i play silk road** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:47 pm

^

that the best u can dowload? meh i can do that in my sleep

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:52 pm

Demarthl wrote:thinkin about it after the update i launched sro, clicked start and as i tabbed to another window the icon selector came up with an extra icon, said nprotect. then i switched to firefox and downloaded boobies

Have you only boobies in your´s head. You dont have nothing else there :?:

Drew_Benton · Post by **Drew_Benton** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:55 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:maybe it's not like u think, they are hiding GG, im sure it's still running

I'm a programmer, I'm sure

I verfified many many times by going tohugh the code and testing, it's not there.

Easiest way to show it is to open up Silkroad, hit ctr + alt + delete. You will see sro_client.exe and its 300+ MB memory usage. If you read up on GameGuard, you will see that it does "Process Cloaking". That is so programmers cant open the process and read/write memory to and from it. If you are still not convinced, you could write yourself your own little AutoIt script / program to read memory from the game and it will work.

The fact my demo / any program you do yourself works further confirms that GG is not running. Heck, move your GameGuard folder in your SRO directory to your dekstop and run SilkRoad and you will still see the logo (because its in the pk2 file) and file come up.

Hope that's enough to convince!

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:52 pm

i think JM is going easy with bot programmers. Without GG, they can easily hack the data of image code. So that with a GG bypass, they can write a code for autologin.
ARE JM SUPPORTING BOTS???

Demarthl · Post by **Demarthl** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:55 pm

i think they should replace the login system (minus thei mage verification part) with a cabbage.

what ya gonna log in to now bot?!? huh? yeah DAMN RIGHT VEGGIE WORLD! IN YOUR FACE YOU LEVEL 80 ROBOTIC TURNIP!

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:50 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:i think JM is going easy with bot programmers. Without GG, they can easily hack the data of image code. So that with a GG bypass, they can write a code for autologin.
ARE JM SUPPORTING BOTS???

I think there is always a way to get around the security, but still, the fact they at least tried to improve security is a good thing!

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:53 pm

Demarthl wrote:i think they should replace the login system (minus thei mage verification part) with a cabbage.

what ya gonna log in to now bot?!? huh? yeah DAMN RIGHT VEGGIE WORLD! IN YOUR FACE YOU LEVEL 80 ROBOTIC TURNIP!

Actually, bot can do what human can do. To resolve the problem of image code, they dont need to see, to understand what it is, but they only need the answer that they can hack atm without GG. I think each image is coded. The difference between bot and human is the intelligence or the brain. Maybe at login, JM should give a random puzzle so that the bot cant find a specific answer

Demarthl · Post by **Demarthl** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:06 pm

i was just pointing out how flawed the login style is, what with the having to launch, click start, let load, type in info, get DC start over.

a betetr way would to have two logins.

1. security login, you only need one of these for any game you play, you aquire it from the security company's mainsite, you agree to terms of service etc, your IP is logged, your ISP logged, and notified of your agreement to connecting.

launch the security program, login with this, it checks for updates, and either gets the update or runs as normal.

2. launch the game of choice to play, this brings up the splash screen, of which you input the login info for that particular game, aquired by registering at the games website, the launcher bounces data about and figures if its ok to login,checking your computer is behaving and has the securioty program running, of which denies the use of malicious software to run at the same time, once the launcher has signalled you have logged in succesfully, the start button comes up, and you go.

it then does the nice scenic loading screen, and flies right through to your characters ready and waiting for you to click their naughty bits and play.

just a quick thought, that was ^^

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:30 pm

Demarthl wrote:2. the launcher bounces data about and figures if its ok to login,checking your computer is behaving and has the securioty program running, of which denies theuse of malicious software to run at the same time, once the launcher has signalled you have logged in succesfully, the start button comes up, and you go.

This is stupid idea some one can write..I dont want someone else get in my pc becose of a game . And you never now can be a hacker ..

Demarthl · Post by **Demarthl** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:32 pm

you were born with dipshit written in reverse on your forehead so everytime you looked in the mirror you knew what you are, right?

im saying this as an idea that professional companies, in gaming security, and game development could implement, its just an idea, i wouldn't know how to hack a computer, i can only hack trees, with a fscking chainsaw.

and no-one start on the 'professional' comment and joymax :roll:

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:46 pm

You can look in the mirror and you can see what pop up there , but Take it easy Demarthl

WOW professional companies lol
But what you want is open ppl pc so the can look what the have in it ,

Perhaps the game be secured but not players pc.

[SD]Twysta · Post by **[SD]Twysta** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:13 pm

RuYi wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:i think JM is going easy with bot programmers. Without GG, they can easily hack the data of image code. So that with a GG bypass, they can write a code for autologin.
ARE JM SUPPORTING BOTS???

I think there is always a way to get around the security, but still, the fact they at least tried to improve security is a good thing!

Sounds like we are the parent's of a 1 year old child that has just walked his/her first 2 footsteps lol.