Each + on a weapon Adds 18 more damage

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:27 am

^__^

lol, after failing to +4 my crit 10 64 blade about 9 times, ive finally decided to have a look at how much more damage you get for each +, and its 18 :shock:

+4 please

Lemon · Post by **Lemon** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:29 am

have you tried it on other weapons? on other levels? different base dmg%?

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:33 am

no :0 only on a 21% phy damage blade :/

anyone else want to experiment?

am guessing it should be the same, otherwise everyone would up the % then + :?:

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:36 am

Lance wrote:no :0 only on a 21% phy damage blade :/

anyone else want to experiment?

I find it quite ignorant to believe that if you +5'd a lvl 1 blade, it'd multiply in damage by leaps and bounds.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:38 am

so how does the + calculate how much damage it adds?

and + only affects the mag/phy damage correct?

HuyFong · Post by **HuyFong** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:39 am

Maybe on the 7th degree blade

but on 8th degre it's definitely different. My SoS glavie (42%) phys. damage was 910 @ +7 and 956 @ +9 so that's a 46 points difference in damage and so each + was adding 23 points

My speculation is that it is different per level and per (%). Example: 7th degree would be 18 points but 8th degree would be 23 points. Those points are consistant but also differs by the % next to the physical damage. If you have a 42% blade it'll increase by more points then a 0%

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:41 am

it was a 64 blade, not sos

am gonna try +4 it again, lol, il take pics this time XD

am getting so poor now, lucky powder sux the life out of you T_T

here you go, 3 more elixers, and its +1 still...

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:25 am

Lance wrote:it was a 64 blade, not sos

am gonna try +4 it again, lol, il take pics this time XD

am getting so poor now, lucky powder sux the life out of you T_T

here you go, 3 more elixers, and its +1 still...

Here's how it works. I will use numbers because its easier to comprehend than my broken english.

Blade +0=800 physical.
Blade +1=815 physical.

Blade +2=829 physical.

Fail at +3, goes back to +0.

Blade +0=800 physical.
Blade +1=815 physical.
Blade +2=829 physical.

You will get a random boost to damage on your first try to +1, and then if you fail, your +1 will STILL add the same damage if you re-apply it.

c0kane · Post by **c0kane** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:18 am

@ShizKnight: Is that verified?

Draquish · Post by **Draquish** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:24 am

Dont turn an un-complicated game more complicated

Str-Int
Nukes-Tanks-Hybrids
Armour-Garms-Prots

bam, all u need right thr

kenbong · Post by **kenbong** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:20 am

Lance wrote:^__^

lol, after failing to +4 my crit 10 64 blade about 9 times, ive finally decided to have a look at how much more damage you get for each +, and its 18

+4 please

If you were in my server,i would pleased to help you +4 on it..
Actually +4 is not that difficult...+7 is the most difficult part..

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:09 pm

c0kane wrote:@ShizKnight: Is that verified?

The specific numbers aren't verified, but the thing about reapplying +s is.

Drew_Benton · Post by **Drew_Benton** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:22 pm

No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:58 pm

Drew_Benton wrote:No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!

that only added 12?

so am guessing the phy reinforce or the degre of the item has something to do with it then?

robustica · Post by **robustica** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:34 pm

phys and magical reinforce are the factors for this in plussing weapons

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:49 pm

i doubt it, otherwise everyone would up their reinforcements before adding the +

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:22 pm

Reinforcements =/= more + damage to alchemy.

Its. A. Random. Number. People have posted this before.

Passion · Post by **Passion** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:20 pm

alchemy is based on diminishing returns , i cant be botherd to explain what that means but google is your friend.

khang · Post by **khang** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:58 am

i think its fair to say that all wep has a different effect toward thier damage

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:16 am

I think it's fair to say who gives a shit.

Just look for good % and + it. Fair Play

Drew_Benton · Post by **Drew_Benton** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:18 am

Passion wrote:alchemy is based on diminishing returns , i cant be botherd to explain what that means but google is your friend.

That's something I try to tell everyone I know that asks for alchemy help. +3 is not significantly better than +2! If only people would understand that. Espeically when you can't afford to get the weapon back to +2 if it fails.

Nantosh · Post by **Nantosh** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:04 am

Maybe its just me but i find that the percent kinda matters ALOT when your comparing, 'cause having a +3 with 70% is like having a +4 and a half, i think anyways. well?

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:51 pm

Drew_Benton wrote:No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!

k, ive found out

8th degree + 18 damage for each +
7th degree + 15 damage for each +
6th degree + 12 damage for each +

go test it yourself if you dont believe me

Nantosh wrote:Maybe its just me but i find that the percent kinda matters ALOT when your comparing, 'cause having a +3 with 70% is like having a +4 and a half, i think anyways. well?

am not talking about the total damage, am talking about how much damage it ADDS for each '+'

[SD]Kratos · Post by **[SD]Kratos** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:59 pm

Lance, that is off-topic, but whatever.

You got 120K SP? please tell me it is photoshopped :shock:

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:04 pm

-)G(-Kratos wrote:Lance, that is off-topic, but whatever.

You got 120K SP? please tell me it is photoshopped

how is that off topic?!?! so if i +9 my sos 52 blade, it would come to 574 damage :love:

no, i only got 71 now

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:22 pm

Lance wrote:
Drew_Benton wrote:No, it does not:

And no, those aren't mine, I just conviently found them when I saw this thread!

k, ive found out

8th degree + 18 damage for each +
7th degree + 15 damage for each +
6th degree + 12 damage for each +

go test it yourself if you dont believe me

Nantosh wrote:Maybe its just me but i find that the percent kinda matters ALOT when your comparing, 'cause having a +3 with 70% is like having a +4 and a half, i think anyways. well?

am not talking about the total damage, am talking about how much damage it ADDS for each '+'

... So. So. Ignorant.

/faceinpalm.

Someone go test it and prove him wrong.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:20 pm

everyone knows am right

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