A whole new type of discrimination emerging?
If I think somebody is a bot - especially a gold bot I don't attack them. I KS them. If they slide away from the mob then I just keep following and KSing. If they yell I say sorry and move on. If they nothing I just stay there and compete for the kills.
Gave in to the force of rationallity. Uninstalled this bot infested game and never looked back.
Now I just play in the OTL and my old guild forum.
Now I just play in the OTL and my old guild forum.
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Jelly_Fish
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lol... that "be social" thing is crap
when I grind... I grind to lvl not chit chat with the natives
even if someone does talk to me... I cant see it... rarely is my chat box even open, and when it is... I have a pet monkey that picks up so much garbage that I leave his window open and tucked into the bottom left corner... my inventory is open also.. usually mushed into the right side under the mini map, that way I can xfer usable items to my inventory fast and save space in the monkey. I get accused of botting all the time cos "I dont talk"... honestly... I dont wanna talk, I wanna kill and lvl... when I wanna talk you will not find me in the caves or any other high spawn area
does that make me a bot?
I use repeative skills.. 3-4 of them... in the same order... over and over again
I dont respond to ppl talking to me... most of the time I never even know I was spoken too
and like someone else said above me... I have the next mob targeted before the current mob is dead
when I grind... I grind to lvl not chit chat with the natives
even if someone does talk to me... I cant see it... rarely is my chat box even open, and when it is... I have a pet monkey that picks up so much garbage that I leave his window open and tucked into the bottom left corner... my inventory is open also.. usually mushed into the right side under the mini map, that way I can xfer usable items to my inventory fast and save space in the monkey. I get accused of botting all the time cos "I dont talk"... honestly... I dont wanna talk, I wanna kill and lvl... when I wanna talk you will not find me in the caves or any other high spawn area
does that make me a bot?
I use repeative skills.. 3-4 of them... in the same order... over and over again
I dont respond to ppl talking to me... most of the time I never even know I was spoken too
and like someone else said above me... I have the next mob targeted before the current mob is dead
Anymore I can spot a bot pretty easy. If someone in the union is suspected of botting they drag me out there to verify. I mean as if not replying was not a huge sign. 
Kind of the union bot-meter. I have gotten accused of being a bot myself. Because I tend to use the same attacks and my imbues go like clockwork. But that is because of my fighting style etc. I get a rythm down and stick to it constantly mashing the imbue button so it does not go out while I am fighting. And because of that they act like I am a bot. I have had some even come up and try to KS me on giants. What really convinces them I am not a bot is when I stop attacking the giant and go after them. I have died a few times doing it. And murdered one or two other times. But those same ppl I see now. Hehe they don't do that any more.
But if someone is not ksing or attacking me I just tend to ignore them. Just because you talk does not mean you are not botting. I have talked to several botters while they were botting. Many admitted it since things are so bad that they hardly have to worry about getting caught.
If you don't actually bot I can't see how you should have any fear of getting banned. With how cautious joymax seems to be about banning botters I am sure they don't just ban you site unseen on reports alone. Cause if that was the case. I have reported almost whole guilds with none of them getting banned. And they were bots. No false positives.
Just out of curiosity what criteria or tells do you all look for to detect a bot?
these are mine:
Gold bots
1. they always get to their spots taking similar paths all ways making regular stops at waypoints.
2. they have random mostly consonant names.
3. they don't use any skills other than self breathe heal. And no imbue.
4. they tend to "slide" back and forth from the monster they are attacking.
5. Obsticle humping.
6. Inhuman reaction time targeting a new mob as you attack the one they were after.
Lvl bots
1. They also get to their spots taking mostly the same paths stopping regularly at waypoints.
2. They tend to have almost instant imbue but more telling almost instant buff. Imbue is easy. But most tend to have buffs on another bar etc so they tend to take time to reapply.
3. The ubiquitous obstacle humping.
4. The inhuman reaction time re-targeting on another mob as you attack their selected.
5. Going zerk while traveling to grind location when 3 mobs agro them but not stopping to attack the mobs.
6. Chasing after mobs imbuing but not attacking due to a broken weapon for hours on end. Dying only to come back and do it again.
7. Attacking mobs with a weapon that is a higher lvl than they are (due to dying and delvling) and dying only to come back and do it again.
8. They tend to be in areas grinding green or even blue mobs one at a time. Not power grinding like some do.
I think those are the major tells. But I am always ready to learn new ones.
One of the best spots to bot spot is the south entrance to karakoram since it is the shortest path to the shades and yeti it is the most travled path by 50+ bots. Also since it winds so much and is so narrow all the bot paths converge in that spot to one path. So they are really easy to see. they get stuck alot along the side of the hill they cut it so close. As well as making their regular way point stops.
Kind of the union bot-meter. I have gotten accused of being a bot myself. Because I tend to use the same attacks and my imbues go like clockwork. But that is because of my fighting style etc. I get a rythm down and stick to it constantly mashing the imbue button so it does not go out while I am fighting. And because of that they act like I am a bot. I have had some even come up and try to KS me on giants. What really convinces them I am not a bot is when I stop attacking the giant and go after them. I have died a few times doing it. And murdered one or two other times. But those same ppl I see now. Hehe they don't do that any more.
But if someone is not ksing or attacking me I just tend to ignore them. Just because you talk does not mean you are not botting. I have talked to several botters while they were botting. Many admitted it since things are so bad that they hardly have to worry about getting caught.
If you don't actually bot I can't see how you should have any fear of getting banned. With how cautious joymax seems to be about banning botters I am sure they don't just ban you site unseen on reports alone. Cause if that was the case. I have reported almost whole guilds with none of them getting banned. And they were bots. No false positives.
Just out of curiosity what criteria or tells do you all look for to detect a bot?
these are mine:
Gold bots
1. they always get to their spots taking similar paths all ways making regular stops at waypoints.
2. they have random mostly consonant names.
3. they don't use any skills other than self breathe heal. And no imbue.
4. they tend to "slide" back and forth from the monster they are attacking.
5. Obsticle humping.
6. Inhuman reaction time targeting a new mob as you attack the one they were after.
Lvl bots
1. They also get to their spots taking mostly the same paths stopping regularly at waypoints.
2. They tend to have almost instant imbue but more telling almost instant buff. Imbue is easy. But most tend to have buffs on another bar etc so they tend to take time to reapply.
3. The ubiquitous obstacle humping.
4. The inhuman reaction time re-targeting on another mob as you attack their selected.
5. Going zerk while traveling to grind location when 3 mobs agro them but not stopping to attack the mobs.
6. Chasing after mobs imbuing but not attacking due to a broken weapon for hours on end. Dying only to come back and do it again.
7. Attacking mobs with a weapon that is a higher lvl than they are (due to dying and delvling) and dying only to come back and do it again.
8. They tend to be in areas grinding green or even blue mobs one at a time. Not power grinding like some do.
I think those are the major tells. But I am always ready to learn new ones.
One of the best spots to bot spot is the south entrance to karakoram since it is the shortest path to the shades and yeti it is the most travled path by 50+ bots. Also since it winds so much and is so narrow all the bot paths converge in that spot to one path. So they are really easy to see. they get stuck alot along the side of the hill they cut it so close. As well as making their regular way point stops.
senapanaga wrote:I think thekwong, or pinky as i like to call him, is trying to say that if someone tried attacking a botter in a cape then they could "Ressurect at this point" like in a cape fight. if you die. you get right back up.
what he doesnt realize is that getting killed by someone not in a cape counts as dying like normal. Meaning that pinky here has no idea what he's talking about, and probably thought some guy who sucks at grinding and happened to be wearing a cape was a botter.
(Sorry pink, much love. Much love.. oh and come play rome more often plese haha)
o_o didn't know that... thats odd, all the botters that ive seen recently have had capes on. =X i dont murder people... maybe the guy i saw dead was killed by another caper
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ill get on once the event happens, hw > me!
started playing again... yet again! omg! - on rome
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ThunderRawr
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Megalomaniac
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Megalomaniac wrote:Yay for people who ress old threads
And yea i grind like a bot alot of times >_< Aint my fault i grind fast! :O
Always runing around me trying to KS me and shit lol too bad i KS back! xD
That's the best tip i can give :p
When ppl invade your private area and try to KS you away, just stfu and KSKSKSKS all the time, in the end the will "see you are a bot" and realise there is no point having a KS fight since you arent even there, so they simply walk away ^_^
And btw i do realise there's no such thing as "ones own exp area", but seriously if people find it rude being KSed, why wouldnt it be rude when someone starts killing mobs in a small area where u kill faster than mobs reappear :o
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1337 of 1337 warriors too 
Ryoko wrote:Woa woa wait.
Your a pure STR fire glaive and your concerned about 'discimination' of your build being bot?
Get a grip man - you ever try being a GUILDLESS NUKER on the ice in Karokaram? LOL
Anyhow.
Hmm play style. I usually talk to the people in the room. Unless im talking to someone else privately.
Social bee.
I cant grind without having a convo with someone it's too boring ... ugh
7x Glaiver | 5x Blader | 3x Warrior/Cleric
(retired from sro)
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