.dll and .exe files

The Invisible · Post by **The Invisible** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:51 pm

So anyone now what program can i use to view .dll and .exe files ?

omier · Post by **omier** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:45 pm

Ollydbg, PE explorer, XVI32(or any other hex editor). There are many.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:55 pm

View for what? Like you can understand binary code

The Invisible · Post by **The Invisible** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:10 pm

Sanktum wrote:Ollydbg, PE explorer, XVI32(or any other hex editor). There are many.

Thanks

NuclearSilo wrote:View for what? Like you can understand binary code

Does it really make a difference ?
I don't need it for anything advanced.
Anyway there is a program i downloaded that requires to open .dll file to work, do i really have to go in detail ? i will go if you want.

Dude don't judge me until you have talked to me.

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:39 am

yes, you have to go into detail =D

*BlackFox · Post by *BlackFox » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:18 am

penfold1992 wrote:yes, you have to go into detail =D

+1 Yeah.. Why not?

The Invisible · Post by **The Invisible** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:54 am

Ok fine, There is a game i play that the system depend mostly on gambling to get the good items (like magic pop), the rates aren't publicly released, so i used a program to export the details of the game (somewhat like pk2 in Sro), but it got exported in .dll format and my laptop can't read that, Google didn't really help me to find a program, so i thought someone here might know.

I took some coding lessons, maybe not enough to code myself but i can understand what is written.

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:38 pm

Those are not text file, those are compiled file into binary code. Even if you can unpack them, you can't understand it.

*BlackFox · Post by *BlackFox » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:15 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:those are compiled file into binary code

What is binary code, anyway?

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:46 pm

Even if you try and disassemble a .dll or an .exe and you actually learn to read machine code, anything you disassemble will probably be incomprehensible. There's no solution to your problem. You can make .exe's and .dll's out of code, but you can't make code out of binaries. At least not in a comprehensible way.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:00 pm

A decompiler won't give you the source, but it will give you an idea of how it works. Experts can use the decompiled code to create things such as hacks and cracks, but that takes a lot of time to learn and even more if you have no prior knowledge. IDA Pro is what I use. I like it.

The Invisible · Post by **The Invisible** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:31 pm

I asked around then used Notepad++ to open the files

I am not opening the system .dll files, i am opening games files, they aren't in 01 language or some advanced language.

It is pretty basic stuff

Ex:

Code: Select all

<element name="ingame_lucky_exp"          use_coin="1">
      <param_s32 name="time"            data="120"/>
      <param_s32 name="probability"         data="60"/>
      <param_s32 name="exp"               data="30"/>
      <param_s32 name="max"               data="300"/>   
      <param_string name="effect"            file="Resources/Effects/ADDTEAT.seq"/>         
      <param_string name="effect_dummy"      file="Bip01 Spine"/>

It is named lucky exp,costs 1 coin, time is 2 min, prob 60%, gives you 30 exp and the max you can get is 300 exp, most of the stuff is in this format.
Pretty read-able i might say

Consider it that i didn't ask for .dll but more like a pk2 viewer for another game.

*BlackFox wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:those are compiled file into binary code
What is binary code, anyway?

To overly simplify it, it's the language the CPU uses. It's like a switch. 1 is on, 0 is off. A collection of 1s and 0s make a character, and characters make code. This is an extremely simple explanation, but you can google it for a more complicated, realistic answer., it needs some experience, random people can't read that

*BlackFox · Post by *BlackFox » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:13 pm

The Invisible wrote:it needs some experience, random people can't read that

That's too bad, isn't it? lulz

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:30 am

i wonder if someone could unpack silkroad for the luck rates or anything related to alchemy... anything such as ...
lucky spots? (to prove this is wrong)
does your luck depend on the alch window when you open it?
is luck also something that is related to the item?
is there a luck increase or decrease at a certain level of +?
how do luck stones work and when do they have an effect?

woutR · Post by **woutR** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:17 am

Or you can just quit playing Farking silkroad

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:21 am

PK2 viewer is a program developed by SRO fan. You can't find a program that could work and open all games in the world. Even if you can open it, you can't read it in a readable format.
Wrong forum IMO. You need to ask in the forum of that game or some hack site.

@penfold1992: download the private server files, i'm sure the formula of alchemy is written somewhere.

Toshiharu · Post by **Toshiharu** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:57 pm

The Invisible wrote:consider it that i didn't ask for .dll but more like a pk2 viewer for another game.

Extractors are made specifically for that file type. If it's some unknown file type then you'll have to really look around as above said. Reason why pk2 extractor even exists is because DrewBenton was into reverse engineering

The answer you want might be stores on the server rather than your files. I don't even know why Magicpop has the odds in your files. It's not like it uses it anyhow.

The Invisible · Post by **The Invisible** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:32 pm

Toshiharu wrote:
The Invisible wrote:consider it that i didn't ask for .dll but more like a pk2 viewer for another game.

Extractors are made specifically for that file type. If it's some unknown file type then you'll have to really look around as above said. Reason why pk2 extractor even exists is because DrewBenton was into reverse engineering

The answer you want might be stores on the server rather than your files. I don't even know why Magicpop has the odds in your files. It's not like it uses it anyhow.

I said it as an example, i didn't find the exact rates in that game but it was worth a try, most of what i found was the exp required to level up, mp needed to do a move, etc
I already injected the files before i make this thread but i am not used to the laptop and found out it can't read those files, so i asked for a program to read it, Pc reads them normally that is what i was puzzled at.
Oh and i was only testing some stuff.

Dunno how this thread got this big.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:07 pm

FYI. A LOT of games actually keep a lot of Database Side data on hand that takes precedence over what is written in the files. It allows easier change to things without having to rewrite over code. The files might not have the actual % of the official servers. I'm not sure if Silkroad does that or not, but it's used for Hot Patching.

Point is, you might not be able to find what you are looking for just by searching through the files.

The Invisible · Post by **The Invisible** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:42 am

William-CL wrote:FYI. A LOT of games actually keep a lot of Database Side data on hand that takes precedence over what is written in the files. It allows easier change to things without having to rewrite over code. The files might not have the actual % of the official servers. I'm not sure if Silkroad does that or not, but it's used for Hot Patching.

Point is, you might not be able to find what you are looking for just by searching through the files.

Yeah it was just a try, i have lots of free time anyway.

penfold1992 · Post by **penfold1992** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:18 am

Toshiharu wrote: Reason why pk2 extractor even exists is because DrewBenton was into reverse engineering

im pretty sure drewbenton did not make the first pk2 extracting tool, im pretty sure he developed on an existing one before making his own as well.

@nuclear, do you know where i could download the files with an explanation of how to run it? im not looking at running a pvt server i just want an idea of how it works in order to find the part related to alch.

omier · Post by **omier** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:17 pm

penfold1992 wrote:
Toshiharu wrote: Reason why pk2 extractor even exists is because DrewBenton was into reverse engineering

im pretty sure drewbenton did not make the first pk2 extracting tool, im pretty sure he developed on an existing one before making his own as well.

@nuclear, do you know where i could download the files with an explanation of how to run it? im not looking at running a pvt server i just want an idea of how it works in order to find the part related to alch.

The first pk2 tool is the one made by JoyMax. It's very good for importing things, also let's you delete files. The best thing about it is probably that you don't need to extract stuff, you can open the files by double-clicking them in the tool, if you have the program for it(DDJ viewer for .ddj files, IrfanView for .dat launcher files, etc.), you can save the file after opening it, it has no extract feature though, which is a drawback because sometimes you need to extract as there is no program to open some files and you need to convert them. Some buttons are greyed out for me and 'Create New pk2' acts as 'Open pk2' for some reason. The missing extract feature is probably why Drew made an extractor.

About the alchemy rates, there is a guide here about the rates of lucky powders. It's the same for elixirs.
Those are the code names for the elixirs. Type A is not used in game, they are just called Elixirs. Type B ones are Intensifying Elixirs.

ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_ACCESSARY_A
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_ACCESSARY_B
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_ARMOR_A
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_ARMOR_B
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_SHIELD_A
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_SHIELD_B
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_WEAPON_A
ITEM_ETC_ARCHEMY_REINFORCE_RECIPE_WEAPON_B

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