Chinese char advantage over Euro char?

[YourWorstNightmare]

Because Chinese characters have every skill available to them, and since the Euro classes have either magic or strength skills, it's obvious that it's Chinese > Euro. Especially if your Hybrid Chinese.

[Belgarath]

From what I've seen while playing Euro, Euro characters do a lot more damage at beginning levels. I'm not sure, but I think that continues into higher levels. At level 24 I can do 1200-1400 with my nukes to mobs just a couple levels lower. I think it will all equal out.

[GaiaX]

It will all definitely equal out. But it also depends what stats each mob has, you never know right?

Anyway, Euro chars do quests and everything sro involved in "just" euro or can then spread through China as well?

[deadcool66]

It will all definitely equal out. But it also depends what stats each mob has, you never know right?

Anyway, Euro chars do quests and everything sro involved in "just" euro or can then spread through China as well?

nope euro chars CAN go into jangan and other chinese areas

If thats what you meant

[YourWorstNightmare]

But Euro characters are also not allowed to just change from Armor to garment, making them more vurneable to Chinese builds. But like you people said, we have to wait and see.

[darthsithius]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

[aibakaneko]

It will all definitely equal out. But it also depends what stats each mob has, you never know right?

Anyway, Euro chars do quests and everything sro involved in "just" euro or can then spread through China as well?

no.. u can go grind in CHina as well..and do quests. the only thing is.. they don't drop stuff u wear... so why would u want to do that.. XD

[IguanaRampage]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

uh... so u think koreans and chinese are one and the same or something? And they'll make the Chinese chars better because of that? I think they'll try to make it as even as they can because they just want to make money by making a good, balanced game. Though it might not be balanced at first, they will probably have to make a few updates to euro to ensure it is pretty equal to Chinese.
And u used 4 t's on bottom btw
@original poster:
You have a good point. Chinese have better autopot, can switch between garments and armor, can receive euro buffs, and it makes more sense for them to go hybrid.
But I dont see why everyone says euro chars must be pure. I mean, if a cleric for example goes pure int to maximize its atk, how does it expect to survive in order to heal everyone in job war? I think adding stamina to int builds is encouraged, but it will decrease ur damage by a lot more in euro than it does in Chinese, because u only have 1 type of atk (phys or mag) on ur wep.

[MALDITO]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

The stupid post of the day...

[[SD]Master_Wong]

1v1 china wil be best


wars (job/guild) euro wil win as there designed for team play

[nightbloom]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

uh... so u think koreans and chinese are one and the same or something? And they'll make the Chinese chars better because of that? I think they'll try to make it as even as they can because they just want to make money by making a good, balanced game. Though it might not be balanced at first, they will probably have to make a few updates to euro to ensure it is pretty equal to Chinese.
And u used 4 t's on bottom btw
@original poster:
You have a good point. Chinese have better autopot, can switch between garments and armor, can receive euro buffs, and it makes more sense for them to go hybrid.
But I dont see why everyone says euro chars must be pure. I mean, if a cleric for example goes pure int to maximize its atk, how does it expect to survive in order to heal everyone in job war? I think adding stamina to int builds is encouraged, but it will decrease ur damage by a lot more in euro than it does in Chinese, because u only have 1 type of atk (phys or mag) on ur wep.

if you have no magical attack, WHY would you add int at all? Why wouldnt you keep that physical balance % as high as possible to maximize your damage?

A cleric would survive in a job war by staying in the safe zone and healing from there. Outside the safe zone it is the group's job to keep the healer alive, just like when training. THe cleric has a nuke that does 900% magical damage for emergencies. I guess if you wanted to be completely dpendent on the ppl around you to kill a single mob or player, you could go hybrid... lol

[Juey]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

The stupid post of the day...

+1

1v1 china wil be best


wars (job/guild) euro wil win as there designed for team play

I cant comment on the 1 vs 1 part, as there are no high lv euro characters yet. The point of the beta-testing in the korean server is to test this out among other things.
And FOS in the current korean version, by no means dictates that it will be exactly like that when we the ISRO version get the FOS. On the way, there could be some major balance or other gameplay changes and probably even more changes after they released the FOS on ISRO.

As for job and guildwars, what stop people from mixing euro and chinese in the party?
Imagine some time in the future in a server on ISRO, where there are just as many fully farmed euro as fully farmed chinese characters, all at the level cap. Which 8 person party will be best? A purely euro, a purely chinese, or a mix of both?
Also take into consideration:
* The different mix of classes that the pure euro party can have
* The nukers\tankers\hybrids mix that the pure chinese party can have
* Or in the eurochinese party, that can have everyone (all euro classes, all chinese built) in.

* Rare equipment (like SOS for the chinese) At the cap and everyone being fully farmed, equipment will be very important.
* Teamwork in each party. This is proven to be a major thing in all the guildwars, jobwars that I've been in, and I'm sure it's true for most other people too. Even with more people, better equipment, you might loose against people with better teamwork.

So in short, we dont no shit for sure. Want to know for sure? Wait and see. But of course I can't stop you from speculating

[IguanaRampage]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

uh... so u think koreans and chinese are one and the same or something? And they'll make the Chinese chars better because of that? I think they'll try to make it as even as they can because they just want to make money by making a good, balanced game. Though it might not be balanced at first, they will probably have to make a few updates to euro to ensure it is pretty equal to Chinese.
And u used 4 t's on bottom btw
@original poster:
You have a good point. Chinese have better autopot, can switch between garments and armor, can receive euro buffs, and it makes more sense for them to go hybrid.
But I dont see why everyone says euro chars must be pure. I mean, if a cleric for example goes pure int to maximize its atk, how does it expect to survive in order to heal everyone in job war? I think adding stamina to int builds is encouraged, but it will decrease ur damage by a lot more in euro than it does in Chinese, because u only have 1 type of atk (phys or mag) on ur wep.

if you have no magical attack, WHY would you add int at all? Why wouldnt you keep that physical balance % as high as possible to maximize your damage?

A cleric would survive in a job war by staying in the safe zone and healing from there. Outside the safe zone it is the group's job to keep the healer alive, just like when training. THe cleric has a nuke that does 900% magical damage for emergencies. I guess if you wanted to be completely dpendent on the ppl around you to kill a single mob or player, you could go hybrid... lol

ok so maybe that wasnt the greatest example... but think about a str build. What if a bard used the mp absolute damage on them and they didnt have fast autopot? That would take away 3k of what is at lvl 60 probably 5-6k mp and autopot is 30 secs??? Plz explain that, I'm confused about why pure strength would still be better in that scenario.

[nightbloom]

the game is orriginaly from korea who gives a shit about europe chinese will pwn all and thats teh bottttom line.

uh... so u think koreans and chinese are one and the same or something? And they'll make the Chinese chars better because of that? I think they'll try to make it as even as they can because they just want to make money by making a good, balanced game. Though it might not be balanced at first, they will probably have to make a few updates to euro to ensure it is pretty equal to Chinese.
And u used 4 t's on bottom btw
@original poster:
You have a good point. Chinese have better autopot, can switch between garments and armor, can receive euro buffs, and it makes more sense for them to go hybrid.
But I dont see why everyone says euro chars must be pure. I mean, if a cleric for example goes pure int to maximize its atk, how does it expect to survive in order to heal everyone in job war? I think adding stamina to int builds is encouraged, but it will decrease ur damage by a lot more in euro than it does in Chinese, because u only have 1 type of atk (phys or mag) on ur wep.

if you have no magical attack, WHY would you add int at all? Why wouldnt you keep that physical balance % as high as possible to maximize your damage?

A cleric would survive in a job war by staying in the safe zone and healing from there. Outside the safe zone it is the group's job to keep the healer alive, just like when training. THe cleric has a nuke that does 900% magical damage for emergencies. I guess if you wanted to be completely dpendent on the ppl around you to kill a single mob or player, you could go hybrid... lol

ok so maybe that wasnt the greatest example... but think about a str build. What if a bard used the mp absolute damage on them and they didnt have fast autopot? That would take away 3k of what is at lvl 60 probably 5-6k mp and autopot is 30 secs??? Plz explain that, I'm confused about why pure strength would still be better in that scenario.

The bard giveth and taketh away.. lol A euro without a complete party is useless. So if there is a bard in your party, then you can get MP pretty fast from him.

The cleric also has an absolute damage nuke. The two classes are closely related.

[IguanaRampage]

The bard giveth and taketh away.. lol A euro without a complete party is useless. So if there is a bard in your party, then you can get MP pretty fast from him.

The cleric also has an absolute damage nuke. The two classes are closely related.

OK yeah thanks. Also as a question out of curiousity what is the Euro cap atm?

[nightbloom]

The bard giveth and taketh away.. lol A euro without a complete party is useless. So if there is a bard in your party, then you can get MP pretty fast from him.

The cleric also has an absolute damage nuke. The two classes are closely related.

OK yeah thanks. Also as a question out of curiousity what is the Euro cap atm?

Same as the rest of KSRO, 90. But the gear only goes to 6th degree.

[IguanaRampage]

The bard giveth and taketh away.. lol A euro without a complete party is useless. So if there is a bard in your party, then you can get MP pretty fast from him.

The cleric also has an absolute damage nuke. The two classes are closely related.

OK yeah thanks. Also as a question out of curiousity what is the Euro cap atm?

Same as the rest of KSRO, 90. But the gear only goes to 6th degree.

omg I thought it was 60 . There goes the last chance of me ever making the cap lol. But at least the gear only goes to 6th degree that makes so that a lvl 60 isnt as bad compared to a lvl 70
Man it would take forever to lvl to 90

[inky]

I can't wait to try the katar-wielding middle-eastern characters.

Are they planning to make a country vs country war: China vs Europe vs West Asia (Mid East) ? iROSE used to do weekly massive faction wars.

[Juey]

An old post I found. Kinda funny how everyone thought chinese is going to pwn the Euros.

Any change in the opinion now that we actually got Euro update for a while?

[iGod]

Euro > China
And as higher caps open the difference will get bigger and bigger
> Euros own with 1 mastery, own even more with two, and chinese with a higher cap will just get more gimped(will have to delevel skills, masteries, lose important trees etc).

[Barotix]

this post made me lol

[WoLfFy]

stop the FOC_ing posts and see this video then start posting

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dsth2Yome3k

euro owns chinese in MOST things, but there autopot owns them so its like

euro's autpot > euro > chinese .... in GW between eur and chin, chin hav to kill the healers, then the chin nukers gotta work on ranging the tankers from a long distance, own the healers 1st then own ranged euro like xbow

[Barotix]

stop the FOC_ing posts and see this video then start posting

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dsth2Yome3k

euro owns chinese in MOST things, but there autopot owns them so its like

euro's autpot > euro > chinese .... in GW between eur and chin, chin hav to kill the healers, then the chin nukers gotta work on ranging the tankers from a long distance, own the healers 1st then own ranged euro like xbow

if you try 2 touch the healer, the rogues will scorn/ gross scorn you.
if you dont know what scorn is, then look it up

[tedtwilliger]

Who cares?

This game isnt a game based on pen and paper. You cant form out situations because there always is the human factor to involve in these kind of situations.

I want to make this clear and simple, NONE IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER!. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.

And who said it was euro vs chinese? no one.

Geez

[WoLfFy]

stop the FOC_ing posts and see this video then start posting

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dsth2Yome3k

euro owns chinese in MOST things, but there autopot owns them so its like

euro's autpot > euro > chinese .... in GW between eur and chin, chin hav to kill the healers, then the chin nukers gotta work on ranging the tankers from a long distance, own the healers 1st then own ranged euro like xbow

if you try 2 touch the healer, the rogues will scorn/ gross scorn you.
if you dont know what scorn is, then look it up

let them scorn me, like i said you take the healers they will get a hard time getting healed, eventually they will die, max hp they hav on pure str on lvl cap will be 17k hp or somwer near that, chinses can go up to 23k which are glaviers, ive seen lv 90s on ksro with 23k hp

[Jantje]

stop the FOC_ing posts and see this video then start posting

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dsth2Yome3k

euro owns chinese in MOST things, but there autopot owns them so its like

euro's autpot > euro > chinese .... in GW between eur and chin, chin hav to kill the healers, then the chin nukers gotta work on ranging the tankers from a long distance, own the healers 1st then own ranged euro like xbow

if you try 2 touch the healer, the rogues will scorn/ gross scorn you.
if you dont know what scorn is, then look it up

let them scron me, like i said you take the healers they will get a hard time getting healed, eventually they will die, max hp they hav on pure str on lvl cap will be 17k hp or somwer near that, chinses can go up to 23k which are glaviers, ive seen lv 90s on ksro with 23k hp

Look at tedtwilliger his post again

[WoLfFy]

Who cares?

This game isnt a game based on pen and paper. You cant form out situations because there always is the human factor to involve in these kind of situations.

I want to make this clear and simple, NONE IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER!. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.

And who said it was euro vs chinese? no one.

Geez

ty for your mature behaviour and i hope there are many who think like you in this world =P

[WoLfFy]

Who cares?

This game isnt a game based on pen and paper. You cant form out situations because there always is the human factor to involve in these kind of situations.

I want to make this clear and simple, NONE IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER!. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.

And who said it was euro vs chinese? no one.

Geez

we are sayin if and i was talkin about GWs ... i listed their weakness from my experience in ksro and csro

[tedtwilliger]

Who cares?

This game isnt a game based on pen and paper. You cant form out situations because there always is the human factor to involve in these kind of situations.

I want to make this clear and simple, NONE IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER!. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.

And who said it was euro vs chinese? no one.

Geez

we are sayin if and i was talkin about GWs ... i listed their weakness from my experience in ksro and csro

I was referring to the topic starter and the community in general. We have all these discussions about which is better, when people dont realize they each feed off each other. No single build is dominant in all situations. Bleh. This thread sucks.

[BuddahBless]

Group of 8 lvl 80 chinese run into :

Group of 8 lvl 80 Euros :

= Dead Euros


Take out the damage dealers, then cleric then the str based chars. It's so easy...I've seen it happen on Mars already. :o


-edit- Well we weren't lvl 80 but you get the point.