Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:19 pm

this build is more than that

but i agree with you

if anyone try this build out pls give me a report how this char act like for you ... on my opinion its a very good build for bow

but i need feedback

thx

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:06 pm

I am currently lvl 21, liking the build. I have garment so it's hard to take down giants my level. It is working out though.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:25 pm

@taintofsleep good to hear that

i hope you enjoy your char
later you will be a strong bower

good luck

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:21 am

Only reason I can't kill giants is because my skills are at 15 because I am planning on farming at 24.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:19 am

yeah sp farming is a must...
who wants to be strong needto do that.
no pain no gain !

Sethzor · Post by **Sethzor** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:47 pm

i'll try this build once ^^ seems good but atm dont have much time for SP farming and this build needs a lot of gold for gear and weapon so i'll start with this build on summer.

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:20 pm

Doesn't need a lot of gold for gear. It just will take longer if you don't have better gear. Like all builds.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:53 pm

@Sethzor lol in summer ? woah XD that is a long time till there
its depends on what lvl u want to have the 80:80 if u want it later then u dont need to waste ur money now it always depends

@taintofsleep thats right

Sethzor · Post by **Sethzor** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:10 pm

at summer cuz of school

can play 1 hour on day ^^ and need gold for some sos som 16 cuz i cba farm later ^^

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:37 pm

im making an ice archer, with cold+force and...i wanna be higher lvl to see if the crits reall hurt..if they dont ill jst go 80:80

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:43 pm

@Sethzor lol i see

@IceSworder ice archer ? wanna slow your monster befor they reach you ? xD

iGod · Post by **iGod** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:42 am

tl;dr most of the previous posts

But...@lvl80 with str/int+5 on all gear the balance would be str:int 80:85

Thats if u did his 70:70 plan which was actually 69:70 but hey

85% int balance ---> massive dmg from the imbue

80% str balance ---> almost 2x more dmg from the crit

Imagine a 2:1 int heavy hybrids nuke dmg ~x2 on crit

Since bow skills give a very high chance of critical bow is best for this type of hybrid

If that was possible that would be one of the best builds for trying out if you are bored with these "default" silk builds.. just my 0.02$

Cyndaine · Post by **Cyndaine** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:27 am

interesting ideas jade, i might try it out

and also i was reading pages 1 and 2 of this thread and there was some big arguement going on

i just wanted to say that pls dont criticize ppl if u dont like there opinion, they r just tryna help. if u rlly have to voice ur disagreement, b nice about it instead of just saying "yeah ur guide sucks, and ur a noob, and u completly dont understand sro"

thats just rlly mean

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:45 am

Cyndaine wrote:interesting ideas jade, i might try it out

and also i was reading pages 1 and 2 of this thread and there was some big arguement going on

i just wanted to say that pls dont criticize ppl if u dont like there opinion, they r just tryna help. if u rlly have to voice ur disagreement, b nice about it instead of just saying "yeah ur guide sucks, and ur a noob, and u completly dont understand sro"

thats just rlly mean

Since you already read 1 or 2 pages, how about you read the other 5 pages before making comments like that.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:32 pm

@iGod hehe yeah just give it a try

@Cyndaine thx if you try it out then give me a feedback how you like the build =P

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:03 pm

iGod wrote:tl;dr most of the previous posts

But...@lvl80 with str/int+5 on all gear the balance would be str:int 80:85

Thats if u did his 70:70 plan which was actually 69:70 but hey

85% int balance ---> massive dmg from the imbue

80% str balance ---> almost 2x more dmg from the crit

Imagine a 2:1 int heavy hybrids nuke dmg ~x2 on crit

Since bow skills give a very high chance of critical bow is best for this type of hybrid

If that was possible that would be one of the best builds for trying out if you are bored with these "default" silk builds.. just my 0.02$

what exactly are you talking about? Im not sure but just to make it clear:
--You cannot crit on a nuke
-- 80% phys balance will not give 2x damage on a crit. Not quite. If you are arguing that bow gives high critical chance, wouldn't the best build according to you be a pure str or very str heavy hybrid which do the most with critical?

(Just to clarify pure str does indeed do the most with critical. The argument for the hybrid bow is that when you can't critical, you still need to be able to do some damage)

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:28 pm

@IguanaRampage...yeah full str do the most crit withouth imbue if you compared that with a full int or hybrid...but if u calculate the mag attack power it dont have to be that much stronger and compared with a hybrid
the hybrid do more avarage damage as a full str bow... the 80:80 do more damage in less time

thats all

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:32 pm

I think he was trying to say is that crit will do good damage as well as the imbue?

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:34 pm

build of the year, cold str(maybe hybrid later) with force
hahaha, pure ownage

, well its fun to grind with...and ppl will always be around me asking to do things with em

and i can ruuuuuulllleeee in group pvps/wars
i always loved bow, and this is such a fun build, i dont care xDD

Cyndaine · Post by **Cyndaine** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:57 am

Da_Realest wrote:
Cyndaine wrote:interesting ideas jade, i might try it out

and also i was reading pages 1 and 2 of this thread and there was some big arguement going on

i just wanted to say that pls dont criticize ppl if u dont like there opinion, they r just tryna help. if u rlly have to voice ur disagreement, b nice about it instead of just saying "yeah ur guide sucks, and ur a noob, and u completly dont understand sro"

thats just rlly mean
Since you already read 1 or 2 pages, how about you read the other 5 pages before making comments like that.

sry if im offending u or anything, im just saying. and besides, even if ppl already did say something like what i said does it rlly matter if i say it again? its always nice to defend ppl who spend a long time writing a guide only to get critized by others who disagree

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:19 am

Jadekiss wrote:@IguanaRampage...yeah full str do the most crit withouth imbue if you compared that with a full int or hybrid...but if u calculate the mag attack power it dont have to be that much stronger and compared with a hybrid
the hybrid do more avarage damage as a full str bow... the 80:80 do more damage in less time thats all

yeah I get that and I'm not arguing against that don't worry. I was just confused as to what he was saying...

. Seemed to be arguing that because of high crit chance, you should go hybrid instead of pure strength. :banghead:

kabu · Post by **kabu** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:03 am

Jadekiss Can i ask u a question your build interest me so much that im trying it and its going goo so for im lvl 41 rite now but one question why cant i use ice r lightning has my imbue i love ice and i like lightning plus u get extra int damage from lightning. so y should fire be any better.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:20 am

Cyndaine wrote:
Da_Realest wrote:
Cyndaine wrote:interesting ideas jade, i might try it out

and also i was reading pages 1 and 2 of this thread and there was some big arguement going on

i just wanted to say that pls dont criticize ppl if u dont like there opinion, they r just tryna help. if u rlly have to voice ur disagreement, b nice about it instead of just saying "yeah ur guide sucks, and ur a noob, and u completly dont understand sro"

thats just rlly mean
Since you already read 1 or 2 pages, how about you read the other 5 pages before making comments like that.

sry if im offending u or anything, im just saying. and besides, even if ppl already did say something like what i said does it rlly matter if i say it again? its always nice to defend ppl who spend a long time writing a guide only to get critized by others who disagree

No, you did not offend me.

I'm saying its pointless to criticized when everyone already came to a agreement on the 6th page.

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:09 am

Fire Imbue would be best because it gives most damage. Cold Imbue becomes pointless later on... blah blah blah... Lightning. yeah we all know about lightning imbue.

EllisD · Post by **EllisD** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:13 am

I think lightning imbue is great.

Keep those mobs a'comin

Cyndaine · Post by **Cyndaine** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:57 am

Da_Realest wrote:
Cyndaine wrote:
Da_Realest wrote:
Cyndaine wrote:interesting ideas jade, i might try it out

and also i was reading pages 1 and 2 of this thread and there was some big arguement going on

i just wanted to say that pls dont criticize ppl if u dont like there opinion, they r just tryna help. if u rlly have to voice ur disagreement, b nice about it instead of just saying "yeah ur guide sucks, and ur a noob, and u completly dont understand sro"

thats just rlly mean
Since you already read 1 or 2 pages, how about you read the other 5 pages before making comments like that.

sry if im offending u or anything, im just saying. and besides, even if ppl already did say something like what i said does it rlly matter if i say it again? its always nice to defend ppl who spend a long time writing a guide only to get critized by others who disagree
No, you did not offend me.

I'm saying its pointless to criticized when everyone already came to a agreement on the 6th page.

aight, then, everythings good:) guess i should've looked at pg 6 first neway:P

sartplyr · Post by **sartplyr** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:46 am

I've read the 7 pages and was wondering what level do you really see the 70:70 ratio really work. I'm planning to make one but I'm deciding if its just better to go pure int first maybe till the 30s. Would a lvl 16 farmer with sos bow still be able to 2 hit archers with 70:70 ratio? I'm planning to start anew on Xian without any funding so i want to maximize my dmg early on. Thx for the replies

kabu · Post by **kabu** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:10 am

but its fun freezing and slowing down your targets how does ice become useless.lightning is awesome to i love the spread damage.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:43 pm

Btw... fire has the most damage and ice the less but ice got a freez and frosbite chance thats make ice so interesting for some ppl !
but on my opinion if you want to be strong take fire if u want to play safety take ice !
but on pvp later ice become useless of the new alchemy thing = ice resistent

@sartplyr it depends on the bow ! a full int would kill the mobs faster but has less hp... u need to make 80:80 ratio if u want to be strong at lvl 16 with sos bow but that would be a waste of money !
thats why planning a 80:80 ratio later

but its up to you

rarensu39 · Post by **rarensu39** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:35 am

hey jadekiss. i wont love it if u make another threa with specific pts on how to build this 70:70 char. im completely new, thx. i chose my first char to be based off your ideas