Just a personal note - From morningdew

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:09 pm

Ryoko wrote:Why do I have to reply to the same topic in two different threads?

Oh oh... cuz the titles were slightly different

Oh, sorry didnt saw the other post :O

Silkrose · Post by **Silkrose** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:10 pm

prolly majority of the people who posts here are little kids who have no idea of how pressuring a job can be. All you do is bitch and moan at everything GMs say.

You want GMs to communicate with you, now that they did, you think it's advertising.

They try to assure you that they're working hard, putting extra effort just to meet your demands, and somehow asking for a bit of recognition-- that you may atleast understand how uneasy their jobs are...now you say they're a bunch of emos.

I don't know what the fark is up with people! Either you all don't have a life, you're just gaming 24/7 and don't understand that work could be pretty presurring especially if no matter how hard you try, people kept on insulting you. All you do is complain like a bunch of spoiled brats wanting this and that. Yeah i do understand that there's really something to complain about, BUT HEY, nobody's perfect, and you can't expect all your wishes will come true.

I feel sincerity for the post. Some people needs to have some heart too. It's not easy. If you think you could do so well then by all means be a GM and relocate to Korea! You loved this game, if you don't, you wouldn't care at all. You would just all quit, play another game and stop posting here.

CrazyAztec · Post by **CrazyAztec** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:18 pm

ermm...

okay. heres how it works.

its an international SRO (we;re talking about global population here)

so approx NEW BOTS ACCOUNT IS 8K
and the banned account is ...lets say

1k? or less...

PR0METHEUS · Post by **PR0METHEUS** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:54 pm

I completely agree with Silkrose. So many people whine and complain that they're not seeing results, or they think they can do better. There has to be a LOT of work that goes on behind the scenes that we don't see. Joymax is a small company, and is quite understaffed for the size of the game. It's a lot of pressure on them. People say they should hire more employees? It's not always that simple. If you think you can do better, go to Seoul and become a GM. Put your money where your mouth is.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:56 pm

Ok everyone who agrees with dew here really don't have the right to complain about ANYTHING anymore.

I guess really no one got my point. Ok it's sad that he loves the game sooo much he can't do his job properly, well get professional help. As for what some guy said before half of the forumers are kids, hell yeah they are that's why they believe such bull crap that's aimed at them. I am not going to sit here and prove to you I'm not a kid or I never have work pressure, cause I do end of story.

Before I forget, he improved the forum ? Lol don't give me that crap 90% of us were too scared to post anyways cause of that idiotic quote = id shit. How on earth could you improve on something that retarded. Oh sure he can sit and type for ages making people feel sorry for him, but I for one aint buying it. See changes in game = My mind changed.

-Sorry if i'm drasticcly pissing some of you off. But this is what I think about the matter.

Mauler109 · Post by **Mauler109** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:25 pm

Note that in the letter/post/whatever that morningdew sent out was that they don't spend the whole time trying to find botters. They are trying to improve the game, stop the CCF, and then the botters.
I myself don't have a job, but my dad has two part-time jobs and barely has his own time between those and looking for a full-time job.

EwwBabel · Post by **EwwBabel** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:42 pm

i agree with him, that's why i never have complained about anything.

Grimjaw · Post by **Grimjaw** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:35 pm

Unless something drastic is done to prevent any further disaster,they will crush themselfs under theire own weight.

Chaby · Post by **Chaby** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:26 pm

EwwBabel wrote:i agree with him, that's why i never have complained about anything.

You would agree on anything that allows your botting.

DeaDSwarM · Post by **DeaDSwarM** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:35 am

Plus44 wrote:Chaby is just rightfully pissed. Hes buying silk, and wants some good fortune in return .. Him, me and others are not seeing this good fortune.

So when this ' gm helper ' posts some story like this, sorry but as I said on another thread a professional knows how to deal with it. If his health really is declining under work stress, then he's planning his work load completely wrong. You can not tell me a company like JoyNax who literally make millions can't afford to appoint more ' helpers '.

It's Bullshit, morningdew is acting like oktayaztec guy, a complete emo.

COMPLETELY TRUE!

Botters and others are feeding JowMax with millions of dollars a year
and still they have their stupid excuse about not having enough employees
and GM's/staff and that sotry Mountaindew wrote in my own personal
opinion is total bullshit. He's just wanting us to feel sorry for the not enough work they do. He has health problem then who's stupid fault
is that and theres 100+ people out there that can do MUCH better jobs
in less time...

MD Stop your btching about your health and shit! it is something im not
buying make up a better excuse.

PB_and_J · Post by **PB_and_J** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:49 am

Silkrose wrote:prolly majority of the people who posts here are little kids who have no idea of how pressuring a job can be. All you do is bitch and moan at everything GMs say.

How is it that only "little kids" bitch and complain.

AMON-Ra · Post by **AMON-Ra** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:57 am

I really think Silkrose is sweet and caring, and I wish I had that level of femininity happening in my life right now but I think when you are so sweet, you actually can't see reality.

It is of course a huge lie that Joymax can't find more employees, I doubt anyone buys that nonsense but if you do, I love you

Anyways, as I previously said JM are using this character to run around on different servers, pvp a few ppl, say hi a few times, wear a noob icon to create the impression of action.

JM knows it will take some serious action to fix the problems we have with this game, and they are not prepared to spend the money.

Fullstop.

Instead, employ this character to create the impression of action.

It's simple and cheap.

How do I know this? I have a devious mind and I've worked in marketing :wink:

But I won't do that any more.

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:03 am

DeaDSwarM wrote:
Plus44 wrote:Chaby is just rightfully pissed. Hes buying silk, and wants some good fortune in return .. Him, me and others are not seeing this good fortune.

So when this ' gm helper ' posts some story like this, sorry but as I said on another thread a professional knows how to deal with it. If his health really is declining under work stress, then he's planning his work load completely wrong. You can not tell me a company like JoyNax who literally make millions can't afford to appoint more ' helpers '.

It's Bullshit, morningdew is acting like oktayaztec guy, a complete emo.

COMPLETELY TRUE!

Botters and others are feeding JowMax with millions of dollars a year
and still they have their stupid excuse about not having enough employees
and GM's/staff and that sotry Mountaindew wrote in my own personal
opinion is total bullshit. He's just wanting us to feel sorry for the not enough work they do. He has health problem then who's stupid fault
is that and theres 100+ people out there that can do MUCH better jobs
in less time...

MD Stop your btching about your health and shit! it is something im not
buying make up a better excuse.

If you don't like how things are being run atm, go find another game.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:21 am

alwinp wrote:If they would have notified us alot more then maybe i would believe most of what he said.

We are 1 year further, and still nothing has changed.
The same kind of notices, always the same message's that they'll try to please us more (wich they still didn't succeeded into)

Yes, it might be hard work.
But like someone said here.

Who can we believe if we don't have any results?
It's either they don't want to do anything, or they are doing it for nothing.
I'm sure if the gm's worked 20 hours a day they could at least banned the high lvl botters.

20 hours of work + few famous botters = fishy?

I agree with Chaby. as longs as i don't see resuly i stick to my opinion wich is that they drink cofee and talk to each other for 20 hours a day, not work.

Spot on.
Why didn't someone post this many months ago? Why is this the first time jn is reaching out to the community?

PB_and_J wrote:How is it that only "little kids" bitch and complain.

Why must you always use the "kiddies" card? We know your stance on young gamers maturity by now, plz stop repeating yourself.

1llu51on · Post by **1llu51on** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:31 am

I'm siding with everyone who thinks JM still hasn't given their best effort to this game. Because it's true and a fact.

If you don't like how things are being run atm, go find another game.

Oh wow, your solution is soooooo childish. You like SRO ? Think of it as your best friend, you care for him/er, your brother in arms, now this best friend of yours did bad things. Do you just leave him be and find another best friend ? Do you ? If you do, I think you're the one who has issues.
Most people would try to persuade him/er not doing such things again. It's just like this condition we're at.

Although I am quite disagree with DeaDSwarM. Finding another game is actually a false-lead solution, in the end Joymax and SRO will stay as it was, chaos/catasthrope, whatever... sad. It is because we still care about this game, we want to see improvements, see good things to happen, that we are giving ill comments which most of them aren't just based on our own opinion, but rather a FACT. All these problems can be seen ingame. If you can't spot any, then it is you who should quit the game. You're not giving enough attention to it.

I'm siding with Ryoko and everybody else.

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:54 am

1llu51on wrote:I'm siding with everyone who thinks JM still hasn't given their best effort to this game. Because it's true and a fact.

If you don't like how things are being run atm, go find another game.

Oh wow, your solution is soooooo childish. You like SRO ? Think of it as your best friend, you care for him/er, your brother in arms, now this best friend of yours did bad things. Do you just leave him be and find another best friend ? Do you ? If you do, I think you're the one who has issues.
Most people would try to persuade him/er not doing such things again. It's just like this condition we're at.

Although I am quite disagree with DeaDSwarM. Finding another game is actually a false-lead solution, in the end Joymax and SRO will stay as it was, chaos/catasthrope, whatever... sad. It is because we still care about this game, we want to see improvements, see good things to happen, that we are giving ill comments which most of them aren't just based on our own opinion, but rather a FACT. All these problems can be seen ingame. If you can't spot any, then it is you who should quit the game. You're not giving enough attention to it.

I'm siding with Ryoko and everybody else.

I'm having fun with SRO, but some people can't do anything but whine whine whine. It's not like they're deaf. If all you can do is whine, you're probably not having fun. What do you do when you're not having fun with a game anymore? Quit. That's what alot of people have done, due to the lack of quality service from JM.

And please, PLEASE, don't compare Joymax to a person. It's just silly. You are the customer, not it's friend. If the customer is unsatisfied with the service/product that it recieves, it uses/plays, etc. another one. JM has yet to show what it can really do.

1llu51on · Post by **1llu51on** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:59 am

And please, PLEASE, don't compare Joymax to a person. It's just silly. You are the customer, not it's friend. If the customer is unsatisfied with the service/product that it recieves, it uses/plays, etc. another one.

I'm stating a similiar condition, if you can't take the meaning, so be it. Be ignorable.
If the costumer is unsatisfied, but see the quality of the product can still be improved. The costumer will give feedbacks, not go find another one. Think carefully. What is it that you don't understand ?

jarrod · Post by **jarrod** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:10 am

chaby n pluss44 .....y dun u 2 jus suck my cock off or jus find anothe game?sick of u complaining this and that..... go find another game if u think u're wasting ur dollars on ISRO...

n silkrose...i agreee with u ....how nice if the comunity in this forum and isro have the same feeling as urs..unlike those retards that whine n complain whole day n worse still trying to teach ppl how to be more professional and manage their duties.......

chaby,pluss44 STFU ........ anyway how old r u guys?

i dont understand ppl who keeps on complaining but still they r palying the damn game.........

stop making a foool of ur self.............khang n sp has made it to tat point...u guys wanna add to tat list?
print out silkrose' post n stick it on either ur ass or ur ceiling and read it b4 drown in sleeep each nite..

1llu51on · Post by **1llu51on** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:24 am

jarrod wrote:chaby n pluss44 .....y dun u 2 jus suck my cock off or jus find anothe game?sick of u complaining this and that..... go find another game if u think u're wasting ur dollars on ISRO...

n silkrose...i agreee with u ....how nice if the comunity in this forum and isro have the same feeling as urs..unlike those retards that whine n complain whole day n worse still trying to teach ppl how to be more professional and manage their duties.......

chaby,pluss44 STFU ........ anyway how old r u guys?

i dont understand ppl who keeps on complaining but still they r palying the damn game.........

stop making a foool of ur self.............khang n sp has made it to tat point...u guys wanna add to tat list?
print out silkrose' post n stick it on either ur ass or ur ceiling and read it b4 drown in sleeep each nite..

I don't know if I should listen to a person who can't type right.

I don't mind your grammar or typos, I'm no good at that either. But if you're using words such as "n", "r" as referring to "and", "are" etc. And you dare to use it to criticize others. I should ask the same about your age.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:24 am

@ jarrod
^In denial.^

CrazyAztec · Post by **CrazyAztec** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:25 am

jarrod wrote:print out silkrose' post n stick it on either ur ass or ur ceiling and read it b4 drown in sleeep each nite..

lolz..

btw, Chaby(jewro) you should stpu and start making friends with the palestine. Cursing doesnt makes you great upon the eyes of the world.

fullstop.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:27 am

CrazyAztec wrote:btw, Chaby(jewro) you should stpu and start making friends with the palestine.

Translation plz

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:32 am

1llu51on wrote:
And please, PLEASE, don't compare Joymax to a person. It's just silly. You are the customer, not it's friend. If the customer is unsatisfied with the service/product that it recieves, it uses/plays, etc. another one.

I'm stating a similiar condition, if you can't take the meaning, so be it. Be ignorable.
If the costumer is unsatisfied, but see the quality of the product can still be improved. The costumer will give feedbacks, not go find another one. Think carefully. What is it that you don't understand ?

Hello_Kitty wrote:I'm having fun with SRO, but some people can't do anything but whine whine whine. It's not like they're deaf

Quit the game if you're not having fun with it, or don't like how it's run. The poin of the game is simply to have FUN with the game. If you whine constantly, I honestly can't see how you can be having fun.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:40 am

You're constantly missing his point Kitty.

Maxen · Post by **Maxen** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:40 am

to honest does that post sound like the kind of thing a "professional company" would allow an employee to post?

i think we can all see things are getting done and understand the fact that no matter how many botters are banned thousands more are created and its very easy for us to sit and complain about it all,and it has to be said we tend not to think of gm's as...lets say "human beings" sometimes ,as they're being paid for what they do.

but to allow someone to post something of that nature, to gain the sympathy of "paying players"(myself NOT included in that majority) isn't the act of a professional company.

As some of you have pointed out millions of other people face the same pressure's everyday, and while it may appear we voice our anger on the employee's rather than the company, the message is really aimed at the company and it's the company failing both us and the ones they employ not the other way around.

bottom line is many of us appericate what hard work there doing and the pressures they face day to day because of it, but its joymax's failing them and us.

and its about time there employer listened to them and us!

*rant over,not that people will agree anyway

*

1llu51on · Post by **1llu51on** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:46 am

Hello_Kitty wrote:Quit the game if you're not having fun with it, or don't like how it's run. The poin of the game is simply to have FUN with the game. If you whine constantly, I honestly can't see how you can be having fun.

You need not bolding the text. I can read them fine and dandy. You're not getting it. All my whole posts. Consider this my last one for you. I won't reply your "Just quit the game" comment anymore. Because that's the thing I kept reading from your posts.

Whines and feedbacks are completey different. You're really not getting it.

Whine only states thing you dislike and doesn't give any solution to it.
While Feedback states the flaws, and giving solutions to counter it. See the difference.

And goodbye.

jarrod · Post by **jarrod** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:46 am

with nuklear(or i should spelled it nuclear) and around 1llu51on, i guess this forum is turning into a english literature class... do u need any spell checked?

so wat...if im using "n" or "r" refering to and & are......... correct me if im wrong, u do understand wat im saying after all do u ..
and nah, i dont need u to understand wat im saying after all...since u (1llu51on), pluss44 and chaby are step brothers.

jarrod · Post by **jarrod** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:49 am

1llu51on wrote:
Hello_Kitty wrote:Quit the game if you're not having fun with it, or don't like how it's run. The poin of the game is simply to have FUN with the game. If you whine constantly, I honestly can't see how you can be having fun.

You need not bolding the text. I can read them fine and dandy. You're not getting it. All my whole posts. Consider this my last one for you. I won't reply your "Just quit the game" comment anymore. Because that's the thing I kept reading from your posts.

Whines and feedbacks are completey different. You're really not getting it.

Whine only states thing you dislike and doesn't give any solution to it.
While Feedback states the flaws, and giving solutions to counter it. See the difference.

And goodbye.

looks like u're the only 1 understand best on wat u're trying to say...best is get a mirror n chat with it.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:49 am

jarrod wrote:with nuklear(or i should spelled it nuclear) and around 1llu51on, i guess this forum is turning into a english literature class... do u need any spell checked?

so wat...if im using "n" or "r" refering to and & are......... correct me if im wrong, u do understand wat im saying after all do u ..
and nah, i dont need u to understand wat im saying after all...since u (1llu51on), pluss44 and chaby are step brothers.

I said nothing about spelling, but should have. If you don't spell decently around here you will get bullied for it.
Fact #1

EwwBabel · Post by **EwwBabel** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:51 am

Chaby wrote:
EwwBabel wrote:i agree with him, that's why i never have complained about anything.

You would agree on anything that allows your botting.

always accusing... i heard you're kinda jealous of siih's sosun bow she got. hahhahahaa