A whole new type of discrimination emerging?

ThunderRawr · Post by **ThunderRawr** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:15 am

I gave up on my hybrid archer character, and currently building a Pure Str Fire Glavie character. I am strictly following the guide on this forum and the advices of my guild members. I have an SOS glavie, and wear armour.

I had something unpleasant happen to me over the past few days. When I was doing my Ghost soldier quest, a relatively high level character (I think his nick was something like XSpreadLoveX) started attacking me. He took off his weapon and started attacking me with his fists (I didn't know you can do that). At first I ran away from him, but he caught up and continued. So I started fighting back with hopes of killing him while he is purple. Stupid me. After a few hopeless blows I stopped and asked WTF was his problem.

He also stopped, apologized, and claimed that he was "trying something".

A couple of days after that, I was doing my quest with the Demon Horses. Another player, probably close to my level, started attacking me. This time I stopped right away and asked her what the hell was her problem.

She gave me a shocking reply. She claimed that she mistook me for a bot. I asked her why, and she explained that I matched the profile of a bot on all parameters. Even the way I moved around.

Grinding in that area, apparent pure str build, wearing armour, SOS glavie... and so on.

She said that she was going to report me when she would get the chance, but after I replied she claimed it was obivous that I am not a bot.

Nevertheless... WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? A whole new type of discrimination?!?!? Profiling?!?! This is insane! Did any one else have an experience like that?

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:20 am

Well lots of people accuse others of botting. Dont worry about it they are just jealous idiots. Even if she does report u i dont think they would care much because JM doesnt really ban bots and since u already proved that u arent a bot there is nothing to worry about.

Hesseth · Post by **Hesseth** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:22 am

No no.. I been called a bot too.. I grind hard and hit targets fast. I just stop and say WTF and I get the "im sorry". It depends on your play style me im very hard core and have my next mob on target before the one im on dies. So I can understand if it looks strange to someone else that im moving so fast.

Just stop and say something. Belive me we all hate bots and if we can trick one into murder.. We will.

I don't think anyone one here has at one point been called a bot no matter what class. You just picked the class that botters use the most.

Post by **Ryoko** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:25 am

Woa woa wait.

Your a pure STR fire glaive and your concerned about 'discimination' of your build being bot?

Get a grip man - you ever try being a GUILDLESS NUKER on the ice in Karokaram? LOL

Anyhow.

Hmm play style. I usually talk to the people in the room. Unless im talking to someone else privately.

Social bee.

ThunderRawr · Post by **ThunderRawr** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:34 am

As I said, it was given to me in crystal clear words; it was assumed that I was a bot because my build made it likely.

This worries me. What if the GMs won't give a rats ass and just ban me. What if some people on that recent ban list are actually innocent? And what if I end up on that list the next time.

Let me make this clear to you. It NEVER happened to me while I was playing with my hybrid archer... NEVER.

Hesseth · Post by **Hesseth** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:47 am

What if the GMs won't give a rats ass and just ban me

Now that would be something new!

ThunderRawr · Post by **ThunderRawr** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:50 am

Hesseth wrote:
What if the GMs won't give a rats ass and just ban me

Now that would be something new!

I appreciate your sense of humour (no seriously that's so funny), but... err... seriously (used again), I am worried a little, feel like going back to my hybrid archer.

Post by **Ryoko** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:01 am

Hesseth wrote:
What if the GMs won't give a rats ass and just ban me

Now that would be something new!

GM dont even ban real botters. lol.

dumBy · Post by **dumBy** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:03 am

Yeah.. it's depressing :cry:

Drew_Benton · Post by **Drew_Benton** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:53 am

Your post is exactly what I've been going though on Rome. I'm not a Str-Glaiver though, Ice-Bow for farming. Since I have a high crit sos bow and can take down mobs in less than 4 hits usually, I don't bother to use skills or imbue, arrows cost a lot less than mp potions do. I still use skills though for giants, champs, zerk so I maximize exp/sp. I've already have had 2 people cast protectors on me, to which I just laughed.

Then there's the "well you bot because yu moved to that enemy and didn't attack it when someone else did" and the "omg that was my mob, you ksing botter". Or, when my monkeys inv is full and I want to reach a certain % of level before town, I make it only pick up gold and get "oh monkeys not getting items, botter".

Then my favorite is giants because I pull off 500 anti-devil imbued crits and 1k when zerked so I can pretty much get any kill - me vs anyone zerked w/o sos weapons near my level, I win. usually get the F-off botter response to that one. Then I get spammed and close my chat window, just to miss another "if your not a bot respond pm"

Oh well! What's that saying go about if it looks like a duck, sounds like a suck, and feels like a duck? I swear I'm not emo Just ranting

kenbong · Post by **kenbong** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:03 am

if you are in Babel server, pm me in game...
I will kill that guy for you..

ThunderRawr · Post by **ThunderRawr** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:23 pm

Drew_Benton wrote:Your post is exactly what I've been going though on Rome. I'm not a Str-Glaiver though, Ice-Bow for farming. Since I have a high crit sos bow and can take down mobs in less than 4 hits usually, I don't bother to use skills or imbue, arrows cost a lot less than mp potions do. I still use skills though for giants, champs, zerk so I maximize exp/sp. I've already have had 2 people cast protectors on me, to which I just laughed.

Then there's the "well you bot because yu moved to that enemy and didn't attack it when someone else did" and the "omg that was my mob, you ksing botter". Or, when my monkeys inv is full and I want to reach a certain % of level before town, I make it only pick up gold and get "oh monkeys not getting items, botter".

Then my favorite is giants because I pull off 500 anti-devil imbued crits and 1k when zerked so I can pretty much get any kill - me vs anyone zerked w/o sos weapons near my level, I win. usually get the F-off botter response to that one. Then I get spammed and close my chat window, just to miss another "if your not a bot respond pm"

Oh well! What's that saying go about if it looks like a duck, sounds like a suck, and feels like a duck? I swear I'm not emo Just ranting

Not replying is the one thing I NEVER do. I always reply! That's the only way for me to prove that I am actually a human.

kenbong wrote:if you are in Babel server, pm me in game...
I will kill that guy for you..

Yes, I am on babel, and if someone pisses me off that badly... I just might do that

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:28 pm

ThunderRawr wrote:
Drew_Benton wrote:Your post is exactly what I've been going though on Rome. I'm not a Str-Glaiver though, Ice-Bow for farming. Since I have a high crit sos bow and can take down mobs in less than 4 hits usually, I don't bother to use skills or imbue, arrows cost a lot less than mp potions do. I still use skills though for giants, champs, zerk so I maximize exp/sp. I've already have had 2 people cast protectors on me, to which I just laughed.

Then there's the "well you bot because yu moved to that enemy and didn't attack it when someone else did" and the "omg that was my mob, you ksing botter". Or, when my monkeys inv is full and I want to reach a certain % of level before town, I make it only pick up gold and get "oh monkeys not getting items, botter".

Then my favorite is giants because I pull off 500 anti-devil imbued crits and 1k when zerked so I can pretty much get any kill - me vs anyone zerked w/o sos weapons near my level, I win. usually get the F-off botter response to that one. Then I get spammed and close my chat window, just to miss another "if your not a bot respond pm"

Oh well! What's that saying go about if it looks like a duck, sounds like a suck, and feels like a duck? I swear I'm not emo Just ranting

Not replying is the one thing I NEVER do. I always reply! That's the only way for me to prove that I am actually a human.

..... that. zerk their asses or turn off ur pots and make them murder.

Sendako · Post by **Sendako** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:02 pm

ThunderRawr wrote:
Hesseth wrote:
What if the GMs won't give a rats ass and just ban me

Now that would be something new!

I appreciate your sense of humour (no seriously that's so funny), but... err... seriously (used again), I am worried a little, feel like going back to my hybrid archer.

But I'm a hybrid archer and something like that just happened to me today. This guy kept following me around, and he tried to ks from me a few times. I got a little annoyed but I just continued on anyways (I just thought he didnt see me or something), but then he attacked me with his wolf. I pmmed him asking what the hell he was trying to do and he told me he thought I was a bot because I never sat down or stopped for a break!

GodsAngel · Post by **GodsAngel** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:22 pm

Profiling, maybe. I dun really fight like a bot, btw if you're a str glaiver a good one trains very differently from a bot.

Means the guy who hit yous a real douche bag who knows nothing or you need to play around and find a faster way of training.

^^ Im one of the people who punch random ppl, but I do it cuz I like playing tag.

amazn · Post by **amazn** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:25 pm

yea next time just pretend to be a botter and call a high lvl lol
i get it all the time, and i hate stuck up people who dont have the decency to say sorry

btw we bowers are a minority, we dont get profiled lol

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:26 pm

Ryoko wrote:Woa woa wait.

Your a pure STR fire glaive and your concerned about 'discimination' of your build being bot?

Get a grip man - you ever try being a GUILDLESS NUKER on the ice in Karokaram? LOL

Anyhow.

Hmm play style. I usually talk to the people in the room. Unless im talking to someone else privately.

Social bee.

hehe im a social bee too

. But i always talk in guild chat. Also they might think youre a gold farmer if ur not using imbue :shock:

PsYch008 · Post by **PsYch008** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:28 pm

Sendako wrote:
ThunderRawr wrote:
Hesseth wrote:
What if the GMs won't give a rats ass and just ban me

Now that would be something new!

I appreciate your sense of humour (no seriously that's so funny), but... err... seriously (used again), I am worried a little, feel like going back to my hybrid archer.

But I'm a hybrid archer and something like that just happened to me today. This guy kept following me around, and he tried to ks from me a few times. I got a little annoyed but I just continued on anyways (I just thought he didnt see me or something), but then he attacked me with his wolf. I pmmed him asking what the hell he was trying to do and he told me he thought I was a bot because I never sat down or stopped for a break!

omg what a noob, i NEVER stop when i grind. lol, i guess im a bot. hehe. :wink:

thekwong · Post by **thekwong** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:06 pm

its obvious why they think your a botter. your pure STR using a glaive and ARMOR. Many GOLD botters are near Demon horses. The most comon bot builds are STR Glaive, Armor. Why? Kills the fastest, and tanks the most hits from demon horses. A lot of botters equip and buy SOS glaives because they kill faster. If i saw your running around near demon horses, I'd label you a "bot" as well, although I wouldn't start attacking you. Many bots are starting to use capes so they dont die, and can "res" themself and not have to run back X_X

GodsAngel · Post by **GodsAngel** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:08 pm

Many bots are starting to use capes so they dont die, and can "res" themself and not have to run back X_X

lol? what does that mean?

ThunderRawr · Post by **ThunderRawr** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:26 am

thekwong wrote:its obvious why they think your a botter. your pure STR using a glaive and ARMOR. Many GOLD botters are near Demon horses. The most comon bot builds are STR Glaive, Armor. Why? Kills the fastest, and tanks the most hits from demon horses. A lot of botters equip and buy SOS glaives because they kill faster. If i saw your running around near demon horses, I'd label you a "bot" as well,

Well... see?!? There you have it folks. Profiling!

XxpeddyxX · Post by **XxpeddyxX** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:30 am

I can 2 hit robbers, 1 nuke + lion shout. I constantly do that.. and I get called a bot.

I can 3 hit small bunwangs, 1 nuke lion shout ghost spear. I constantly do that AND get called a bot... it's life =.=

DragonTalon · Post by **DragonTalon** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:36 am

If you're concerned about being on the block list then get this: half the people on the "block" list arent even "blocked"

Sroge · Post by **Sroge** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:33 am

I can feel your pain. Wait until you suit up for a job and kill a thief, or being a thief and kill a hunter, you will also get called a bot. Why? well they know it will probably piss you off. Heck i have been call a bot for buying an item in a stall before the guy next to me got it.

I believe this is one of the reasons joymax has to see a bot with their own eyes to ban them. If they didn't the server population would be about 60.

Not only that here is where the truth hurts. Alot of people will bot to 70 then go bot hunting themselfs. Turning them in and calling them out on forums and globals. Why? well less competition in the caves and jobs in their eyes.

I have finally broke 60 i started in april ( i believe ) and have used a gold ticket since 16, monkey for my items/gold and play at home and work. I find it strange that all of these people have passed me, not that it can't happen, but in all reality botting is an extreme problem. There are probably 80 times the level 70s then when i first started. That is the logical explanation.

Drew_Benton · Post by **Drew_Benton** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:13 am

Sroge wrote:I believe this is one of the reasons joymax has to see a bot with their own eyes to ban them. If they didn't the server population would be about 60.

Well said!

Hesseth · Post by **Hesseth** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:53 am

Sroge wrote:I can feel your pain. Wait until you suit up for a job and kill a thief, or being a thief and kill a hunter, you will also get called a bot. Why? well they know it will probably piss you off. Heck i have been call a bot for buying an item in a stall before the guy next to me got it.

I believe this is one of the reasons joymax has to see a bot with their own eyes to ban them. If they didn't the server population would be about 60.

Not only that here is where the truth hurts. Alot of people will bot to 70 then go bot hunting themselfs. Turning them in and calling them out on forums and globals. Why? well less competition in the caves and jobs in their eyes.

I have finally broke 60 i started in april ( i believe ) and have used a gold ticket since 16, monkey for my items/gold and play at home and work. I find it strange that all of these people have passed me, not that it can't happen, but in all reality botting is an extreme problem. There are probably 80 times the level 70s then when i first started. That is the logical explanation.

I still find botting so freaking funny. Why even play a game. If your not going to play it? The world has gotten so lazy that a person can't even enjoy the game? I have played every level so far and im up to 42. I find great self pride that im doing this on my own.

What pride does a person have in botting a toon to max level?

Hay just ask yourself this. Why am I playing? To prove im a bad ass? Really its just a game, its not real and your not going to be in the SRO hall of fame. Enjoy the game and if you hit max level at one point. Gratz to you.

At this point SRO knows about the botting problem.. Belive me they do. They don't care or don't want to invest time into stopping it. So my best advice to you is. Enjoy the game the best you can, or find a game that you will enjoy with out bots.

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:16 am

thekwong wrote:f i saw your running around near demon horses, I'd label you a "bot" as well, although I wouldn't start attacking you. Many bots are starting to use capes so they dont die, and can "res" themself and not have to run back X_X

and thats cuz the demon horses wear capes??

senapanaga · Post by **senapanaga** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:05 am

I think thekwong, or pinky as i like to call him, is trying to say that if someone tried attacking a botter in a cape then they could "Ressurect at this point" like in a cape fight. if you die. you get right back up.

what he doesnt realize is that getting killed by someone not in a cape counts as dying like normal. Meaning that pinky here has no idea what he's talking about, and probably thought some guy who sucks at grinding and happened to be wearing a cape was a botter.

(Sorry pink, much love. Much love.. oh and come play rome more often plese haha)

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:12 am

i only seen one botter ever grinding with a cape on , I guess they forget to remove it or just wanted to get ..... with. Needless to say 12+ deaths to mobs within an hour kinda sux for anyone..yah i was bored

Demarthl · Post by **Demarthl** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:12 am

"fit the profile of a bot"

yup, str glaive, armor or prot gear, go to the demon horse area and check out the people there, watch how the run about and stuff, notice they all have similar names, all stop attacking something you fight.

gold farmers.

the way pople hit you to find out is a sure bet to figure out if one is a bot, godl farming bots wont attack back, ever.

but if you turn around and start hitting them, or say "wtf" then they realise you're human.

just reply with "hey baby, save the tough love for later ya?

"

they'll soon run away xP