HYBRID GLAVIER... good choice!

[phoeniXofury]

Hey
been reading up on hybrid builds a bit, and i know that hybrids are some of the most controversial things in SRO.
i would like to ask about a hybrid glavie (glaive, to satisfy that guy that was like its a freaking glaive )... is it possible to plug any int points into glavie to give it a little more damage?
right now, im lvl 8, and all my points are in str (i have a lvl 8 SOM+3 glavie) and ill be lvling all the way to 16, which at that time, ill be doing some hard SP farming.

but until then, id like to ask about hybrids for glavies.
should i plug any points into int? will this be worse than a pure str glavie? would this be better in any way?

flaming welcome. thanks.

[Ice771x]

str hybrids are pretty much pointless builds imo. you should og pure and then just add whatever int you want with alchemy. if you go hybrid youll never be able to tank as well as a pure and the small increase in damage you get from the few int points wont do much.

[IguanaRampage]

most people will tell you to go pure str. After all, its tried and true, does well as a tanking char even if u use glaive, and the crit dmg is very high. Adding a bit more int you gain a little more damage (I'm fairly sure), but you lose hp and your critical damage is slightly less.
I'd stay pure str glaive, simply because I don't know about the other one much from personal experience and pvp, and although I've always wanted to try str hybrid spear I know I will never have the time for str builds. Though I believe Anh_Thu (not so sure but I think) and _SunTzu_ of Venice (_SunTzu_ = inactive, don't know about Anh_Thu) are str hybrids and they did very well. Anh_Thu was widely regarded as the best in the server and _SunTzu_ often managed to beat pure strs multiple lvls above him.
Leaning towards pure str but I'm not as radical about it as some people are. I personally would definitely try out a str hybrid to see what all the fuss is about, and if having good equips can make you be pretty good, but if you haven't tried any build yet or haven't dueled many pure strengths pure strength can definitely be a fun way to go

[XuChu]

most people will tell you to go pure str. After all, its tried and true, does well as a tanking char even if u use glaive, and the crit dmg is very high. Adding a bit more int you gain a little more damage (I'm fairly sure), but you lose hp and your critical damage is slightly less.
I'd stay pure str glaive, simply because I don't know about the other one much from personal experience and pvp, and although I've always wanted to try str hybrid spear I know I will never have the time for str builds. Though I believe Anh_Thu (not so sure but I think) and _SunTzu_ of Venice (_SunTzu_ = inactive, don't know about Anh_Thu) are str hybrids and they did very well. Anh_Thu was widely regarded as the best in the server and _SunTzu_ often managed to beat pure strs multiple lvls above him.
Leaning towards pure str but I'm not as radical about it as some people are. I personally would definitely try out a str hybrid to see what all the fuss is about, and if having good equips can make you be pretty good, but if you haven't tried any build yet or haven't dueled many pure strengths pure strength can definitely be a fun way to go

AnhThu= pure str glaiver and only regarded best cuz of full sos armour+7 with maxed blues and %'s and sos +7 glaive 11crit with all good stats etc etc.

_SunTzu_ is str hybrid i think and he was good around 52 when he first got his sos 52 spear.You may think iam bias or w.e but i think he isnt so strong as he lost multiple times at lvl 42vs 42 against an ice str bow 1on1 face 2 face.

i personally dun c point of being str hyb. as it does not hit alot more but u do lose ALOT of hp compare 2 full str.

[IguanaRampage]

most people will tell you to go pure str. After all, its tried and true, does well as a tanking char even if u use glaive, and the crit dmg is very high. Adding a bit more int you gain a little more damage (I'm fairly sure), but you lose hp and your critical damage is slightly less.
I'd stay pure str glaive, simply because I don't know about the other one much from personal experience and pvp, and although I've always wanted to try str hybrid spear I know I will never have the time for str builds. Though I believe Anh_Thu (not so sure but I think) and _SunTzu_ of Venice (_SunTzu_ = inactive, don't know about Anh_Thu) are str hybrids and they did very well. Anh_Thu was widely regarded as the best in the server and _SunTzu_ often managed to beat pure strs multiple lvls above him.
Leaning towards pure str but I'm not as radical about it as some people are. I personally would definitely try out a str hybrid to see what all the fuss is about, and if having good equips can make you be pretty good, but if you haven't tried any build yet or haven't dueled many pure strengths pure strength can definitely be a fun way to go

AnhThu= pure str glaiver and only regarded best cuz of full sos armour+7 with maxed blues and %'s and sos +7 glaive 11crit with all good stats etc etc.

_SunTzu_ is str hybrid i think and he was good around 52 when he first got his sos 52 spear.You may think iam bias or w.e but i think he isnt so strong as he lost multiple times at lvl 42vs 42 against an ice str bow 1on1 face 2 face.

i personally dun c point of being str hyb. as it does not hit alot more but u do lose ALOT of hp compare 2 full str.

AT is pure str glaive? Alright my bad I was told otherwise. I do think you are biased but on the other hand I am too... I saw him beat a 64 at 60 with a +5 (or maybe +6 not sure) lvl 60 spear

[XuChu]

most people will tell you to go pure str. After all, its tried and true, does well as a tanking char even if u use glaive, and the crit dmg is very high. Adding a bit more int you gain a little more damage (I'm fairly sure), but you lose hp and your critical damage is slightly less.
I'd stay pure str glaive, simply because I don't know about the other one much from personal experience and pvp, and although I've always wanted to try str hybrid spear I know I will never have the time for str builds. Though I believe Anh_Thu (not so sure but I think) and _SunTzu_ of Venice (_SunTzu_ = inactive, don't know about Anh_Thu) are str hybrids and they did very well. Anh_Thu was widely regarded as the best in the server and _SunTzu_ often managed to beat pure strs multiple lvls above him.
Leaning towards pure str but I'm not as radical about it as some people are. I personally would definitely try out a str hybrid to see what all the fuss is about, and if having good equips can make you be pretty good, but if you haven't tried any build yet or haven't dueled many pure strengths pure strength can definitely be a fun way to go

AnhThu= pure str glaiver and only regarded best cuz of full sos armour+7 with maxed blues and %'s and sos +7 glaive 11crit with all good stats etc etc.

_SunTzu_ is str hybrid i think and he was good around 52 when he first got his sos 52 spear.You may think iam bias or w.e but i think he isnt so strong as he lost multiple times at lvl 42vs 42 against an ice str bow 1on1 face 2 face.

i personally dun c point of being str hyb. as it does not hit alot more but u do lose ALOT of hp compare 2 full str.

AT is pure str glaive? Alright my bad I was told otherwise. I do think you are biased but on the other hand I am too... I saw him beat a 64 at 60 with a +5 (or maybe +6 not sure) lvl 60 spear

was the other person a full int nuker?

[Nantosh]

um...just saying, im lvl 37 (so i might turn out CRA.P char.) but I beat EVERYONE my lvl, and almost all +1 or 2 above me, and i dont have sos....my char is pure str, but up to lvl 20 or so, i was doing 2:1 str:int, and im ice (i know ice is bad, im changing soon). so?what about that?

[CodeOfSilence]

hybrids, no matter what, str or int. are tough to manage! its a real challenge, if you want to try it out, prepare to suffer in some quests and do very well on other quests. its an interesting build and whatever the result, you will learn a lot by doing it. im lvl 38 right now and ive going towards int hybrid and so far it has been cool, it has its fun times and it has its bad times. but overall its a tough build that needs a lot of SP farming, since you will need skills from most of the mastery trees and the choices are tough.

[XuChu]

um...just saying, im lvl 37 (so i might turn out CRA.P char.) but I beat EVERYONE my lvl, and almost all +1 or 2 above me, and i dont have sos....my char is pure str, but up to lvl 20 or so, i was doing 2:1 str:int, and im ice (i know ice is bad, im changing soon). so?what about that?

there ur ice, u just gave ur secret away.Ice is the best before late 4X when its damage have a huge difference compare 2 fire/thunder at 37 u still wont feel the damage difference that greatly,and almost no one has ice immunity.Some people dun even use universals at that time.

[Nuklear]

flaming welcome. thanks.

This goes in the Char Skills section you idiot.

[Sc(+)pE16]

I am a str heavy hybrid glaiver......... It is fun to be until yesterday . I got rocked by a bow person 3 levels ahead of me.... I need to start sp farming.

[Animosity]

I am a 2:1 str hybrid. I use a glaive(56+3) and am completely satisfied with the damage dealt to monsters and in pvp. I am lvl 57 and against the penons or sonars/planars on the ice I can do around 1000-1500 more damage than a pure str with a 56+3 glaive.(using soulspeartruth) In Pvp I wear garments and can take 62 pure int 7 times out of ten and a pure str 57 about 50/50. At this point I don't see that big of a downside. I have over 8000hp and 5000mp. Maybe in the later lvls there will be one but at 57 I don't have any complaints about a 2:1 str hybrid. Also on aege a lvl 70, Wind, is a 2:1 str hybrid and they can take anyone and pretty much tank isy.

[arretjescake]

yes and no.
A pure str does great damage, the crits are the ones that count. A hybrid will crit less harder and will probably do some higher damage with imbue.

If you're pure str and add int ( I'm talking about lv 70, not sure what happens in lower levels) you will get much more damage. It really matters. The int stones work so much better than the str stones for more damage, so a part of higher dmg can be true, but I'm not sure.

This could also be because you're capped at 105% phys balance, then you could start adding int without losing that phys balance due to overstatted balance ( example, my balance used to be 112% now it's 105 and it doesn't matter if I add 40 int, it will still stay at 105 cause actually I had 112%)

So I'm not sure if it would make a great build, I don't really think so tbh. The crits matter the most.

[[SD]Master_Wong]

lie

im 2:1 hybrid int with spear and i crit harder then a str with imbue (not with out i dont think)

over all my attacks and tanking abilitys make me the perfect grinder (my oppinion)

also means i can beat pure str and int with my power and extra health

[hellsharpt]

correct me if i'm wrong but in the highest damage contest (sticky) levels 5x and 6x hybrids (of any kind) did the least damage. The only way to judge between 2 characters or builds is to hit the same target, like a manyang.

In PVP there are way too many variables, level differences, buffs, gear and weapon differences.

To my knowledge there aren't alot of str hybrids out there, most quit fairly quickly, they claim becasue of the low damage output. If you are happy with yours that's great. Its one build I don't think I'll ever try.

[[SD]Master_Wong]

^^to be fair im int hybrid but it has shown great expectation with low or no + gears

i should go get me a mangyang

[inflajmer]

yO !

Im a lvl 70 Str Hybrid with about 307 in Str and 185 Int stats. Fully pimped.
Im in the middle of sp farming now so im curious on how great dmg i wil ldeal into pure str at a later point when fully farmed.

Im affraid the char will suck but we will just wait and see. If it does, then im leveling up a new char, this time a Pure Str.
One things for sure, the phys/mag defenses are both lower when you go hybrid.

I will post a new thread about my thoughts of my char when fully farmed.

[hellsharpt]

how can you have no idea what kind of damage you will do if you are already level 70?

Anyone else find the post.. odd.

[inflajmer]

how can you have no idea what kind of damage you will do if you are already level 70?

Anyone else find the post.. odd.

Lol, dude, ok, forgot to say my masteries down 9lvl gap.

[Pred]

What in the world are you guys killing? lol
STR- Hybrid Glaiver is one of the weakest builds for pvp and especially War (especially if your wearing garmet!)
You say that your killing Pure STR... what Glaiver? Definatly it aint a blader!
Your comparing damage, but you are not comparing defence. Id like to see you in a Job war or Guild War... you'll be like Tofu.

the key to PvP = MHP, Defence, Damage.

[BoyrIIng]

i agree there

[Stress]

Hibrid Glavie is useless. I think best build is pure str. Glavie and fire. in this case a garment would be best. You should end up at lvl 20 with 1300 Hp and 450 mana which is more than enough witha garment

[IguanaRampage]

What in the world are you guys killing? lol
STR- Hybrid Glaiver is one of the weakest builds for pvp and especially War (especially if your wearing garmet!)
You say that your killing Pure STR... what Glaiver? Definatly it aint a blader!
Your comparing damage, but you are not comparing defence. Id like to see you in a Job war or Guild War... you'll be like Tofu.

the key to PvP = MHP, Defence, Damage.

so therefore, bladers would be horrible at both 1v1 and job wars because everyone except a pure int nuker can tank them? Would pure int be horrible at job wars because all it takes is two SSS and theyre dead? You can't be the best at everything, but you can be the best at one thing or you can go for something in between. Something that isn't quite as dependent on "does my opponent have a shield with 21 block and 100 crit blue stat" "I hope that archer doesnt have a 100 BR bow or I'm doomed" etc. It's just a different way to play a game.

[oktaytheazer]

yup no hydrid glaives u should b 2int:1str hydrid spear.

[Skitsefrenik]

As long as you can crit, it's all good for a str.

[Animosity]

What in the world are you guys killing? lol
STR- Hybrid Glaiver is one of the weakest builds for pvp and especially War (especially if your wearing garmet!)
You say that your killing Pure STR... what Glaiver? Definatly it aint a blader!
Your comparing damage, but you are not comparing defence. Id like to see you in a Job war or Guild War... you'll be like Tofu.

the key to PvP = MHP, Defence, Damage.

Well I am a 57 2-1 str hybrid, I use glaive or spear. I wear garment and I could kill a 63 nuker wearing protector 7 times out of 10. I killed a 65 nuker wearing protector 3 times out of 10. I killed a 58 pure wearing garment str 5 times out of ten. I haven't faced other hybrids but think I can do well against them.

[Dempster]

What in the world are you guys killing? lol
STR- Hybrid Glaiver is one of the weakest builds for pvp and especially War (especially if your wearing garmet!)
You say that your killing Pure STR... what Glaiver? Definatly it aint a blader!
Your comparing damage, but you are not comparing defence. Id like to see you in a Job war or Guild War... you'll be like Tofu.

the key to PvP = MHP, Defence, Damage.

Amen.

I'm pure str glaive at lvl 61 now, and i very very rarely get killed by anyone wearing anything less than a 64 weapon, but hell when you run into a hybrid... its so much fun cause they die in practically one good crit, and never really take your hp down any.

Soul spear soul ftw!

[Ja]

i just want to put some of my thoughts down here..

im a lvl 70 part hybrid glaive.. my build ratio turning out to be around 2.68:1. I also now wear a CLEAN set of garments, after selling my PIMPED out armor set for gear for my new character. I just have to say, that str hybrids arent as weak as you think they are. On my armor i had enough str to make up for what i was missing and could easily tank through whatever situation i had come across. Even in my garments Ja still stood at the end of large scale pvp's. I've only run into problems with sos wielders/wearers since i never had the equipment to match. No i cant kill a blader with similar equipment to mine, but he can't kill me either.

I Once fought a 2:1 str hybrid and watched him fight a fellow pure str glaiver. Both fights ended up to be pot battles, since unless you really have a good weapon, str killing a player with high hp is going to be difficult(unless they have absolutely shitty gear of course). A plus side of str hybrid builds is that you can use a spear since spears generally have a higher crit yet deal the same damage as if the hybrid were using a glaive.

and i have to add..

unfortunately gear plays a higher role in who wins at pvp. It isnt a sole factor, but you'd have to agree that theres a huge difference between tanking someone with a +3 blade and someone with an sos +3 blade

[Dempster]

i just want to put some of my thoughts down here..

im a lvl 70 part hybrid glaive.. my build ratio turning out to be around 2.68:1. I also now wear a CLEAN set of garments, after selling my PIMPED out armor set for gear for my new character. I just have to say, that str hybrids arent as weak as you think they are. On my armor i had enough str to make up for what i was missing and could easily tank through whatever situation i had come across. Even in my garments Ja still stood at the end of large scale pvp's. I've only run into problems with sos wielders/wearers since i never had the equipment to match. No i cant kill a blader with similar equipment to mine, but he can't kill me either.

I Once fought a 2:1 str hybrid and watched him fight a fellow pure str glaiver. Both fights ended up to be pot battles, since unless you really have a good weapon, str killing a player with high hp is going to be difficult(unless they have absolutely shitty gear of course). A plus side of str hybrid builds is that you can use a spear since spears generally have a higher crit yet deal the same damage as if the hybrid were using a glaive.

and i have to add..

unfortunately gear plays a higher role in who wins at pvp. It isnt a sole factor, but you'd have to agree that theres a huge difference between tanking someone with a +3 blade and someone with an sos +3 blade

Ehn. Gear does not make up for anything, in comparing a pure str against a hybrid you have to realize they both can potentially wear the same gear, so how does your 30 str on your gear make up for an ything when the other guys got that + more hp than you (base) ?, although yes sos weapons do make a huge difference, especially a nice +7 sos 64 blade

[Dempster]

on another note - I feel the need to mention that i think anyone who wears a 64 SPEAR on a str char should just stop playing the game. give up right now!, a 64+3 spear is maybe 10 damage better than a 60 glaive.. in phys damage... I don't care if the crit is 17! its a huge disadvantage to you, to be using something thats equal to a weapon, an entire degree lower..